[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Police Gas Protestors in Albuquerque (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/20/2003 5:38:48 PM EDT
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At UNM, a bunch of college-age idiots are raising hell, blocking traffic, making asses of themselves, etc, etc.... ERT, K9, and SWAT are on-scene, and have popped pepper spray type gas. One kid went up and tried to kick the gas canister away. He ended up gagging and coughing his ass back to the sidewalk. The protestors ( aka jackass kids) are claiming that it is tear gas, it is not. If it was their asses would be out of there. I swear UNM produces some of the worst liberal idiots in the country!!!!! I have good friends on Alb. SWAT. May God watch over them tonight..... |
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You know, if they actually had a legitimate protest, I'd be pissed if the police peppered them. But, they don't. You're right. They are a bunch of in-crowd idiots. I think they should employ non-lethal shotgun rounds on the ones causing the destructive vandalism. Either that, or the property owners should defend their property with appropriate force. |
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Quoted: Yes, by all means, let us shoot our children with shotguns. It is the only way they will learn that freedom of expression in the abscence of violence will be punished, just as our forefathers intended. They're free to protest up till the point of infringing upon others rights. Once they cross that line, verbal orders are given. Refusal of these orders, combined with the riot mentality/activity, necessitate the use of force. All they gotta do is wear homemade riot armor (magazines worn around the torso, like a vest) to avoid the bean bags. Bring out the rock salt!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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OH, cry me a river..... If they physically threaten an officer they should be stopped. Obviouslt the "gas" is not stopping them. Would you rather they be stopped with lethal means??? They sure as hell aren't my children. My child would nevefr go to that damn liberal college. The regents at UNM literally encourage this crap to take place!!! Protesting is one thing. Destroying property, assaulting officers, and causing general mayhem are certainly different. They are not a form of freedom of expression. They forms of breaking the law!!! |
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Quoted: Yes, by all means, let us shoot our children with shotguns. It is the only way they will learn that freedom of expression in the[red] abscence of violence[/red] will be punished, just as our forefathers intended. Enhanced for those who move their lips as they read. They are our fellow citizens, as foolish as they are, and deserve as much respect as we would show any other mental incompetent. And yes, since they are OUR fellow citizens, and are really CHILDREN, then they are OUR CHILDREN in a greater, non-Hillary-Clinton-freaky-shit way. |
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Quoted: Yes, by all means, let us shoot our children with shotguns. It is the only way they will learn that freedom of expression in the abscence of violence will be punished, just as our forefathers intended. I also strongly belive in freedom of speech. I believe in the right to protest. But not when it gets violent which apparently it did in Albuquerque, and San Francisco. If you protest and you cross the line and start breaking the law, well my friend you get what you deserve. Protesting at a time like this in a VIOLENT,LAWLESS manner only exhaust our resources. The police who have to quell these IDIOTS need to be protecting our homeland right now and these IDIOTS are making that a little difficult right now. |
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I must disagree with the "our children" theory. These kids are 18, and over. They are legally adults. I am not worried about theri emotions, maturity, etc. It's sad that the adult demonstrators are fairly well-behaved, pro-war or not. It's the "our children" that are jerks. oh look, here's one of the goofball "children" on TV now, showing off his straberry froma bean-bag round!!!!! His quote, while showing the "mark" off: "Here's my tax dollars at work..." He's a full-time college kid that is out protesting when not at class!! How the heck is he paying tax dollars??? |
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Quoted: They are our fellow citizens, as foolish as they are, and deserve as much respect as we would show any other mental incompetent. And yes, since they are OUR fellow citizens, and are really CHILDREN, then they are OUR CHILDREN in a greater, non-Hillary-Clinton-freaky-shit way. Yes , they are citizens who are breaking the law that deserve to be treated like any other citizen who break the law. They deserve to have the silver bracelets placed on their wrists. If they resist, they deserve what they get because they made the choice to cross the line while they protested. I fully belive you have the right to LAWFULLY protest. They made the choice to cross the line. Now they will pay for it. |
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I did not know that things had gottne violent in NM with the protestors. In that case, Release the hounds! Quoted: Kids sitting on a sidewalk dont get gassed or shot. Liar liar pants on fire. The Seattle NWO riots were largely police instigated. I have seen the video tape and read the reports. I watched people sitting on the ground being shot repeatedly in the face from inches away with pepper pall from paintball guns. Right in the fucking eyes, man. Furthermore, when their own LEOs weren't turning out to have sufficient numbers they imported some goons to help out. They offloaded in a residential suburb a few miles from town where they were going to walk in. The LEOs decided it would be fun to gas people returning from work and little kids playing in their yards. Don't try to BS me. Cops are often willing to stir shit if they get the chance. It makes the job fun. |
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Now it is coming out that there were no problems until the anti-war kids decided to start shoving the pro-war folks. Sounds like gentle children to me!!! Myself, I feel sorry for the dogs. They don't have gas masks. And with their ultra-sensitive noses, they are being bombarded by "gas", and stinking college kids!!!! |
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Quoted: Hell yeah, things have gotten violent!!! I am watching footage on KOAT Channel 7 right now. These "children" are simply out of control!!! Sorry, I didn't know. I am at work, sick as a dog, and trying to avoid seeing patients. Haven't seen the news. If they are breaking the law, go get them. I always wonder how they go from peace protestor to violent asshole. Are their thought processes so deranged they can't understand that actions and words are related? |
