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7/29/2015 4:16:33 AM EDT
Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?
7/29/2015 4:18:39 AM EDT
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Figures Oregon and Washington would have something fucked up as that.  

It maybe a good idea to have parents go through it but its none of the states fucking business.
7/29/2015 4:18:55 AM EDT
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Expecting in less than a month. We took a class, it was not mandatory.
7/29/2015 4:19:22 AM EDT
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The answer is, Kiss my ass you goddamned motherfucker.

Take a class on leaving me the fuck alone.
7/29/2015 4:20:37 AM EDT
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No shit.  Next they're going to make you take a class in order to vote.
7/29/2015 4:22:39 AM EDT
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For a brand new,first time expecting parents, i don't think it's a bad idea. But this guy already has a seven year old daughter. This is not his firs time down this road.
7/29/2015 4:24:33 AM EDT
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Again where does the gov get off telling you, you have to take a class in order to be a parent.  I'm sure my dad never took a class on how to raise a kid and he did a decent job.

How about your parents were they forced to take a class in order to raise you?
7/29/2015 4:24:48 AM EDT
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Just out of curiosity, does this mandatory class require payment, or is it offered for free?
7/29/2015 4:26:31 AM EDT
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This was my reaction as well. I think I would be in trouble if I was in the baby making stage in this day in age. I would have told them to fuck off. But that ship has sailed. I'm in grand pa mode now
7/29/2015 4:27:59 AM EDT
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There are tricks to it, things you should have learned a long time ago such as, if you leave milk out, it can go sour. Put it in the refrigerator, or, failing that, a cool, wet sack. And put your garbage in a garbage can, people. I can't stress that enough. Don't just throw it out the window.

This is so humiliating.

Garbage in garbage can. Hmm. Makes sense.



7/29/2015 4:29:03 AM EDT
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Parenting class is our parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles. Our family.

.gov can fuck off and die how to raise my kids.
7/29/2015 4:29:34 AM EDT
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There are tricks to it, things you should have learned a long time ago such as, if you leave milk out, it can go sour. Put it in the refrigerator, or, failing that, a cool, wet sack. And put your garbage in a garbage can, people. I can't stress that enough. Don't just throw it out the window.

This is so humiliating.

Garbage in garbage can. Hmm. Makes sense.



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THANK YOU!

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7/29/2015 4:31:19 AM EDT
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Again where does the gov get off telling you, you have to take a class in order to be a parent.  I'm sure my dad never took a class on how to raise a kid and he did a decent job.

How about your parents were they forced to take a class in order to raise you?
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For a brand new,first time expecting parents, i don't think it's a bad idea. But this guy already has a seven year old daughter. This is not his firs time down this road.


Again where does the gov get off telling you, you have to take a class in order to be a parent.  I'm sure my dad never took a class on how to raise a kid and he did a decent job.

How about your parents were they forced to take a class in order to raise you?



I am in total agreement with you. The fact that this guy has already had a kid makes it that much more redundant. I do not think it would be a bad idea for a young couple but I firmly believe that should be up to them. Who know,they might be getting all the "helpful" tips they need from all the grandparents involved  
7/29/2015 4:32:24 AM EDT
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Follow-up question. Does the hospital get to keep your kid until you take the class? Get a daily fine? What exactly are the repercussions of doing what many here are saying, with which I agree, and tell .gov to kiss your ass?
7/29/2015 4:34:14 AM EDT
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Did you know that babby isn't a human until it leaves the hospital?

That is the stated belief of FHRC.
7/29/2015 4:37:05 AM EDT
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Did you know that babby isn't a human until it leaves the hospital?

That is the stated belief of FHRC.
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Follow-up question. Does the hospital get to keep your kid until you take the class? Get a daily fine? What exactly are the repercussions of doing what many here are saying, with which I agree, and tell .gov to kiss your ass?


Did you know that babby isn't a human until it leaves the hospital?

That is the stated belief of FHRC.


If that is the case, I think I would be having my kids at home if at all possible
7/29/2015 4:37:10 AM EDT
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As much as I don't like it...I can see why it exists.

I have seen several women starve their baby and then just say "well, he won't eat...he throws up all the time"...or not understand that you have to change diapers when they are wet...or understand how to give a baby a bath and why you can't just leave them in the tub...or what to feed them...or how often...or that they can't regulate their own temp and need clothing/blankets...that smoking around them causes serious breathing issues (Kid has asthma attacks constantly)...or even something simple like not leaving them in their crib all day like it is a jail cell.

If I hadn't seen all those things and seen them from "normal" people...I would be more inclined to say this was stupid.  

