Posted: 10/21/2015 7:16:32 PM EDT
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html
Maybe there is hope in the general? 
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| Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. |
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Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. Still far better than Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html |
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Still far better than Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html Quoted:
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Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. Still far better than Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html We should run a Rubio/Carson ticket with Fiorina getting the nod for a major political post. Vote against the Republicans and you are a racist, xenophobic, sexist. All we need is a transgender and it would be a done deal. The liberals wouldn't know what to do. |
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Polls mean nothing right now. Start paying attention to them late next summer. This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. |
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We should run a Rubio/Carson ticket with Fiorina getting the nod for a major political post. Vote against the Republicans and you are a racist, xenophobic, sexist. All we need is a transgender and it would be a done deal. The liberals wouldn't know what to do. Quoted:
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Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. Still far better than Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html We should run a Rubio/Carson ticket with Fiorina getting the nod for a major political post. Vote against the Republicans and you are a racist, xenophobic, sexist. All we need is a transgender and it would be a done deal. The liberals wouldn't know what to do. That would be a demographic killer, that's for sure. |
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This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. Quoted:
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Polls mean nothing right now. Start paying attention to them late next summer. This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets. 
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. |
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I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. Quoted:
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Polls mean nothing right now. Start paying attention to them late next summer. This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. That's not beyond the realm of possibility if Carson runs. He could easily take a quarter of the Black Vote. |
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I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. Quoted:
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Polls mean nothing right now. Start paying attention to them late next summer. This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. I like the way you think! 
According to this poll, 20% of black voters view Carson favorably. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NationalGOP_100615.pdf |
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On the contrary they determine who gets to be in debates and it encourages the low polled pol's to drop out Quoted:
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Polls mean nothing right now. On the contrary they determine who gets to be in debates and it encourages the low polled pol's to drop out Exactly. It also affects who donors will back with money. Billionaires aren't going to donate money to a Super PAC of someone who can't get above 2% in any poll. |
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html Maybe there is hope in the general? Where was Obama on this date in 2007? Yeah. A bit early to start hoping for anything. |
| Ps, the only one that I care about http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html |
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125% of Chicago citizens will be voting for the Hildebeast... Quoted:
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Until the election fraud... 125% of Chicago citizens will be voting for the Hildebeast... I have it on the highest authority the GOP will put into place methods to keep the dead from voting this go-round. 
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| I am voting for whoever gets the nomination. I thank the Democrats for making my decision so easy. Hillary is a communist criminal and Bernie is a communist lunatic. None of this "lesser of two evils" crap. It's more like a minor elbow itch Vs a festering cock lesion. |
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Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. Have you ever listened to him? I find him inspiring actually. He would crush Hillary. Everybody but the lowest of information voters senses pure fakery from Hitlery. |
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I am voting for whoever gets the nomination. I thank the Democrats for making my decision so easy. Hillary is a communist criminal and Bernie is a communist lunatic. None of this "lesser of two evils" crap. It's more like a minor elbow itch Vs a festering cock lesion. I laughed |
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That's not beyond the realm of possibility if Carson runs. He could easily take a quarter of the Black Vote. Quoted:
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Polls mean nothing right now. Start paying attention to them late next summer. This is true, however... The Democrats have a huge demographic problem. They need to pull large majorities of certain groups (young adults, especially young women, Hispanics, the poor), and supermajorities of African Americans in order compensate for the fact that they WILL lose the white vote by a lot, and they will lose the middle & upper classes. In 2012, Obama lost the vote of 'White' people by 20 points. And that's 72 percent of the electorate. But he won the 'Black' vote - 13 percent of the electorate - by 87 points (93-6), which made up for it. Carson would upend that Math. He should expect a solid campaign to destroy him if he stays near the top. The Dems CAN NOT win if they don't win the Black vote. They probably can't win if they don't carry it by 50 or more points. I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. That's not beyond the realm of possibility if Carson runs. He could easily take a quarter of the Black Vote. Ben Carson inspires people because he doesn't do the race baiter BS of appealing to victimization, and he truly rose out of poverty. His mere life example inspires hope for people who are looking for solutions, not excuses. The people that vote in the demographic described as "black" have a heck of a lot more to vote for than Obama, and they have no love for Hillary. Most sense that she is a racist. There are also a lot of people who don't vote that would vote for Carson because of his being genuine. |
