Posted: 7/24/2015 10:10:27 PM EDT
| I'm looking for options to modernize my home security by replacing older keyed locks with possible electronic locks. What are the positives/negatives? Best features? Brand? I see some offer wifi options and others sense mobile phone as fob. Options are expensive but I would like the option of the flexibility this new technology offers. Thoughts? |
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I'm looking for options to modernize my home security by replacing older keyed locks with possible electronic locks. What are the positives/negatives? Best features? Brand? I see some offer wifi options and others sense mobile phone as fob. Options are expensive but I would like the option of the flexibility this new technology offers. Thoughts? Samsung makes really nice ones. Randomized number pads, external power leads in case of failure, IR sensors so it knows what side of the door you're on to stop people reaching through a broken window, temp and single use codes. I like them a lot. |
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Lose your phone and have a thief walk right into your house. What could possibly go wrong with that? You'd have the same issue with keys. And you can disable your phone's access remotely from any computer on the Internet. Can't do that with keys. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Personally I would be hesitant.
Yes it is cool technology. But aside from the electronic factor, are you doing this for an actual increase in security? Or is this simply a convenience factor for you? Because if its for an increase in security, I'd be looking at beefing up the door frame, ground floor windows, etc |
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Never trust in electronic security. Why? have you not seen what happens to cars these days? thieves clone your remote and unlock your door and disable the alarm. they steal your shit but at least they dont break your window. all of the newer cars that are hooked up to the internet can also be hacked. not sure if you really want that for your home. i would rather have someone be forced to break the window to get in. at least it forces them to make noise too get in. hopefully someone hears it. |
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You'd have the same issue with keys. And you can disable your phone's access remotely from any computer on the Internet. Can't do that with keys. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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Lose your phone and have a thief walk right into your house. What could possibly go wrong with that? You'd have the same issue with keys. And you can disable your phone's access remotely from any computer on the Internet. Can't do that with keys. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. |
| I have a Kwikset electronic deadbolt lock on one of my doors--the one we go in and out most. It's been great. It's got a key and the keypad (no fancy bluetooth or phone integration). The only complaint I've had is that it doesn't have a button for each number. It would be slightly more secure that way, but honestly, nobody is going to brute force your door combination unless you're Fort Knox. It's my own fault because I wanted to go cheaper (I was buying new locksets for every door and they're expensive) and "test the waters" before jumping in with both feet. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably buy the fancy one with BT/phone integration. |
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We have a lot of those at work. Every time there is a power outage, you end up using a key to get in. Ok for work, home, no way would I do that. That's your work's failure for not having a good UPS system We have over 850 of these at my work, and are fast approaching the 1000 mark  The battery only ones are usually good for around a year worth of use (dorm rooms mostly, so plenty of in/out action), the wired ones are nearly foolproof. Now, I should disclose that this is a campus application, with everything being high end, run by master controllers, and networked so that we have full access and control at any time. My point is, though, that there is nothing wrong with electronic locks, but you do get what you pay for
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have you not seen what happens to cars these days? thieves clone your remote and unlock your door and disable the alarm. they steal your shit but at least they dont break your window. all of the newer cars that are hooked up to the internet can also be hacked. not sure if you really want that for your home. i would rather have someone be forced to break the window to get in. at least it forces them to make noise too get in. hopefully someone hears it. 99.9% of thieves don't know how to hack shit. That's mostly tech guys who demonstrate that it can be done. If they're smart enough to learn how to hack electronics, they can learn how to pick locks or make a bump key, right? |
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most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. Just checked, the only info you'll get off my phone without a pin is my own phone number. And who has their address in their own phone anyway? Do you really need to be reminded where you live? |
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Quoted: Quoted: most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. Just checked, the only info you'll get off my phone without a pin is my own phone number. And who has their address in their own phone anyway? Do you really need to be reminded where you live? Edit: haven't been around much lately. Just noticed the links getting added for products... weird. |
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Don't have any hands-on, but Kwikset makes an electronic deadbolt that locks and unlocks when it senses proximity to your smartphone (and you touch the lock). It also has a traditional key should you need it.
I've considered getting a couple, but don't really use my locks all that much anyway. |
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There isn't a company on the market that I would feel comfortable buying an electronic, consumer grade lock from just yet. They all scream "yet to be found critical flaws" to me. Plus, all the ones I saw were ugly.
