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10/5/2015 6:07:41 PM EDT
First off let me state that I make no claim to any expertise dealing with computers. I use it to surf the interwebz, do my taxes, write a few letters, check & send emails, pay a few bills, buy tons of ammo and accessories and other shit my wife says I don't need, and play spider solitaire.

I can replace a hard drive, upgrade RAM, replace the hinges, download and install programs, etc & etc. Apparently I know just enough to really fuck one up.

With that being said, please post any replies in plain, simple English if at all possible. If you start talking like an IT guy, I will most likely not understand any of it and just look at the screen like a dog that hears a strange noise.

The problem:

The hard drive in my Dell laptop was starting to make funny noises, so I decided a preemptive strike was necessary. I purchased and installed a new hard drive, inserted the Windows 7 disc, and proceeded to install.

Everything went without a hitch. That is until I tried to run windows update.

It just sits there and says it is searching for updates, but never finds or downloads or installs any. It will do this for hours if I let it.

I have internet connection and can go to any website I want with no problem.

I tried it with antivirus on, antivirus off, and antivirus not even installed.

I downloaded and installed the latest/greatest windows update agent.

I downloaded and ran microsoft "fix it" and it didn't fix shit.

I've tried formatting and re-installing.

Hell, since I have both 32 and 64 bit discs, I tried with both and got the same result.

I've been messing with this thing on and off since Thursday with no luck.

Anybody ran into this before? If so, what turned out to be the cause and what did you do to fix it?

10/5/2015 6:18:43 PM EDT
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Try this

Open Windows Update
Click on Change Settings
change settings to 'Never Update'
OK out and reboot
now go back and change the settings back to Automatic
OK out and reboot
Now try a check for Windows Updates again.

I have no idea if it will work. But it won't hurt anything and may get it unstuck.
10/5/2015 6:28:11 PM EDT
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I have no personal experience with the problem, but I did find this on the internet...







 
10/5/2015 6:31:45 PM EDT
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I just had This same problem, there is a MS update repair utility here. http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2700567.  I tried it a few time without success, what finally worked was not telling windows to look for updates. I just restarted the computer and let it sit for a few hours and let it do its thing. Then it told me there was 260 updates that took 4 hours to install. I think it's just the huge number of updates that causes it to choke.
10/5/2015 6:34:55 PM EDT
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I just had This same problem, there is a MS update repair utility here. http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2700567.  I tried it a few time without success, what finally worked was not telling windows to look for updates. I just restarted the computer and let it sit for a few hours and let it do its thing. Then it told me there was 260 updates that took 4 hours to install. I think it's just the huge number of updates that causes it to choke.
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That's also a possibility.

 
I have W7 installed on my backup desktop that had been turned off for almost 8 months.


One weekend I decided to turn it on to get updates and it sat there and chugged for almost 16 hours before it finally started installing all the missed updates (I just let it run when I went to bed).


Then after re-start it took another 4 hours to get updates that didn't install because they were follow ups to the missing ones....


 
10/5/2015 6:36:54 PM EDT
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The initial update can take hours.
10/5/2015 6:45:02 PM EDT
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This is true...



Several restarts and lots of downloads/installs
 
10/5/2015 6:46:34 PM EDT
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Try this

Open Windows Update
Click on Change Settings
change settings to 'Never Update'
OK out and reboot
now go back and change the settings back to Automatic
OK out and reboot
Now try a check for Windows Updates again.

I have no idea if it will work. But it won't hurt anything and may get it unstuck.
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Try this

Open Windows Update
Click on Change Settings
change settings to 'Never Update'
OK out and reboot
now go back and change the settings back to Automatic
OK out and reboot
Now try a check for Windows Updates again.

I have no idea if it will work. But it won't hurt anything and may get it unstuck.

Tried it. Nothing different so far.

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I just had This same problem, there is a MS update repair utility here. http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2700567.  I tried it a few time without success, what finally worked was not telling windows to look for updates. I just restarted the computer and let it sit for a few hours and let it do its thing. Then it told me there was 260 updates that took 4 hours to install. I think it's just the huge number of updates that causes it to choke.

I will try this.
10/5/2015 6:48:09 PM EDT
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I have no personal experience with the problem, but I did find this on the internet...

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-7-update-service-wont-run/896b0b04-20d7-4676-a8f8-d363aa2f0560

 
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Task manager says it is running.
10/5/2015 6:51:16 PM EDT
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Download sp1 first
10/5/2015 6:52:31 PM EDT
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I guess I will just let it sit there running update and check on it again sometime tomorrow.

When I first installed windows 7 on it a couple of years ago, it would find a bunch of updates, I would install them, reboot, run update again, find more install them, reboot... lather, rinse, repeat.
10/5/2015 6:53:02 PM EDT
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My disc is SP1.
10/5/2015 6:53:48 PM EDT
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How fast is your internet connection?
10/5/2015 6:55:38 PM EDT
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I guess I will just let it sit there running update and check on it again sometime tomorrow.



