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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:41:26 PM EDT
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken.
you dont need a waiver until you're 35. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:47:00 PM EDT
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18X
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:48:30 PM EDT
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No to Batt.
2ish years. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:49:46 PM EDT
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken. you dont need a waiver until you're 35. Las I heard that wasn't an option if you're under 20 either. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:54:18 PM EDT
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Las I heard that wasn't an option if you're under 20 either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken. you dont need a waiver until you're 35. Las I heard that wasn't an option if you're under 20 either. Last i heard you should finish an enlistment before trying |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:55:02 PM EDT
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Strong username OP.
Pretty sure 18x is even listed on the go army website these days. Including all the requirements, training and other bs. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:55:39 PM EDT
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken. you dont need a waiver until you're 35. Really? Are you sure you can enlist, go into 18x, go SF, everything without an age waiver if you are under 35? this may be life changing information for me unless NSW ups their age requirement soon (which they should) |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:56:18 PM EDT
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Also, you should go ask this question at professionalsoldiers.com
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:57:19 PM EDT
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Yes there is an SF piepline. Get the book, Get Selected For Special forces.
Good luck and I hope you enlist for at least 11B. 
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:00:18 PM EDT
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Yea always thought it was 28. Hell im 33 and always regretted not trying harder than I did. Even if I don't make it I'll give it my best.
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Really? Are you sure you can enlist, go into 18x, go SF, everything without an age waiver if you are under 35? this may be life changing information for me unless NSW ups their age requirement soon (which they should) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken. you dont need a waiver until you're 35. Really? Are you sure you can enlist, go into 18x, go SF, everything without an age waiver if you are under 35? this may be life changing information for me unless NSW ups their age requirement soon (which they should) |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:00:49 PM EDT
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All you need to be SF is an olympic level physique, and the ability to conduct PhD level cultural studies while shooting people in the face. Oh, and the ability to grow an epic beard.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:01:59 PM EDT
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if you want to wear a green beret get in damn good shape and become a master of land nav.
I would recommend going airborne either infantry, engineer, medical, or commo - why these are sf skill sets. the real secret to getting through selection is not getting hurt. delta force selection is the same tons of land nav you & lots of physical BS gotta never quit be good at the land nav but you need to be smart & careful enough to not get hurt even when your too tired to care if you get hurt., it sounds easy but it isn't your going to gret hurt. be careful, be smart, goodluck |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:03:47 PM EDT
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Is there a 'pipeline' setup to going into SF for a somebody who wants to enlist in the Army? Navy has a SO contract you can earn before you ship to RTC, does Army have a similar program? Also, do you have to serve in Ranger Battalion before getting a chance at SF? How many years does it take to go from Boot Camp to SF, assuming you make it straight through? Also, how difficult are age waivers to get into Boot Camp for a 30 year old? (Assuming he can smash any PST test that was given for SO) Hasn't school started in your area yet? Why aren't you doing homework right now? |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:04:27 PM EDT
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18X
Get the fuck into shape well before you speak to a recruiter, you need to have a minimum of 240 on your APFT at the end of basic to hang onto your contract, and if you just barely pass the following months in training company, SOPC and selection will beat your ass into the mud. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:09:15 PM EDT
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18X for the win
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:14:14 PM EDT
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The fact the OP has to ask this question without trying to find the answer himself tells me he probably won't make it.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:19:59 PM EDT
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All you need to be SF is an olympic level physique, and the ability to conduct PhD level cultural studies while shooting people in the face. Oh, and the ability to grow an epic beard. 
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:22:42 PM EDT
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne. 
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:25:06 PM EDT
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Find an Army National Guard SF Unit. 19th and 20th group. The max age is 32 I think. Get a rep63 contract same as 18x but for NG. Pass SFAS and the Q course then go active. This is your best chance.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:26:20 PM EDT
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The fact the OP has to ask this question without trying to find the answer himself tells me he probably won't make it. This too. All it takes is a google search to find most of the questions anybody will have. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:31:49 PM EDT
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Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
Bait recruits with the prospect of going straight to SF, maybe get a few and then get tons of washouts for infantry or other jobs. I would call it genius but there's no way the Army is competent enough to have done it intentionally. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:32:38 PM EDT
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hijack....
i was at work today with an army friend of mine, and he told me the age went back from 42 to 35....whats the possibility of someone getting a waiver to get in being over 35? |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:35:40 PM EDT
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Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:35:51 PM EDT
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Bait recruits with the prospect of going straight to SF, maybe get a few and then get tons of washouts for infantry or other jobs. I would call it genius but there's no way the Army is competent enough to have done it intentionally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
Bait recruits with the prospect of going straight to SF, maybe get a few and then get tons of washouts for infantry or other jobs. I would call it genius but there's no way the Army is competent enough to have done it intentionally. Don't kid yourself.
