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8/21/2015 11:29:24 AM EDT
Anyone have experience with this? I have been thinking about doing this for a while, curious if anyone here has tried it? Any surprises? Find any secret siblings?
8/21/2015 11:39:07 AM EDT
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Yea I would like to try it.  But something about somebody else having my DNA on file keeps me from doing it.  Just sayin, the tin foil is wrapped tight this morning.  
8/21/2015 11:42:03 AM EDT
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If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?
8/21/2015 11:46:58 AM EDT
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I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?
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Yea I would like to try it.  But something about somebody else having my DNA on file keeps me from doing it.  Just sayin, the tin foil is wrapped tight this morning.  


If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?


Ancestry says they can tell you percentage Native American, but can not differentiate the specific tribe.
8/21/2015 11:46:59 AM EDT
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If you can shrug off $100, it's kind of interesting. No shocking revelations for me, but I was more Irish and less Scandinavian than I expected...

It's all probabilities, very wide ranges too.  I'm 31% (13-49%) Irish, 23% (0-49%) Scandinavian, 16% (0-42%) Europe West - French/German DNA is all merged together, etc.

But it did put to rest an old family tale of Native American heritage. No trace of that in my DNA, at least for this test.

Google for a free shipping coupon code.
8/21/2015 11:47:19 AM EDT
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My wife did it. Over priced, inconclusive bullshit.
8/21/2015 11:50:33 AM EDT
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Yea I would like to try it.  But something about somebody else having my DNA on file keeps me from doing it.  Just sayin, the tin foil is wrapped tight this morning.  


If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?

It's not a matter of how easy it is to get, more a matter of willingly giving it away to a private company who can, and will, do literally whatever they want with it. Pretty sure google is involved with the company behind this and I think a link was already posted to how it fucked one guy over.

As has already been stated, it's not all that accurate/effective, so why pay to have some company sell your DNA (or at least what information they get from it) to someone else?
8/21/2015 12:16:39 PM EDT
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That brings us back to what is your heritage? And what does it mean? Especially in Europe and Russia. Say your ancestors moved from Austria to France for some reason. Their offspring married someone who's parents were from Finland and moved to France. That married couple has one generation of offspring and those offspring marry French and move to America and 6 generations later, you came into existence.

And of course, if you're from Texas, shit, none of it matters anyway.

8/21/2015 1:43:20 PM EDT
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If you can shrug off $100, it's kind of interesting. No shocking revelations for me, but I was more Irish and less Scandinavian than I expected...

It's all probabilities, very wide ranges too.  I'm 31% (13-49%) Irish, 23% (0-49%) Scandinavian, 16% (0-42%) Europe West - French/German DNA is all merged together, etc.

But it did put to rest an old family tale of Native American heritage. No trace of that in my DNA, at least for this test.

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Did it connect you to any distant relatives on Ancestry.com?
8/21/2015 1:48:16 PM EDT
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I read all these DNA tests are way too broad and are more or less scams.  More detailed tests cost hundreds or thousands of dollars and even then they aren't gonna pinpoint exactly what country you came from.

I did love that show where they told Oprah she wasn't descended from Zulu royalty but was nothing more than some lowly western African descendant common amongst the vast majority of slaves.
8/21/2015 1:53:04 PM EDT
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My dad had his done which did reveal some interesting things.

The biggest being that he is 46% Scandinavian. Based on my dad's and my physical attributes, Scandanavians are short, and portly with matching dicks.

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8/21/2015 1:56:49 PM EDT
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I'll save you the trouble...

...all the bullcrap your grandma told you about your great-great-great grandmother being an "Indian Princess" is just that, bullcrap. The tribes didn't have kings and queens so there were no princes or princesses. (...got that, Elizabeth? Ward?)

All that stuff about your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa being a Viking is bullcrap too.

You're mostly English and German with a little Irish (although no one in your family will admit it)






...j/k to all of the above.
8/21/2015 2:00:21 PM EDT
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Someday i want to do it, I'm just curious what they will find.
8/21/2015 2:03:59 PM EDT
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I haven't done the ancestry one, but my dad gifted me one with 123andme (I doubt I'd have done it otherwise). The results were interesting if not earth shaking. The most significant thing was the destruction of the family myth that my grandmother was half Cherokee.
8/21/2015 2:04:01 PM EDT
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From what I remember it follows the maternal genomics(?)
In other words, it is not your father and mother-
It gives you the lineage from your mother, her mother, your maternal grandmother, her mother, etc.
8/21/2015 2:06:13 PM EDT
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Spousal unit just sent one away...shes been selling me wolf tickets about being native american for 30+ years now...we are about to see...will post soon...to her defense she does look like she is toting some squaw in her...she did spit out 4 younguns like a boss...2 at home, 2 in a birthing center, left 4 hours after we got there baby wrapped for travel. She went to the grocery store the same afternoon...two different times...
8/21/2015 2:07:01 PM EDT
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"Unlike some other DNA tests, which only analyze the Y-chromosome (and can only be taken by a male to look at your direct paternal lineage) or mitochondrial DNA (can be taken by a male or female but only looks at your direct maternal lineage), AncestryDNA looks at a person’s entire genome at over 700,000 locations."
8/21/2015 2:08:05 PM EDT
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no thanks.