People are not taught how to raise kids by their parents anymore.
7/29/2015 5:00:42 AM EDT
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It is a "good idea" to eat veggies, it is a good idea to take an umbrella in the rain, it is a good idea to check the oil in your car.  But in no way is it a "good idea" to make a law requiring any of these even of fat people or first time car owners.

We were all babies and grew up for better or worse.  That is qualification enough to be a parent.  If you care enough to have questions there is family, books, neighbors, strangers on the bus and a world wide web.  If you don't care enough to ask questions no class, or advice, or book, or law is going to make any difference.


Freedom is freedom folks..........
7/29/2015 5:08:55 AM EDT
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Bet OP's friend was told by the hospital it was mandatory.  Bet they tell everybody that.
7/29/2015 5:09:09 AM EDT
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There is no such law in Oregon. I highly doubt there is any such law in WA either.

If you guys knew half of what child services shrugs their shoulders and says "oh well" at, most of you would shed a tear.
7/29/2015 5:11:48 AM EDT
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Parenting classes are mandatory in TX if you are getting a divorce and children are involved.
Kind of bassackwards if you ask me.
7/29/2015 5:18:24 AM EDT
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.
7/29/2015 5:21:10 AM EDT
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.

You can leave AMA anytime you want under most circumstances.

However if you want treatment for your kid at their hospital, you have to follow their rules.
7/29/2015 5:21:46 AM EDT
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No shit.  Next they're going to make you take a class in order to vote.
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Take a class on leaving me the fuck alone.


No shit.  Next they're going to make you take a class in order to vote.


That would actually solve problems though, so doubtful
7/29/2015 5:22:45 AM EDT
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.


I popped that thing off and stuck it on my thumb to be funny.
7/29/2015 5:23:20 AM EDT
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That would actually solve problems though, so doubtful
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The answer is, Kiss my ass you goddamned motherfucker.

Take a class on leaving me the fuck alone.


No shit.  Next they're going to make you take a class in order to vote.


That would actually solve problems though, so doubtful


It probably would.  Freedom is a pain in the ass sometimes.
7/29/2015 5:25:48 AM EDT
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Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?
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My daughter is expecting next month.  There is no mandatory class for new parents here.

I, on the other hand, do have to take a mandatory Parenting Class.  My wife and I are acting as foster parents to our grandchild.  In order to be considered a foster parent (even to our own grandchild) we must complete the class within a year (mine is next October).
7/29/2015 5:26:44 AM EDT
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more liberal government  control
7/29/2015 5:26:48 AM EDT
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There may be more to the story...
7/29/2015 5:29:39 AM EDT
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.
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We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.


That's because there were too many babies that were stolen by people that just walked out with them.
7/29/2015 5:31:27 AM EDT
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Same thing in Arizona...
7/29/2015 5:31:55 AM EDT
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Bet it will take you all night to find the last instance of that happening in Washington state.
7/29/2015 5:34:41 AM EDT
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That's because there were too many babies that were stolen by people that just walked out with them.
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Bet OP's friend was told by the hospital it was mandatory.  Bet they tell everybody that.


We were in the hospital for a few days after mine was born.  Hospital put this little low jack looking device on his leg and told us we weren't allowed to leave the floor with him until we were discharged.  The day before we were discharged I wanted to go outside and get a bit of fresh air with him and my wife reminded me of the little thing on his leg and not being able to leave.  My next thought was what they hell would they do?  Call the police and tell them I kidnapped my own kid?  If I had gotten a call like that when I was working I would have laughed my ass off and hung up on them.


That's because there were too many babies that were stolen by people that just walked out with them.


I'm aware of that.  I was talking more about how the medical staff told us that we (as in the parents) were under no circumstances allowed to leave with our own child until they said it was ok.  Like it was illegal or something.  I understand the whole if I want medical treatment for my child kind of thing, but I'm talking about how they made it sound like we would be in trouble for leaving.
7/29/2015 5:37:45 AM EDT
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It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.

OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?

A lot of places require it, in fact.

https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx
7/29/2015 5:44:47 AM EDT
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How are they mandating this?

Is it through medical insurance?  Part of public education?  

What's the consequences if you say "Fuck you and your indoctrination!" Or if you ignore the classes completely?
7/29/2015 5:46:12 AM EDT
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Then the judge in your custody proceeding probably sanctions you.
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Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?
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7/29/2015 5:49:10 AM EDT
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It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.

OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?

A lot of places require it, in fact.

https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx
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Parenting classes are mandatory in TX if you are getting a divorce and children are involved.
Kind of bassackwards if you ask me.