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Ps, the only one that I care about http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html I'd vote for Cruz, but he's got a lot of ground to cover to close in on Hillary. |
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I am voting for whoever gets the nomination. I thank the Democrats for making my decision so easy. Hillary is a communist criminal and Bernie is a communist lunatic. None of this "lesser of two evils" crap. It's more like a minor elbow itch Vs a festering cock lesion. No shit. |
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Quoted: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html Maybe there is hope in the general? Once upon a time McCain polled over Clinton. It's way too early. |
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Quoted: I would vote for the dead bird in my fountain before I voted for Hildabeast Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does GD even like Carson? I would vote for the dead bird in my fountain before I voted for Hildabeast This X 1,000,000,000,000. Trump, Rubio, Carson, even Jeb! if he is the nominee. Hillary must NOT be allowed to enter the White House and take control of the US presidency. |
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I would vote for the dead bird in my fountain before I voted for Hildabeast Quoted:
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Does GD even like Carson? I would vote for the dead bird in my fountain before I voted for Hildabeast I'd vote for Hitler performing an abortion over Hillary. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Have you ever listened to him? I find him inspiring actually. He would crush Hillary. Everybody but the lowest of information voters senses pure fakery from Hitlery. Quoted: Quoted: Until the first debate when people realize he's a surgical savant with no policy substance whom listening to get a thought out feels like being stuck in traffic. Hillary will be wrong and shrill but she'll sound a lot more mentally sharp when juxtaposed with him on a stage. Have you ever listened to him? I find him inspiring actually. He would crush Hillary. Everybody but the lowest of information voters senses pure fakery from Hitlery. |
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Fiorina is also leading Clinton right now in the RCP average. All the Republican candidates are at least narrowing the gap.
Eight years of Obama fatigue are really going to hurt the Democrats. Plus, the Dems stepped in it when they started making gun control the primary issue. I think the GOP is going to win the popular vote. The electoral college system might make it close. The GOP must win Florida to have a chance. A black and/or a woman on the GOP ticket would make the Dem's heads explode. But a Hispanic from Florida would probably help the GOP more. |
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Fiorina is also leading Clinton right now in the RCP average. All the Republican candidates are at least narrowing the gap. Eight years of Obama fatigue are really going to hurt the Democrats. Plus, the Dems stepped in it when they started making gun control the primary issue. I think the GOP is going to win the popular vote. The electoral college system might make it close. The GOP must win Florida to have a chance. A black and/or a woman on the GOP ticket would make the Dem's heads explode. But a Hispanic from Florida would probably help the GOP more. FMR |
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I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. Run it again with Fl, Va, Oh, ....... NH and/or Wi, Iowa, Co Decrease D turnout by 5%. By 20%? in those States. And/Or increase R/NRA turnout by 5%. By 20% Historical average voter turnout in Presidential election years is 50-60%. The popular vote is meaningless except bragging rights by Democrat propagandists. Ca, Wa, Or and NY account for 4.75 million commies. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2012/popular-vote.html |
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Run it again with Fl, Va, Oh, ....... NH and/or Wi, Iowa, Co Decrease D turnout by 5%. By 20%? in those States. And/Or increase R/NRA turnout by 5%. By 20% Historical average voter turnout in Presidential election years is 50-60%. The popular vote is meaningless except bragging rights by Democrat propagandists. Ca, Wa, Or and NY account for 4.75 million commies. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2012/popular-vote.html Quoted:
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I just did some math. Gotta love spreadsheets.
Mittens lost in '12 by ~5M* votes. So in order to win the popular vote, he would have had to swing about 2.5M FBHO votes. That would mean that Mittens would have had to win 22% of the Black vote to win the popular. *-I used actuals in my spreadsheet, but I'm gonna round here. Run it again with Fl, Va, Oh, ....... NH and/or Wi, Iowa, Co Decrease D turnout by 5%. By 20%? in those States. And/Or increase R/NRA turnout by 5%. By 20% Historical average voter turnout in Presidential election years is 50-60%. The popular vote is meaningless except bragging rights by Democrat propagandists. Ca, Wa, Or and NY account for 4.75 million commies. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2012/popular-vote.html That's hard to do because I only have the demographic breakdowns for the popular vote. Anything I do would be a guesstimate. But you've got a very good point. You'd probably swing a bunch of southern blacks from states that would vote R anyway, and a bunch of Northern, Urban Blacks who can't swing their state. But you might swing OH, FL, PA... Just by cutting the Dem advantage in the inner cities. |
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html Maybe there is hope in the general? we'll have a war or some calamity that would prevent anything that is needed to be done from being done. |