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7/29/2015 4:32:22 AM EDT
This is a serious question but why don't we use missiles as casevac or to fall back in the military?


Missiles don't weigh much once you take off the warhead and every soldier can carry one. Instead of waiting for extract, you can just find an open area or a roof and missile yourself back to the FOB. An AIM-9 sidewinder has a range of like 25 miles. Why can't this work for people?

To avoid coming in too his the missiles would have chutes so you land safely.
7/29/2015 4:36:18 AM EDT
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Going from 0 to Mach 2.6 in a few seconds would be...unfortunate
7/29/2015 4:36:54 AM EDT
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Who says we don't?
7/29/2015 4:37:36 AM EDT
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No shit, doing it with a 80-100 pound pack 60 pounds worth of other gear shit would be painful.
7/29/2015 4:38:53 AM EDT
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FPNI   G lock would kill you
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7/29/2015 4:39:57 AM EDT
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WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
7/29/2015 4:40:37 AM EDT
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Basically every soldier gets a missile. Instead of waiting for the helicopters to come in for extract, they strap themselves onto the missile, ignite and ride them to the FOB.
7/29/2015 4:43:04 AM EDT
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Ask the guys who've been extracted via whatever they called that hook dragged from a C-130 or whatever how pleasant it was.

Magnify that by 1000.
7/29/2015 4:43:10 AM EDT
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I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.
7/29/2015 4:45:00 AM EDT
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I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.
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Basically every soldier gets a missile. Instead of waiting for the helicopters to come in for extract, they strap themselves onto the missile, ignite and ride them to the FOB.


I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.


What, you think it's a bad idea? You think I'm crazy?

This is what everyone called the Wright brothers when they first took flight.
7/29/2015 4:45:20 AM EDT
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You've had why more to drink than I have.
7/29/2015 4:46:43 AM EDT
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What, you think it's a bad idea? You think I'm crazy?

This is what everyone called the Wright brothers when they first took flight.
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Basically every soldier gets a missile. Instead of waiting for the helicopters to come in for extract, they strap themselves onto the missile, ignite and ride them to the FOB.


I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.


What, you think it's a bad idea? You think I'm crazy?

This is what everyone called the Wright brothers when they first took flight.


I think its a retarded idea to give people missles that will send them back to base.

Would you want to hump that thing around in addition to the rest of your gear?
7/29/2015 4:48:43 AM EDT
[#12]
Hey, try and hit the SRB strapped to my back! I dare ya, ya dumb fucks!
7/29/2015 4:48:44 AM EDT
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I think its a retarded idea to give people missles that will send them back to base.

Would you want to hump that thing around in addition to the rest of your gear?
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Basically every soldier gets a missile. Instead of waiting for the helicopters to come in for extract, they strap themselves onto the missile, ignite and ride them to the FOB.


I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.


What, you think it's a bad idea? You think I'm crazy?

This is what everyone called the Wright brothers when they first took flight.


I think its a retarded idea to give people missles that will send them back to base.

Would you want to hump that thing around in addition to the rest of your gear?


The benefits outweigh the risks. Just because you can't accept this doesn't mean it isn't true. You need to learn when you're wrong, man.
7/29/2015 4:51:40 AM EDT
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The benefits outweigh the risks. Just because you can't accept this doesn't mean it isn't true. You need to learn when you're wrong, man.
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Basically every soldier gets a missile. Instead of waiting for the helicopters to come in for extract, they strap themselves onto the missile, ignite and ride them to the FOB.


I could see that going very badly for many.  Oh Lt. got us lost so we send him back to the fob.

Or lets shoot our missles at each other and who ever gets taken back to the fob loses (wins).  

Or oh hey lets shoot our missles at the enemy them fobbits don't know shit about getting into a fire fight.


What, you think it's a bad idea? You think I'm crazy?

This is what everyone called the Wright brothers when they first took flight.


I think its a retarded idea to give people missles that will send them back to base.

Would you want to hump that thing around in addition to the rest of your gear?


The benefits outweigh the risks. Just because you can't accept this doesn't mean it isn't true. You need to learn when you're wrong, man.


Except they don't and they wont.
7/29/2015 4:55:22 AM EDT
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Think of the amount of money they'd save by not having to send in choppers everytime for evac.

Think of the added flexibility provided by the individual's capability to evac.

Hell, the saved money could be used to fund things like exoskeletons which would help to fight off this weight problem you keep crying about.

