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8/30/2015 10:13:32 AM EDT
[#1]
FFS

FBHO

FFSA
8/30/2015 10:17:55 AM EDT
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FSA - bigger than the Armed Forces.

I predict Campos de Fema in their future.
8/30/2015 10:20:08 AM EDT
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The military FSA get paid even more.
8/30/2015 10:20:44 AM EDT
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But I was told the other day in another thread when I was bitching about this that these people are Americans and I was wrong not to support them for that reason alone.
I am so confused.

8/30/2015 10:23:45 AM EDT
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I believe that gov't re-distribution is immoral.

I also believe that we are seeing the results of the immoral policies we have been following.

Repeal the 16th amendment, (it conflicts with the 13th anyway).

Do away with Social Security.

Reduce the minimum wage to about negative $10 an hour.

Yes, I used to support eliminating the minimum wage.  I still do, but, I find that calling for a reduction seems to get people's attention better.

8/30/2015 10:35:14 AM EDT
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I also believe that we are seeing the results of the immoral policies we have been following.

Repeal the 16th amendment, (it conflicts with the 13th anyway).

Do away with Social Security.

Reduce the minimum wage to about negative $10 an hour.

Yes, I used to support eliminating the minimum wage.  I still do, but, I find that calling for a reduction seems to get people's attention better.

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Repeal the 21st amendment.  It conflicts with the 18th Amendment.
8/30/2015 10:38:16 AM EDT
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America is done.

8/30/2015 11:04:10 AM EDT
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So total benefits in 9 states near or OVER the equivalent of a $40k a year job.



Lets see...




Hawaii

DC

Massachusetts

Connecticut

NY

NJ

Rhode Island

Vermont

New Hampshire




Maybe I should not bother looking for another job and move to one of those to live off the state?




At the other end, there are 10 states that provide less that the equivalent of a $14k/year job.




How Dare They!

Don't they know that its impossible to live on that little? Welfare should provide no less than a Living Wage!!!!









8/30/2015 11:06:10 AM EDT
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8/30/2015 11:10:11 AM EDT
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8/30/2015 11:10:13 AM EDT
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Ever been to "the projects"?  These are the public housing projects to provide housing for the FSA.  They are probably the single most dangerous place in the USA.
8/30/2015 11:10:29 AM EDT
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A certain percentage of any given population will be content to live in shit, so long as it's warm.
8/30/2015 11:14:22 AM EDT
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8/30/2015 11:18:11 AM EDT
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A significant portion of the military, low ASVAB scores, no significant skills, terrible at their job but not doing enough wrong to get kicked out etc. They can stay in military for their enlistment terms essentially doing nothing but still getting paid as E3-E6.

Not to say the entire military is like that, but anyone who has done time in the military knows who I'm talking about. I've even seen a few cases on submarines, supposedly the cream of the crop of navy sailors. its even worse on regular surface ships.
8/30/2015 11:21:14 AM EDT
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That chart doesn't take in to consideration the amount of children people have.


That's cant be for a white male with no kids.


8/30/2015 11:21:49 AM EDT
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*sigh*  bread and circuses
8/30/2015 11:22:22 AM EDT
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Liberals will tell you that even with receiving all life essentials for free, people will still work as a matter of personal pride and self-achievement.
8/30/2015 11:25:21 AM EDT
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A significant portion of the military, low ASVAB scores, no significant skills, terrible at their job but not doing enough wrong to get kicked out etc. They can stay in military for their enlistment terms essentially doing nothing but still getting paid as E3-E6.

Not to say the entire military is like that, but anyone who has done time in the military knows who I'm talking about. I've even seen a few cases on submarines, supposedly the cream of the crop of navy sailors. its even worse on regular surface ships.
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A significant portion of the military, low ASVAB scores, no significant skills, terrible at their job but not doing enough wrong to get kicked out etc. They can stay in military for their enlistment terms essentially doing nothing but still getting paid as E3-E6.

Not to say the entire military is like that, but anyone who has done time in the military knows who I'm talking about. I've even seen a few cases on submarines, supposedly the cream of the crop of navy sailors. its even worse on regular surface ships.


