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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:33:13 PM EDT
I have several lengths of chain.. 1/2 inch and 5/8?
I want to make a tow chain of various lengths depending on mud hole I'd be stuck in  with gmc sierra 1500
is a simple over hand knot safe? a few wraps and its good? I'll have a come-along,this chain and a shovel |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:35:21 PM EDT
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NO
Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load ETA: 
And please, get a quality one |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:35:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:35:57 PM EDT
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I have several lengths of chain.. 1/2 inch and 5/8? I want to make a tow chain of various lengths depending on mud hole I'd be stuck in with gmc sierra 1500
is a simple over hand knot safe? a few wraps and its good? I'll have a come-along,this chain and a shovel I don't think your supposed to knot tow chain |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:36:48 PM EDT
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I have done it in a pinch, but I agree, if you have time they make links for that.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:37:08 PM EDT
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I don't think your supposed to knot tow chain Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have several lengths of chain.. 1/2 inch and 5/8? I want to make a tow chain of various lengths depending on mud hole I'd be stuck in with gmc sierra 1500
is a simple over hand knot safe? a few wraps and its good? I'll have a come-along,this chain and a shovel I don't think your supposed to knot tow chain I thought it was a joke, at first. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:37:20 PM EDT
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You don't join lengths of chain with knots. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:37:42 PM EDT
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Not knowing much about chain in general, I'd still be the dude you surprised the shit out of if you did that and didn't die.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:38:26 PM EDT
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:38:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:40:14 PM EDT
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NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. OP. listen to this poster. I just engineer the stuff, he uses it. 
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:41:01 PM EDT
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I recommend a good recovery strap instead of chain. 40k rating, and learn how to use it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:41:06 PM EDT
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load ETA: http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/G2150-132x150.png And please, get a quality one Yes a clevis is the correct answer. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:41:06 PM EDT
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thanks for the info!
as I recall the only knot tying I've done with chain is a loop and few wraps around a trailer hitch ball to snatch a pick-up out of a mud hole backwards. I'll get a couple of those U-things pictured to extend my tow length GD FTW... this is why I asked before heading out for my hunt and scouting :) |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:41:27 PM EDT
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Double fishermans knot or if you're feeling ballsy, square knot.
Trust me I'm an engineer |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:41:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:42:43 PM EDT
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Clevis, Cletus, Enos.....
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:43:08 PM EDT
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thanks for the info! as I recall the only knot tying I've done with chain is a loop and few wraps around a trailer hitch ball to snatch a pick-up out of a mud hole backwards. I'll get a couple of those U-things pictured to extend my tow length GD FTW... this is why I asked before heading out for my hunt and scouting :) Trailer hitch ball as a recovery point is a terrible idea. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:44:09 PM EDT
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I recommend a good recovery strap instead of chain. 40k rating, and learn how to use it. This. Why use chain when a good strap will suffice? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:46:36 PM EDT
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load ETA: http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/G2150-132x150.png And please, get a quality one I witnessed what happens when you don't follow this advice. It wasn't pretty. It was a miracle no one died. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a side question, when did they start calling shackles "clevis" Quote History |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:48:47 PM EDT
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OP. listen to this poster. I just engineer the stuff, he uses it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. OP. listen to this poster. I just engineer the stuff, he uses it. Can you make it lighter then?? Same strength, just lighter. 
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:49:32 PM EDT
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NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. This. Chain is serious shit. I once had to use a tractor to pull a concrete truck off of some slick ground he was on (told him not to go that way, but oh, well...). I had the chain hooked to the truck and the tractor with hooks, on good tow points, and the chain broke. Dented the fuck out of the truck's grille. If the other end had broken, or if I'd switched the ends when I hooked it up, it would have come in my direction. I was lucky. Don't do it, OP, spend a few bucks now and be safe. BTW, this happened about 20 years ago with a truck that was probably 15 years old. That grille was NOT plastic. I could have been seriously fucked up. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:50:06 PM EDT
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Double fishermans knot or if you're feeling ballsy, square knot. Trust me I'm an engineer I was thinking sheet bend. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:50:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:51:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking sheet bend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Double fishermans knot or if you're feeling ballsy, square knot. Trust me I'm an engineer I was thinking sheet bend.  |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:52:12 PM EDT
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thanks for the info! as I recall the only knot tying I've done with chain is a loop and few wraps around a trailer hitch ball to snatch a pick-up out of a mud hole backwards. I'll get a couple of those U-things pictured to extend my tow length GD FTW... this is why I asked before heading out for my hunt and scouting :) These are what you need. Be mindful of their tonnage rating, you want one that will take the load and then some. On the tug we figure we want a shackle that handle twice what the load really is because sometimes we have strain and surge to factor in. An example. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recommend a good recovery strap instead of chain. 40k rating, and learn how to use it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:55:33 PM EDT
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This, not using FUCKING CHAIN is the answer. WTF is wrong with people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I recommend a good recovery strap instead of chain. 40k rating, and learn how to use it. I use spectra line myself.
But yeah op, these guys are right. A strap is safer than chain. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:56:31 PM EDT
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load ETA: http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/G2150-132x150.png And please, get a quality one This. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:59:08 PM EDT
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Chain is for hanging on your front bumper from one rusted out frame horn to the other in a figure eight pattern. Most likely from your 1/2 ton mud buster Git git! Hick machine that is sporting 33" Thorn chicken tires, and open front and rear differentials. It will help level out the sagging rear springs on your 12" lift. Without the chain on the front, all the other mud bustin' folk are going to think you are city!!!! Don't forget the $12 glass packs to "Let those horses eat!!" on the smog-era 350 small block running on 7 cylinders. The chain does round out the whole package though.