Now if you're talking industrial grade RFID with retinal or something, different matter. |
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There isn't a company on the market that I would feel comfortable buying an electronic, consumer grade lock from just yet. They all scream "yet to be found critical flaws" to me. Plus, all the ones I saw were ugly. Now if you're talking industrial grade RFID with retinal or something, different matter. Some of these look pretty nice, IMO. http://www.samsungdigitallife.com/DigitalDoorLock.php |
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I dont need the reminder, but I have it in my GPS on my phone to try and optimize commute time. Quoted:
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most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. Just checked, the only info you'll get off my phone without a pin is my own phone number. And who has their address in their own phone anyway? Do you really need to be reminded where you live? Pro-tip: Use an intersection close to your house instead of your full address. |
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Who is going to go all ninja hacker on your electronic door lock to break into your home? Really? They are probably just going to either kick down your door or break a window.
When they broke into my brother's house they knocked on the front door and then proceeded to pry open his back window. Much easier and faster. I'm looking into electronic locks but haven't settled yet. |
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99.9% of thieves don't know how to hack shit. That's mostly tech guys who demonstrate that it can be done. If they're smart enough to learn how to hack electronics, they can learn how to pick locks or make a bump key, right? Quoted:
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have you not seen what happens to cars these days? thieves clone your remote and unlock your door and disable the alarm. they steal your shit but at least they dont break your window. all of the newer cars that are hooked up to the internet can also be hacked. not sure if you really want that for your home. i would rather have someone be forced to break the window to get in. at least it forces them to make noise too get in. hopefully someone hears it. 99.9% of thieves don't know how to hack shit. That's mostly tech guys who demonstrate that it can be done. If they're smart enough to learn how to hack electronics, they can learn how to pick locks or make a bump key, right? Or just kick a door in or break a window.... |
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Quoted: most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lose your phone and have a thief walk right into your house. What could possibly go wrong with that? You'd have the same issue with keys. And you can disable your phone's access remotely from any computer on the Internet. Can't do that with keys. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. You're not getting any of that from my phone either unless you know my passcode. |
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Just checked, the only info you'll get off my phone without a pin is my own phone number. And who has their address in their own phone anyway? Do you really need to be reminded where you live? Quoted:
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most people do not have there personal info or address on a set of keys. Just checked, the only info you'll get off my phone without a pin is my own phone number. And who has their address in their own phone anyway? Do you really need to be reminded where you live? Have you ever ordered pizza or anything online with your phone? Is it set up with auto complete? They can get your address that way. |
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Lose your phone and have a thief walk right into your house. What could possibly go wrong with that? Two factor or go home. Phone and pin, phone and fingerprint ... I have one that requires a PIN. a door isn't going to stop someone who wants to break in for very long anyway. |
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I have a rental cabin in North Georgia mountains. I was locked out of three Master lock boxes in six months. I was sure it was the children of the renters changing the code on me. I put in one of these Schlage key pads. Problem solved. It requires a six digit admin password to change the user code. It will store up to sixteen user codes. I have one four digit code I use for renters and another four digit code for the service people. I don't give renters a key anymore. Just a printed form with the current user code.
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I put these on my house: http://i.imgur.com/H5U5fSI.png the battery just controls the lock vs. not and you still have to turn the bolt manually. key works if the battery is dead. |
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I put these on my house: http://i.imgur.com/H5U5fSI.png the battery just controls the lock vs. not and you still have to turn the bolt manually. key works if the battery is dead. I have this. Works great. For some reason it stopped my roommate from 'accidentally' leaving the front door unlocked when she leaves. I think she's too dumb for keys. |
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I put these on my house: http://i.imgur.com/H5U5fSI.png the battery just controls the lock vs. not and you still have to turn the bolt manually. key works if the battery is dead. I have one of these on my garage, and four others around the house that are on the regular handle. Works great don't see a reason to go super fancy. |
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Quoted: I have one of these on my garage, and four others around the house that are on the regular handle. Works great don't see a reason to go super fancy. Quoted: Quoted: I put these on my house: http://i.imgur.com/H5U5fSI.png the battery just controls the lock vs. not and you still have to turn the bolt manually. key works if the battery is dead. I have one of these on my garage, and four others around the house that are on the regular handle. Works great don't see a reason to go super fancy. |