When I first installed windows 7 on it a couple of years ago, it would find a bunch of updates, I would install them, reboot, run update again, find more install them, reboot... lather, rinse, repeat.
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I think that's a good idea.

 
If that doesn't work, then there probably really is a problem.
10/5/2015 6:56:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, let it churn for a few hours.  It will work eventually.  (seriously)
10/5/2015 6:57:24 PM EDT
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Any unusual hardware?  You may have a hardware problem and the OS is just sitting there trying to read it.
10/5/2015 6:59:15 PM EDT
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http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4721173791
10/5/2015 7:00:43 PM EDT
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Nothing's changed save for the new hard drive. Everything else is just like it was.
10/5/2015 7:01:02 PM EDT
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Ran into this last week

Windows update looked like it was stuck
so I did the usual, ran the Fix it Etc. Still nothing.

No Change... Screw It went home, left it running

Next day, 800 megs of updates ready to download and install

Short Version, Let it run, lots of updates to sort through
it is going to take a while.....
10/5/2015 7:03:15 PM EDT
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Ran into this last week

Windows update looked like it was stuck
so I did the usual, ran the Fix it Etc. Still nothing.

No Change... Screw It went home, left it running

Next day, 800gb of updates ready to download and install

Short Version, Let it run, lots of updates to sort through
it is going to take a while.....
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Ho Lee Phuk!
10/5/2015 7:03:50 PM EDT
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Ho Lee Phuk!
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Ran into this last week

Windows update looked like it was stuck
so I did the usual, ran the Fix it Etc. Still nothing.

No Change... Screw It went home, left it running

Next day, 800gb of updates ready to download and install

Short Version, Let it run, lots of updates to sort through
it is going to take a while.....

Ho Lee Phuk!


See my Edit
10/5/2015 7:06:24 PM EDT
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Ran into this last week

Windows update looked like it was stuck
so I did the usual, ran the Fix it Etc. Still nothing.

No Change... Screw It went home, left it running

Next day, 800gb of updates ready to download and install

Short Version, Let it run, lots of updates to sort through
it is going to take a while.....

Ho Lee Phuk!


See my Edit

That's better. Still a lot, but better.
10/5/2015 7:06:27 PM EDT
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I guess I will just let it sit there running update and check on it again sometime tomorrow.

When I first installed windows 7 on it a couple of years ago, it would find a bunch of updates, I would install them, reboot, run update again, find more install them, reboot... lather, rinse, repeat.
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That's what I tried doing at first too but it would just sit there at checking for updates even waiting several hours. When I let windows discover the updates on its own it found the updates in less time then I waited when using system update in the control panel.

Eta: Maybe it was saving the updates it found all along and that's just when it got to the end. I was researching the problem on another computer and when I got back there they were.
10/5/2015 7:10:34 PM EDT
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That's better. Still a lot, but better.
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Ran into this last week

Windows update looked like it was stuck
so I did the usual, ran the Fix it Etc. Still nothing.

No Change... Screw It went home, left it running

Next day, 800gb of updates ready to download and install

Short Version, Let it run, lots of updates to sort through
it is going to take a while.....

Ho Lee Phuk!


See my Edit

That's better. Still a lot, but better.


That is Round 1
Several rounds of updates to follow...
to get current  
10/5/2015 7:16:24 PM EDT
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Just had the very same issue yesterday.  In the end I said screw it and manually installed some things like IE11 and .net4.0 and some security updates and told it not to bother looking for anything anymore.
10/5/2015 7:22:31 PM EDT
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While leaving it on to get all the Windows updates, I would also suggest hard wiring it to your network if possible.
10/5/2015 8:24:56 PM EDT
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This.

Windows Update initiates some processes where it recursively is doing version and dependency checking.   I remember a tech guy telling me that any kind of interruption (including packets dropping while your wifi cycles session keys) will fuxor it up.    Wire it up and wait a couple days.
10/5/2015 8:51:57 PM EDT
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Question: have you downloaded and installed the Dell drivers yet or are you doing this just off a fresh install of Windows?




Manufacturers submit device drivers to M$ so if your drivers are out of date the Windows Update will take much longer. Much, much longer.



+1 to everyone saying "just let it run". Windows Update needs to run a catalog of what is (or isn't) installed on your machine vs. what is available from M$ including hardware (drivers) updates so an initial update will take a long time. If you have a hard drive activity light you should see it churning/flashing/blinking as the Windows Update service is inspecting your hardware and software configuration.



Set the power settings to "High Performance" so your computer doesn't go to sleep and just let it run.
10/6/2015 1:39:14 PM EDT
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I let it run since last night, about 18 hours. Just came in for lunch and checked and it has 197 updates ready for install.
10/6/2015 4:02:53 PM EDT
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And that's after SP1  

They really should have released SP2 before windows 8
10/7/2015 6:17:56 AM EDT
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Any updates (no pun intended)

10/7/2015 8:20:16 AM EDT
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After the initial 18 hr wait and then 197 updates downloaded and installed at once, it seems to be working just fine. Last night I manually ran update a few times until it said it was up to date and no more could be found.