Though it worked so well, it probably by accident. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:36:33 PM EDT
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Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
Haha. That may be true, but my best friend and his little bro are both 18X grads. Both in 3rd GRP. So it does happen.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:40:56 PM EDT
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enlist as an 18x. youll go to infantry osut, airborne, sfas prep then sfas. If i'm not mistaken. you dont need a waiver until you're 35. Its 30 now. NG has a higher max age now at like 32 or 34. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:43:58 PM EDT
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Haha. That may be true, but my best friend and his little bro are both 18X grads. Both in 3rd GRP. So it does happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
Haha. That may be true, but my best friend and his little bro are both 18X grads. Both in 3rd GRP. So it does happen. The general consensus is that the 18x program damaged the SF with immature and unready people. There were some great people that came from the 18x program but many GBs disapproved of the program. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:17:58 PM EDT
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How difficult are age waivers for 18x contract to get into Boot Camp for a 30 year old? (Assuming he can smash any PST test that was given for SO) Enjoy your time in the 82nd. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:20:34 PM EDT
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What's your GT score OP?
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:24:00 PM EDT
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This too. All it takes is a google search to find most of the questions anybody will have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact the OP has to ask this question without trying to find the answer himself tells me he probably won't make it. This too. All it takes is a google search to find most of the questions anybody will have. No kidding. Complaining about the maximum age for BUD/S-- and that user name? OP should be either honorably discharged or more than halfway to retirement already. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:25:54 PM EDT
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No kidding. Complaining about the maximum age for BUD/S-- and that user name? OP should be either honorably discharged or more than halfway to retirement already. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact the OP has to ask this question without trying to find the answer himself tells me he probably won't make it. This too. All it takes is a google search to find most of the questions anybody will have. No kidding. Complaining about the maximum age for BUD/S-- and that user name? OP should be either honorably discharged or more than halfway to retirement already. SFAS is not BUD/S. BUD/S is for SEALS. SF has required up until the GWOT that applicants be older and more mature. SEALS are more blow shit up high speed where age and maturity are not factors like SF. BUD/S is like 26 or 28 or something like that. I was navy and can't remember exactly. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:44:11 AM EDT
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Also, you should go ask this question at professionalsoldiers.com This. Use your username from here, they'll love it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:50:16 AM EDT
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfrk6xfZv31qc9mxo.jpg Yup |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:52:37 AM EDT
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Find an Army National Guard SF Unit. 19th and 20th group. The max age is 32 I think. Get a rep63 contract same as 18x but for NG. Pass SFAS and the Q course then go active. This is your best chance. They won't let you do that anymore. I was at 19th once not long ago. You have to enlist, get an mos that is not 18 series so they have somewhere to send those that don't make it. They got tired of getting stuck with people that couldn't make it and they didn't have an mos. OP if you want to join you need to get the SF or nothing stuff out of your head or you'll be miserable when you don't make it. Enlist and learn something first and get some experience. Also, recruiters hear the "I want to be SF/ranger/sniper" crap all the time. I wouldn't count on a waiver if you need one mainly because of the draw down, for lack of a better term. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:56:52 AM EDT
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18X Best thing to ever happen to the 82nd Airborne.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfrk6xfZv31qc9mxo.jpg Yup I LOLed way too hard at that
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Posted: 9/17/2015 2:11:31 AM EDT
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Wow, it use to be that you had to make your E-4 before you got an invitation to "Q". I remember getting the letter when I made E-4. Didn't realize there was a direct pipeline now, but I have been out a while.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 2:38:39 AM EDT
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Is the name NeptuneSpear prior to enlisting a lot like getting the USMC tattoo before going to boot camp?