Why don't you want mechanized soldiers akin to those in Edge of Tomorrow? Don't you want to stop the alien threat?
7/29/2015 5:00:26 AM EDT
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Think of the amount of money they'd save by not having to send in choppers everytime for evac.

Think of the added flexibility provided by the individual's capability to evac.

Hell, the saved money could be used to fund things like exoskeletons which would help to fight off this weight problem you keep crying about.

Why don't you want mechanized soldiers akin to those in Edge of Tomorrow? Don't you want to stop the alien threat?
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Except they don't and they wont.


Think of the amount of money they'd save by not having to send in choppers everytime for evac.

Think of the added flexibility provided by the individual's capability to evac.

Hell, the saved money could be used to fund things like exoskeletons which would help to fight off this weight problem you keep crying about.

Why don't you want mechanized soldiers akin to those in Edge of Tomorrow? Don't you want to stop the alien threat?


Lol, I don't know what you've been drinking but I think you need to send me a bottle of what ever it is.
7/29/2015 5:06:52 AM EDT
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Lol, I don't know what you've been drinking but I think you need to send me a bottle of what ever it is.
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Except they don't and they wont.


Think of the amount of money they'd save by not having to send in choppers everytime for evac.

Think of the added flexibility provided by the individual's capability to evac.

Hell, the saved money could be used to fund things like exoskeletons which would help to fight off this weight problem you keep crying about.

Why don't you want mechanized soldiers akin to those in Edge of Tomorrow? Don't you want to stop the alien threat?


Lol, I don't know what you've been drinking but I think you need to send me a bottle of what ever it is.


I am a master of all things.
7/29/2015 5:20:23 AM EDT
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For perspective a sidewinder coming off the rail of an F14 going +500 MPH makes the F14 look like it is standing still...  
7/29/2015 6:01:24 AM EDT
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That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have read on this forum, and I've read some really dumb shit here.

You get /
7/29/2015 6:11:05 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 6:15:23 AM EDT
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I can't wait for the kids to go back to school.
7/29/2015 6:30:53 AM EDT
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I...

I...

...so much derp...

I don't even know where to begin...

...for once, even I am speechless.



This IS a joke, right?
7/29/2015 6:41:47 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 6:44:44 AM EDT
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OP, please throw out the Betamax copy of rocketeer you're apparently rubbing it out to.

This is the dumbest fucking topic I have seen on this board in months. Trump threads are smarter than this. Replace the M4 with a mosin threads are smarter than this.

You should feel bad OP. You should contact every fucking public school teacher who ever let you spend a year drooling on yourself so that they know that they should feel fucking bad too.

Christ on a cupcake I hope you are never in charge of anything important. Ever.
7/29/2015 6:45:29 AM EDT
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13ing


7/29/2015 6:46:59 AM EDT
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I think the OP's idea has merit.

We should conduct some operational tests.

On him.

7/29/2015 6:52:22 AM EDT
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Pretty sure the Japanese tried this back in WW2
7/29/2015 7:12:22 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 7:33:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Thread title is misleading.
7/29/2015 7:41:06 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 7:50:01 AM EDT
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Wow...just wow that's fucking dumb...
7/29/2015 8:04:47 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 8:13:51 AM EDT
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OP, please throw out the Betamax copy of rocketeer you're apparently rubbing it out to.

This is the dumbest fucking topic I have seen on this board in months. Trump threads are smarter than this. Replace the M4 with a mosin threads are smarter than this.

You should feel bad OP. You should contact every fucking public school teacher who ever let you spend a year drooling on yourself so that they know that they should feel fucking bad too.

Christ on a cupcake I hope you are never in charge of anything important. Ever.
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7/29/2015 8:53:09 AM EDT
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We can't.  Muslims patented the technology right after they landed on the moon in 1635.
7/29/2015 8:56:45 AM EDT
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OP, please throw out the Betamax copy of rocketeer you're apparently rubbing it out to.

This is the dumbest fucking topic I have seen on this board in months. Trump threads are smarter than this. Replace the M4 with a mosin threads are smarter than this.

You should feel bad OP. You should contact every fucking public school teacher who ever let you spend a year drooling on yourself so that they know that they should feel fucking bad too.

Christ on a cupcake I hope you are never in charge of anything important. Ever.
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7/29/2015 8:59:08 AM EDT
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If every squad carried a hot air balloon, when danger is close they could assemble their balloon and exfil in style.  There's no need to carry fuel, burn local trash to heat the air in the envelope, and everyone can add their little Sterno blocks to help.