I'll remain cynical about someone having my dna.
8/21/2015 2:09:57 PM EDT
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It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.

8/21/2015 2:12:46 PM EDT
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It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.

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I haven't done the ancestry one, but my dad gifted me one with 123andme (I doubt I'd have done it otherwise). The results were interesting if not earth shaking. The most significant thing was the destruction of the family myth that my grandmother was half Cherokee.


It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.



Did you learn things that were contradictory to "family legend"?
8/21/2015 2:13:31 PM EDT
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They can take your money and tell you anything. Whether it's true or not.
I wouldn't trust their "results".
8/21/2015 2:16:58 PM EDT
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I haven't done the ancestry one, but my dad gifted me one with 123andme (I doubt I'd have done it otherwise). The results were interesting if not earth shaking. The most significant thing was the destruction of the family myth that my grandmother was half Cherokee.


It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.



Did you learn things that were contradictory to "family legend"?


No, because I didn't know much about our family history.  I could see how that could happen, though.

They did manage to trace my paternal heritage back to a specific Irish King around 400 A.D.



8/21/2015 2:17:38 PM EDT
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I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?
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Yea I would like to try it.  But something about somebody else having my DNA on file keeps me from doing it.  Just sayin, the tin foil is wrapped tight this morning.  


If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?


Easily.  Back when the Indian registry was opened, many people were ashamed of their Indian ancestry, and refused to sign the registry.  Current day, Native American is a legal designation that requires you have an ancestor on the registry.  In other words, unlike African American or other such terms, it actually means something.  So because many people with Native American DNA don't legally qualify as Native American, they don't claim themselves as Native American, and therefore that demographic is underrepresented.
8/21/2015 2:27:10 PM EDT
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It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

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I haven't done the ancestry one, but my dad gifted me one with 123andme (I doubt I'd have done it otherwise). The results were interesting if not earth shaking. The most significant thing was the destruction of the family myth that my grandmother was half Cherokee.


It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.


I'm doing mine soon. Do you think the 23andMe was more detailed than the Ancestry test from things you've seen?
8/21/2015 2:27:13 PM EDT
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I didn't sign up for the rest of ancestry.com. The DNA test won't tell you you're a descendant of Thor-son-of-Gimli and stuff, but it will suggest that you're closely related to FatBobTheCanuk on Ancestry.com, and you could connect with him ("Just $49 for a 6 mo trial!") and try to find how your tree fits into his. If he researched a bunch of his tree maybe it could link you to an ancestor.

Mine suggested one "close family" (cousin maybe), one 1st cousin, one 2nd cousin, one 3rd cousin, maybe forty 4th cousins, and fifty pages of distant relatives. 3rd & 4th+ cousins are basically not related in my opinion, so I didn't pursue any of the links at all. But as more people join, the possibilities increase.

That's just me. Maybe your relatives are really into ancestry.com and you instantly link up with dozens of them. Or not, who knows.

ETA: I was still fascinated by the ancestry percentages and I'm not that paranoid about gov't getting muh DNA, so I'd do it again. Just have realistic expectations.
8/21/2015 2:34:57 PM EDT
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I haven't done the ancestry one, but my dad gifted me one with 123andme (I doubt I'd have done it otherwise). The results were interesting if not earth shaking. The most significant thing was the destruction of the family myth that my grandmother was half Cherokee.


It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.

And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.


I'm doing mine soon. Do you think the 23andMe was more detailed than the Ancestry test from things you've seen?


Yes, but check this out and make an informed decision:  http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart

eta:  More information to consider.
8/21/2015 2:45:44 PM EDT
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My dad had his done which did reveal some interesting things.

The biggest being that he is 46% Scandinavian. Based on my dad's and my physical attributes, Scandanavians are short, and portly with matching dicks.

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Why do you know what your dad's dick looks like? There are hotlines for that bro....
8/21/2015 2:50:31 PM EDT
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Posted it before..