I hope you get everything you're after; but don't get too focused on only SF or bust as there's a line between wanting to be better and then there's just being seen as a selfish arrogant ass. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 3:32:05 AM EDT
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Just make you get a long tab, trident, and recon tattoo before you sign any papers just in case the black ops community needs to float you around to find the best place for you to drop tangoes.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 3:40:29 AM EDT
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You should probably wait until after the Blood Moon.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 4:52:59 AM EDT
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Did op change the title and his post
This thread will go places Ibtl |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 4:58:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did op change the title and his post This thread will go places Ibtl  |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 5:00:25 AM EDT
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Did op change the title and his post
This thread will go places Ibtl Was wondering how that made my active topics... I'm honestly surprised he's lasted this long. He does entertain me, so that's good in my book. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 5:42:17 AM EDT
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Wow, it use to be that you had to make your E-4 before you got an invitation to "Q". I remember getting the letter when I made E-4. Didn't realize there was a direct pipeline now, but I have been out a while. 18x contracts were available in 1983. Not really a new concept. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 5:54:56 AM EDT
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This thread is pretty amusing, keep it up, good show.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:01:02 AM EDT
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Find an Army National Guard SF Unit. 19th and 20th group. The max age is 32 I think. Get a rep63 contract same as 18x but for NG. Pass SFAS and the Q course then go active. This is your best chance. Find an Air National Guard that flies F-16's, F-15's, or A-10's. Enlist through that unit. Keep your nose clean. Get a degree. Go through their Officer Training School, get your butter bars, apply through that unit to Undergraduate Pilot Training...go through whatever the flight screening program is now, then go to UPT, coast through UPT because you know you will be 100% guaran-fucking-teed of getting whatever plane your ANG unit flies, (I've heard horror stories of some dudes getting picked to fly drones after UPT: fuck that shit, give me the plane with rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong) go to fighter RTU (or whatever the fuck it is called now), and then fly whatever pointy nosed jet on the weekends. Or go through the Army's warrant officer "high school to flight school" program (if they still have it), go to Ft. Rucker and maybe fly an Apache, Kiowa, Blackhawk, or Chinook. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:25:54 AM EDT
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He isn't going anywhere.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:28:27 AM EDT
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So he changed it again
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:31:31 AM EDT
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For a guard unit like 19th I was told you'd need to pick another mos and then go to selections. If you get through selections you'd wait for a time to start the Q course and become an 18x (candidate?).
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:41:44 AM EDT
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You're gonna love the 82nd.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 7:02:17 AM EDT
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Find an Air National Guard that flies F-16's, F-15's, or A-10's. Enlist through that unit. Keep your nose clean. Get a degree. Go through their Officer Training School, get your butter bars, apply through that unit to Undergraduate Pilot Training...go through whatever the flight screening program is now, then go to UPT, coast through UPT because you know you will be 100% guaran-fucking-teed of getting whatever plane your ANG unit flies, (I've heard horror stories of some dudes getting picked to fly drones after UPT: fuck that shit, give me the plane with rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong) go to fighter RTU (or whatever the fuck it is called now), and then fly whatever pointy nosed jet on the weekends. Or go through the Army's warrant officer "high school to flight school" program (if they still have it), go to Ft. Rucker and maybe fly an Apache, Kiowa, Blackhawk, or Chinook. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Find an Army National Guard SF Unit. 19th and 20th group. The max age is 32 I think. Get a rep63 contract same as 18x but for NG. Pass SFAS and the Q course then go active. This is your best chance. Find an Air National Guard that flies F-16's, F-15's, or A-10's. Enlist through that unit. Keep your nose clean. Get a degree. Go through their Officer Training School, get your butter bars, apply through that unit to Undergraduate Pilot Training...go through whatever the flight screening program is now, then go to UPT, coast through UPT because you know you will be 100% guaran-fucking-teed of getting whatever plane your ANG unit flies, (I've heard horror stories of some dudes getting picked to fly drones after UPT: fuck that shit, give me the plane with rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong) go to fighter RTU (or whatever the fuck it is called now), and then fly whatever pointy nosed jet on the weekends. Or go through the Army's warrant officer "high school to flight school" program (if they still have it), go to Ft. Rucker and maybe fly an Apache, Kiowa, Blackhawk, or Chinook. It looks like the OP is 30. I heard someone say just this weekend that the AF reserve components require that pilot training start before 30. No idea on the Army. |
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