7/29/2015 9:03:04 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s93.photobucket.com/user/VACaver/media/rocket_zpstk5l6apa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/VACaver/rocket_zpstk5l6apa.jpg</a>
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Don't give him any ideas;  OP is likely to suggest infantry on rocket-skates next.

7/29/2015 9:03:15 AM EDT
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The Aim9 weighs almost 200lb and it's not small...

7/29/2015 9:09:04 AM EDT
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There was a ARPA program in the 1960s that looked at this idea.

Most of the details are still classified, but one image of the descent phase testing made onto the web a few years ago.

Descent Phase Test
7/29/2015 9:12:53 AM EDT
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I think its a safe assumption that you have never seen a rocket motor fired.  And definitely not been near one.  And don't even know that they can fail.
7/29/2015 9:21:20 AM EDT
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Rubber bands are cheaper and lighter than missiles.  Why not have each solder fill his pockets with a shit ton of rubber bands.  Then they can construct a giant slingshot and take turns launching each other back to base?

or..or....that canon guy at the circus.  Make a fully automated human projectile canon.  Aim the canon toward base with a little Kentucky windage and let'er rip.  Cue the soundtrack, "It's Raining Men" back at base to alert everyone of the arrivals

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7/29/2015 9:24:09 AM EDT
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7/29/2015 9:24:12 AM EDT
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I have a better idea.  Strap missiles to liberals and launch them into the sun.  It's just as feasible.
7/29/2015 9:25:28 AM EDT
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OP, please throw out the Betamax copy of rocketeer you're apparently rubbing it out to.



This is the dumbest fucking topic I have seen on this board in months. Trump threads are smarter than this. Replace the M4 with a mosin threads are smarter than this.



You should feel bad OP. You should contact every fucking public school teacher who ever let you spend a year drooling on yourself so that they know that they should feel fucking bad too.



Christ on a cupcake I hope you are never in charge of anything important. Ever.
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7/29/2015 9:25:29 AM EDT
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If every squad carried a hot air balloon, when danger is close they could assemble their balloon and exfil in style.  There's no need to carry fuel, burn local trash to heat the air in the envelope, and everyone can add their little Sterno blocks to help.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Fd2KzMW7QAa7PyXrdK_Lw10YU7HzrOt4KzLgqucfAy-cPa1E

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Or we could issue everyone Ruby Boots.  That way they could simply click their heels together three times while saying, "There's no place like FOB..."
7/29/2015 9:26:53 AM EDT
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Also safe to assume he's never carried a combat load on a 23 mile hump in the summer.

Also safe to assume he was NOT part of a crew served weapon team on those humps he never went on.

You want me to carry a full 3-day loadout, the barrel from a 50 cal, and half of Cpl. Susan Schmuckatelli's gear because "her shin splints are acting up," THEN you want to throw another 100+ pound missile on me so I can run away faster?
7/29/2015 9:28:14 AM EDT
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There was a ARPA program in the 1960s that looked at this idea.

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I thought everyone was slipping and I was going to get this in first.
7/29/2015 9:30:06 AM EDT
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Fuck that shit.

Use missiles, drones, and whatever else it takes to keep our guys in the fight with every possible advantage over the enemy. If our guys are in danger of being overrun, just negate the ROE for an hour, problem solved.
7/29/2015 9:30:14 AM EDT
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This is a serious question but why don't we use missiles as casevac or to fall back in the military?


Missiles don't weigh much once you take off the warhead and every soldier can carry one. Instead of waiting for extract, you can just find an open area or a roof and missile yourself back to the FOB. An AIM-9 sidewinder has a range of like 25 miles. Why can't this work for people?

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Do you even aerodynamic bro?
7/29/2015 9:31:15 AM EDT
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Or we could issue everyone Ruby Boots.  That way they could simply click their heels together three times while saying, "There's no place like FOB..."
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If every squad carried a hot air balloon, when danger is close they could assemble their balloon and exfil in style.  There's no need to carry fuel, burn local trash to heat the air in the envelope, and everyone can add their little Sterno blocks to help.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Fd2KzMW7QAa7PyXrdK_Lw10YU7HzrOt4KzLgqucfAy-cPa1E



Or we could issue everyone Ruby Boots.  That way they could simply click their heels together three times while saying, "There's no place like FOB..."


May I have 4 inch heels on mine?



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