Brother did the test, the family history of being Cherokee was shot to hell. Not a drop of Indian blood.
8/21/2015 2:56:30 PM EDT
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Insurance companies will use the results to deny coverage.




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There's no way anyone would ever hack Ancestry.com and share the results with the world.
8/21/2015 3:02:19 PM EDT
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It's 23 and me.  As in, 23 chromosomes.



And yes, I learned a lot about my ancestry.  It was a gift, but it would have been worth the $99 it costs.







 
That's the one a friend told me about. How much info is provided? Is it a one page report? A binder? All text? Graphs and such? What'd you get from them?




Anyone know who offers the best, most comprehensive of these services?
8/21/2015 3:03:27 PM EDT
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Why is this so common? Seems every family has that imaginary native-american relative. People say it's to hide African ancestry, but I didn't have African DNA either.
My guess, 1) NA DNA is under-represented like some have posted, and 2) small percentages can be "bred-out" pretty easily. If your dad had 10% of some DNA, there's a decent chance you'll get none of it.

Genomics can be un-intuitive: http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/01/your-family-past-present-and-future.html
8/21/2015 3:03:42 PM EDT
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I'm going to guess it's a scam......like  the Ashley Madison site.  (not that I know anything about that-except that allegedly there were very very few women on the site).

These guys can take your money and tell you what ever they want to......and we will believe it cause how do you know?  

I've become that skeptical these days.
8/21/2015 3:05:47 PM EDT
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Pulled the trigger on this last week when they were running a $79 special. I expect delivery by Monday. Of course, then I have to send it back and wait.

I have a couple of Native Americans in the tree way back, but no Cherokee. One Creek (Alabama) and one Nansemond (Virginia). Like I said, no Cherokee or anything flashy that tends to be the typical "family legend" type junk.

I have a brick wall that I've been trying to get past for years that is only 4 generations back from me. It's the only line in my tree that doesn't go waaaaaay farther back and it's also my namesake.

The only reason I'm doing it is because I know someone else who did (she's adopted) that has had some good results and been able to contact distant relatives who are helping her piece together her family tree.

So that's my motivation. I'll report back. ASAP.
8/21/2015 3:07:19 PM EDT
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If you can shrug off $100, it's kind of interesting. No shocking revelations for me, but I was more Irish and less Scandinavian than I expected...

It's all probabilities, very wide ranges too.  I'm 31% (13-49%) Irish, 23% (0-49%) Scandinavian, 16% (0-42%) Europe West - French/German DNA is all merged together, etc.

But it did put to rest an old family tale of Native American heritage. No trace of that in my DNA, at least for this test.

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8/21/2015 3:13:21 PM EDT
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I'm going to guess it's a scam......like  the Ashley Madison site.  (not that I know anything about that-except that allegedly there were very very few women on the site).





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Well since they know nothing about you other then a DNA sample, how do they "tell you whatever they want"?







How do they know if I'm a black guy, an indian, an Anglo? They wouldn't.







It's not like they just spin an ethnicity wheel and send you info based on where the wheel stops.


 



Im wondering which service provides the most comprehensive results.
8/21/2015 3:15:26 PM EDT
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But it did put to rest an old family tale of Native American heritage. No trace of that in my DNA, at least for this test.


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Seriously. Nobody really believed it in our family anyway.
8/21/2015 3:21:53 PM EDT
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Asked somebody who I know that has worked with Ancestry.com.  They have a limited database of confirmed native American DNA to check against.  Means that it is very possible to get a false negative.
8/21/2015 3:22:00 PM EDT
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My daughter did this and was contacted by a man claiming to be her second cousin, looking for his father.  Her mother is adopted so I'm sure it can get interesting.
8/21/2015 3:23:59 PM EDT
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How do they know if I'm a black guy, an indian, an Anglo? They wouldn't.


It's not like they just spin an ethnicity wheel and send you info based on where the wheel stops.
 

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I'm going to guess it's a scam......like  the Ashley Madison site.  (not that I know anything about that-except that allegedly there were very very few women on the site).

These guys can take your money and tell you what ever they want to......and we will believe it cause how do you know?  

I've become that skeptical these days.

  Well since they know nothing about you other then a DNA sample, how do they "tell you whatever they want"?


How do they know if I'm a black guy, an indian, an Anglo? They wouldn't.


It's not like they just spin an ethnicity wheel and send you info based on where the wheel stops.
 

Im wondering which service provides the most comprehensive results.


They can.
8/21/2015 3:24:57 PM EDT
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Don't need a Dna test. The coat of arms I ordered on the net tells me about all the knights and stuff in my family.
8/21/2015 3:39:42 PM EDT
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My mom is full blood Sioux and I'm 50%.  Both enrolled in the tribe.  I wonder if they offer any deals or discounts for some "known" indian blood for their data?