Yep, both .mil and .gov has a lot of fat that needs cut. As a .gov employee I see this daily, folks that have just slid by for many years and have no skills and knowledge but are untouchable from getting fired and know it. Did I mention most are making a hefty salary and will be getting a hefty retirement for they rest of their life.

As for welfare, it should't exist period..................period.
8/30/2015 11:29:24 AM EDT
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A significant portion of the military, low ASVAB scores, no significant skills, terrible at their job but not doing enough wrong to get kicked out etc. They can stay in military for their enlistment terms essentially doing nothing but still getting paid as E3-E6.

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A significant portion of the military, low ASVAB scores, no significant skills, terrible at their job but not doing enough wrong to get kicked out etc. They can stay in military for their enlistment terms essentially doing nothing but still getting paid as E3-E6.

Not to say the entire military is like that, but anyone who has done time in the military knows who I'm talking about. I've even seen a few cases on submarines, supposedly the cream of the crop of navy sailors. its even worse on regular surface ships.


A) Well that's a failure on their leadership for evaluating those individuals in such a way that they are promotable. Not an indictment on the military.
B) maintaining wartime manning numbers is tough, you're gonna get some riffraff. I take it you're not still in, downsizing is taking care of this problem. Besides all that, to compare a sub par military member with a welfare queen is terrible comparison. That sub par performer still works and sacrifices a noteworthy amount.

8/30/2015 11:31:48 AM EDT
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Damn, if my wife and I move to Hawaii we'd make a combined higher wage on welfare then I do now with a management position at a multi-billion dollar a year company that I just got (started last week) with 20 years of experience lol.
8/30/2015 11:51:39 AM EDT
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Yep. This is why every leftist social or political philosophy, every leftist economic theory, every leftist... anything... fails.

Their success is dependent upon people living in opposition to basic human nature.
8/30/2015 12:10:57 PM EDT
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Remember that kid that showed up with a wife and 3 kids, and has to take her and the kids to all their appointments because she's illiterate and can't drive? Remember how he went on profile the first day there and didn't come off until he was medically retired for PTSD from something that happened before he joined the Army? I think that's what he's referring to.

 
8/30/2015 12:51:18 PM EDT
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No wonder our roads suck.
8/30/2015 12:55:25 PM EDT
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8/30/2015 12:55:44 PM EDT
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I guess you have only had perfect soldiers.
8/30/2015 12:57:46 PM EDT
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8/30/2015 12:59:21 PM EDT
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I witnessed a soldier who pissed hot for several drugs...take over a year to be kicked out of the military.

He was 11series too.
8/30/2015 1:00:55 PM EDT
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Number 13, Wyoming. That surprises me.
8/30/2015 1:07:46 PM EDT
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13 states make more than I do with 30 years of experience, and some pay better than some jobs at the top of my profession.  Even my executive protection job for a Fortune 100 corporation made less than a welfare recipient in 12 states, although that was over a decade ago.  Most of that list make quite a bit more than when I was National Operations Manager for the world's largest security firm in Cambodia.

Sheesh.  I might as well just come back to the States and sit on my ass.
8/30/2015 1:14:56 PM EDT
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Remember that kid that showed up with a wife and 3 kids, and has to take her and the kids to all their appointments because she's illiterate and can't drive? Remember how he went on profile the first day there and didn't come off until he was medically retired for PTSD from something that happened before he joined the Army? I think that's what he's referring to.  
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Remember that kid that showed up with a wife and 3 kids, and has to take her and the kids to all their appointments because she's illiterate and can't drive? Remember how he went on profile the first day there and didn't come off until he was medically retired for PTSD from something that happened before he joined the Army? I think that's what he's referring to.  


I've seen a few of those.  Many have wives that cannot drive! Don't work, don't go to school don't have kids one kid has some sort of medical issues is always on a profile has been in 4 years never done a real pt test since basic and is 5'10 260 lbs given constant paperwork denied the chance to test for E5 and not allowed to re enlist.  They are doing everything they can to try and get medically retired but I think they got denied because they cannot find anything wrong
8/30/2015 1:27:15 PM EDT
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Why work when your parents and your Grandparent before them found a better way ?