It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.

OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?

A lot of places require it, in fact.

https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx


Yep.
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My daughter is expecting next month.  There is no mandatory class for new parents here.



I, on the other hand, do have to take a mandatory Parenting Class.  My wife and I are acting as foster parents to our grandchild.  In order to be considered a foster parent (even to our own grandchild) we must complete the class within a year (mine is next October).
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Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?




My daughter is expecting next month.  There is no mandatory class for new parents here.



I, on the other hand, do have to take a mandatory Parenting Class.  My wife and I are acting as foster parents to our grandchild.  In order to be considered a foster parent (even to our own grandchild) we must complete the class within a year (mine is next October).
Yeah court mandated classes are common for foster parents, neglectful parents etc but everyone? That's a fish story

 
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Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?


My daughter is expecting next month.  There is no mandatory class for new parents here.

I, on the other hand, do have to take a mandatory Parenting Class.  My wife and I are acting as foster parents to our grandchild.  In order to be considered a foster parent (even to our own grandchild) we must complete the class within a year (mine is next October).
Yeah court mandated classes are common for foster parents, neglectful parents etc but everyone? That's a fish story  


Its required for divorce proceedings in WA state.
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Bet it will take you all night to find the last instance of that happening in Washington state.
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Bet it will take you all night to find the last instance of that happening in Washington state.


Bet it won't.
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Parenting classes are mandatory in TX if you are getting a divorce and children are involved.

Kind of bassackwards if you ask me.




It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.



OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?



A lot of places require it, in fact.



https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx




Yep.
We had a judge who kept sending people off to some "parenting after separation" class, complete waste of time

 
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Just in a discussion with a friend on Facebook. Turns out he has to do mandatory parenting classes. And as I understand it, it is required of everyone expecting a new born. This is for Washington state. One of the other people in the discussion was from Oregon,and from what I understand,it's the same down there. I believe it is probably a good idea for newly expecting parents to go through a course like this,but mandatory? I think that's a bit much. So I guess the questions I have are, Is this true and if so how many other states require this?


My daughter is expecting next month.  There is no mandatory class for new parents here.

I, on the other hand, do have to take a mandatory Parenting Class.  My wife and I are acting as foster parents to our grandchild.  In order to be considered a foster parent (even to our own grandchild) we must complete the class within a year (mine is next October).
Yeah court mandated classes are common for foster parents, neglectful parents etc but everyone? That's a fish story  


I agree.  I think there's more to the story if The State says it mandatory.  
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It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.

OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?

A lot of places require it, in fact.

https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx
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Parenting classes are mandatory in TX if you are getting a divorce and children are involved.
Kind of bassackwards if you ask me.


It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.

OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?

A lot of places require it, in fact.

https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx



That's the thing. I asked specifically if the courts were involved in any way or was this something everyone had to do. The person in the discussion from Oregon said that it was in fact for everyone. My friend hadn't answered back yet but his initial post,he seemed puzzled as to why it was necessary      
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"I smacked the crap out of my kid in a Wal-Mart parking lot and now the judge says I have to do to some stupid mandatory parenting class"
7/29/2015 5:58:37 AM EDT
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We had a judge who kept sending people off to some "parenting after separation" class, complete waste of time  
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Parenting classes are mandatory in TX if you are getting a divorce and children are involved.

Kind of bassackwards if you ask me.




It's the same in Washington and Oregon too.



OP, is your friend going through custody hearings or a divorce by chance?



A lot of places require it, in fact.



https://www.divorcewriter.com/parent-education-class-divorce.aspx
Yep.
We had a judge who kept sending people off to some "parenting after separation" class, complete waste of time  


Sometimes some people need to be reminded not to call their ex-wife a stupid deranged cunt in front of their kids...I didn't need to go to a class to understand not to do that in front of my kids.



 
7/29/2015 5:59:14 AM EDT
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How about mandatory parenting classes for anyone on welfare?
7/29/2015 7:03:19 AM EDT
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Here in MO the hospital told us the parenting class was required. We looked into taking one, until we saw the ~$200 price tag and said no way. Before being discharged, one of the nurses asked us if we'd taken the class but didn't bat an eye when we told her no.

7/29/2015 7:05:22 AM EDT
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No class required in NH when we had our daughter 3 years ago and no class required in MA when we had our son 2 days ago.
7/29/2015 7:12:03 AM EDT
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That is a damn good idea.  It should be mandatory for every single elected official from local politicians all the way to POTUS.
7/29/2015 7:13:59 AM EDT
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how did past generations ever raise their children.....without .Gov interfering.
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