Yep.  I'm cheap.
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8/21/2015 3:55:26 PM EDT
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If I ever did it...and mine came back with even a DROP of black ancestry, I'd wave it like a flag.

...(but then, would I suddenly forget how to swim?) j/k
8/21/2015 4:24:16 PM EDT
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These guys can take your money and tell you what ever they want to......and we will believe it cause how do you know?  



I've become that skeptical these days.


  Well since they know nothing about you other then a DNA sample, how do they "tell you whatever they want"?





How do they know if I'm a black guy, an indian, an Anglo? They wouldn't.





It's not like they just spin an ethnicity wheel and send you info based on where the wheel stops.

 



Im wondering which service provides the most comprehensive results.





They can.




 
How?
8/22/2015 11:13:41 AM EDT
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I'm going to guess it's a scam......like  the Ashley Madison site.  (not that I know anything about that-except that allegedly there were very very few women on the site).

These guys can take your money and tell you what ever they want to......and we will believe it cause how do you know?  

I've become that skeptical these days.

  Well since they know nothing about you other then a DNA sample, how do they "tell you whatever they want"?


How do they know if I'm a black guy, an indian, an Anglo? They wouldn't.


It's not like they just spin an ethnicity wheel and send you info based on where the wheel stops.
 

Im wondering which service provides the most comprehensive results.


They can.

  How?


Not sure specifics but I assume based on a large sample.  The generic test tells you what percent you are from.
8/22/2015 11:37:34 AM EDT
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I didn't sign up for the rest of ancestry.com. The DNA test won't tell you you're a descendant of Thor-son-of-Gimli and stuff, but it will suggest that you're closely related to FatBobTheCanuk on Ancestry.com, and you could connect with him ("Just $49 for a 6 mo trial!") and try to find how your tree fits into his. If he researched a bunch of his tree maybe it could link you to an ancestor.

Mine suggested one "close family" (cousin maybe), one 1st cousin, one 2nd cousin, one 3rd cousin, maybe forty 4th cousins, and fifty pages of distant relatives. 3rd & 4th+ cousins are basically not related in my opinion, so I didn't pursue any of the links at all. But as more people join, the possibilities increase.

That's just me. Maybe your relatives are really into ancestry.com and you instantly link up with dozens of them. Or not, who knows.

ETA: I was still fascinated by the ancestry percentages and I'm not that paranoid about gov't getting muh DNA, so I'd do it again. Just have realistic expectations.
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I didn't sign up for the rest of ancestry.com. The DNA test won't tell you you're a descendant of Thor-son-of-Gimli and stuff, but it will suggest that you're closely related to FatBobTheCanuk on Ancestry.com, and you could connect with him ("Just $49 for a 6 mo trial!") and try to find how your tree fits into his. If he researched a bunch of his tree maybe it could link you to an ancestor.

Mine suggested one "close family" (cousin maybe), one 1st cousin, one 2nd cousin, one 3rd cousin, maybe forty 4th cousins, and fifty pages of distant relatives. 3rd & 4th+ cousins are basically not related in my opinion, so I didn't pursue any of the links at all. But as more people join, the possibilities increase.

That's just me. Maybe your relatives are really into ancestry.com and you instantly link up with dozens of them. Or not, who knows.

ETA: I was still fascinated by the ancestry percentages and I'm not that paranoid about gov't getting muh DNA, so I'd do it again. Just have realistic expectations.


Dating
8/22/2015 11:42:17 AM EDT
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My experience is ......

Everybody is 10% Native American with the other 90% being Scotch/Irish.

8/22/2015 11:44:07 AM EDT
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Hands down one of the funniest things I have ever read on arfcom. I tried to read it to the wife but couldn't do it without laughing so she read it herself. Her only comment was "men are pigs."
8/22/2015 11:44:16 AM EDT
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If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?
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Yea I would like to try it.  But something about somebody else having my DNA on file keeps me from doing it.  Just sayin, the tin foil is wrapped tight this morning.  


If somebody wants your DNA, it's about the easiest thing you have to obtain.  There's far more important stuff to get cynical about.


I've heard Native American lines are usually under represented, any truth/explanation to this?

Group funding for an Elizabeth Warren test?
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Why do you know what your dad's dick looks like? There are hotlines for that bro....
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Why do you know what your dad's dick looks like? There are hotlines for that bro....


He lost half his dick fighting the Germans at Pearl Harbor. He likes to show how much of a patriot he is.

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