Seeeeewwweeeeeee!!!!! Haaw Haawww!!!! Get a strap.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 12:59:53 PM EDT
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Can you make it lighter then?? Same strength, just lighter.
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NO Don't do this. Get screw chain links for this. Never tie equipment that will be under load NO NO NO!! If you want to join 2 pieces of chain together use the appropriate tonnage shackle. A knot will not hold in chain and when it snaps back you will be in serious danger. OP. listen to this poster. I just engineer the stuff, he uses it. Can you make it lighter then?? Same strength, just lighter.
You no like synthetic round slings?
ETA: Saw your spectra post - my preference is wire rope grommets. Riggers tend to bitch about my lifting gear choices. Too Damn Heavy
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:06:04 PM EDT
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You never ever put a chain in a knot. That's what hooks and shackles are for.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:08:28 PM EDT
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You should be using recovery straps (not towing straps)
You want your recovery device to stretch a little. Each little bump that happens during the recovery can put severe shock loading on everything. If the strap can stretch, it will absorb those shocks. A chain cannot stretch, and those shocks will go straight to the recovery point, which can break off pretty easily. People get hurt and die. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:11:59 PM EDT
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Its called a Darwin knot.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:19:29 PM EDT
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This:
https://www.google.com/search?q=double+clevis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 I don't know how to make it live. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:24:18 PM EDT
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FPNI.....
If you're not paying attention OP.....I'm calling DIBs on Guns, Ammo, and Optics. A tow chain has it's purposes...but what you need is a nylon jerk/yank/recovery strap. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:25:59 PM EDT
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Chain is for hanging on your front bumper from one rusted out frame horn to the other in a figure eight pattern. Most likely from your 1/2 ton mud buster Git git! Hick machine that is sporting 33" Thorn chicken tires, and open front and rear differentials. It will help level out the sagging rear springs on your 12" lift. Without the chain on the front, all the other mud bustin' folk are going to think you are city!!!! Don't forget the $12 glass packs to "Let those horses eat!!" on the smog-era 350 small block running on 7 cylinders. The chain does round out the whole package though. Seeeeewwweeeeeee!!!!! Haaw Haawww!!!! Get a strap. Don't forget the exhaust tips so when "that ol' exhaust hits that hard chrome it'll really rack off!" |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:28:35 PM EDT
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I have several lengths of chain.. 1/2 inch and 5/8? I want to make a tow chain of various lengths depending on mud hole I'd be stuck in with gmc sierra 1500
is a simple over hand knot safe? a few wraps and its good? I'll have a come-along,this chain and a shovel You are the type of person that should not be leaving the pavement. You don't knot chain. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:29:05 PM EDT
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Chain is a bad idea for vehicle recovery.
Towing a down a road? Yeah, chains will work. Pulling someone out of mud,sand, or rocks? Chains are very dangerous. Look at straps. Tractor supply has 40' recovery straps that have a little stretch to them to keep from tearing the vehicles up too bad. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:37:40 PM EDT
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Can't tie knots in chain?
Sounds like many of you would have heart attacks in offshore oil and gas.  |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:39:34 PM EDT
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Can't tie knots in chain? Sounds like many of you would have heart attacks in offshore oil and gas.
Surprised the still let you use chains. The larger operators will throw a damn fit and run your ass off if you have chains on location. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:39:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised the still let you use chains. The larger operators will throw a damn fit and run your ass off if you have chains on location. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can't tie knots in chain? Sounds like many of you would have heart attacks in offshore oil and gas. Surprised the still let you use chains. The larger operators will throw a damn fit and run your ass off if you have chains on location. Hell even in dive school we learned a couple different knots specifically for chain. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:46:52 PM EDT
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I recommend a good recovery strap instead of chain. 40k rating, and learn how to use it. Im going with this. For extra safety it's recommend to lay a jacket or blanket or something like that over the middle of the strap when it's being used. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:47:01 PM EDT
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I was in it awhile ago. Plus it was a dive company so we kind of do our own thing. Hell even in dive school we learned a couple different knots specifically for chain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't tie knots in chain? Sounds like many of you would have heart attacks in offshore oil and gas.
Surprised the still let you use chains. The larger operators will throw a damn fit and run your ass off if you have chains on location. Hell even in dive school we learned a couple different knots specifically for chain. Underwater would make sense. Anything for lifting above surface is usualy straps or wire rope now. Chains are bad ju-ju on most locations. You still see a few rig movers using them on land but they do a lot of sketchy stuff that gets overlooked. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:52:04 PM EDT
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I got a snatch strap and a tow strap for my pu.
Looks exciting to use the snatch strap....watched the vids of the aussie guys almost losing a rig in the river. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:55:00 PM EDT
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I don't have any pictures but being on a barge when your tow hits a bridge or something starts 1" wires flying around.
And ratchets. If you are on the deck of one you are prolly dead or hurt really bad. Maybe someone has pictures? |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:57:15 PM EDT
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I don't have any pictures but being on a barge when your tow hits a bridge or something starts 1" wires flying around. And ratchets. If you are on the deck of one you are prolly dead or hurt really bad. Maybe someone has pictures? nevermind, already posted. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 1:57:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't join lengths of chain with knots. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 2:03:59 PM EDT
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Oh yeah...a knot will be fine OP
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Rope stretches a lot. Steel does not. Get a tow winch.