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Quoted: I did not know that things had gottne violent in NM with the protestors. In that case, Release the hounds! Quoted: Kids sitting on a sidewalk dont get gassed or shot. Liar liar pants on fire. The Seattle NWO riots were largely police instigated. I have seen the video tape and read the reports. I watched people sitting on the ground being shot repeatedly in the face from inches away with pepper pall from paintball guns. Right in the fucking eyes, man. Furthermore, when their own LEOs weren't turning out to have sufficient numbers they imported some goons to help out. They offloaded in a residential suburb a few miles from town where they were going to walk in. The LEOs decided it would be fun to gas people returning from work and little kids playing in their yards. Don't try to BS me. Cops are often willing to stir shit if they get the chance. It makes the job fun. Mr Green, If I remember correctly, you have a real problem with law enforcement in general. You stirred the pot a few months ago on a thread about the family dog that had been shot in Tennessee. I personally think that the cops may have made some mistakes in that situation. but you were unreasonable about it. If I am not correct please let me know sir. |
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Quoted: "Seeing patient"??? You are a health-care worker?? AKA a doctor or nurse?? God bless the APD Swat team.... Thats what he claims, at least he did on previous posts he hijacked. If the world had more people like him, well everything would be just "peachy". Maybe he's a UNM Alumni? |
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Quoted: Mr Green, If I remember correctly, you have a real problem with law enforcement in general. It would be fair to state that my experiences as a LEO led me to have a distaste for many in the profession. I have never had a problem with decent guys who carry a badge, but I have met some serious lowlifes in my time who were driving a Crown Vic. You stirred the pot a few months ago on a thread about the family dog that had been shot in Tennessee. I personally think that the cops may have made some mistakes in that situation. but you were unreasonable about it. If I am not correct please let me know sir. I will admit a certain predilliction for vigorous composting on occasision, so I did a search. Not here: [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=163665&page=9[/url] And not here: [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=169642&w=searchPop[/url] Not here: [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=76&t=164063&w=searchPop[/url] Not here either: [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=163990&page=4[/url] There were 139 dog topics in the last 6 months. I looked athe biggest ones of the TN incident. I don't remember stirring the poop, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Do a search and let me know. I think I pretty much stayed out of that one. |
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Quoted: Mr. Green, Glad to see your felling better now. I don't have the time to waste on folks like you anymore sir. So continue to waste your time and have fun amusing yourself. Good Day Mr. Green went postal in a reply to a post of mine a while back. I would have never guessed he was an MD by the language, slang, cursing, etc that he used in his post. I couldn't find that thread the day after that happened. I assume it was deleted due to the outbursts. I won't say that I didn't throw a punch or two, but I was stunned at his psychotic outburst. Doesn't surprize me that he would cast a skeptical eye toward LE before suspecting those 'poor innocent little children exercizing their right to free speech'. No doubt you'll see plenty of his totally free type of speech now in response to my post... |
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Quoted: At UNM, a bunch of college-age idiots are raising hell, blocking traffic, making asses of themselves, etc, etc.... ERT, K9, and SWAT are on-scene, and have popped pepper spray type gas. One kid went up and tried to kick the gas canister away. He ended up gagging and coughing his ass back to the sidewalk. The protestors ( aka jackass kids) are claiming that it is tear gas, it is not. If it was their asses would be out of there. I swear UNM produces some of the worst liberal idiots in the country!!!!! I have good friends on Alb. SWAT. May God watch over them tonight..... |
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Quoted: Mr. Green went postal in a reply to a post of mine a while back. I would have never guessed he was an MD by the language, slang, cursing, etc that he used in his post. I couldn't find that thread the day after that happened. I assume it was deleted due to the outbursts. I won't say that I didn't throw a punch or two, but I was stunned at his psychotic outburst. Doesn't surprize me that he would cast a skeptical eye toward LE before suspecting those 'poor innocent little children exercizing their right to free speech'. No doubt you'll see plenty of his totally free type of speech now in response to my post... #1. Which thread would that be? #2. My profession does not define me. #3. I am ever so sorry I hurt you with my words. [banana][banana][banana][banana][banana] No, really. |
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I am an MD. Deal with it dude. Yeah? My sister is an MD and a lawyer as well. BFD. Having been a LEO myself, as well as performing domestic covert ops, I can tell you that the infinitesimal minority of LEOs are jerks. The vast majority are honorable professionals who do their work, with little or no thanks, for a strong ethical committment to our country and society in general. I'm not sure where you derive your opinion, but I suspect you've been arrested once too often. That might not be the case, but from my own experience, the people who rant against LEOs the most, have the most to lose. Just a thot. We all have the right to voice our opinion in a lawful manner. Once that goes over the edge though, chaos gains a foothold. We are a nation of order, not chaos. Thats why we're a free society. They break the law, they pay the price. Don't cuddle criminals. Thats what the Entitlement Mentality of Kalifornia relishes. |
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Quoted: Yeah? My sister is an MD and a lawyer as well. BFD. Good and evil in the same package. Hmmm. Having been a LEO myself, as well as performing domestic covert ops, ???? WTF is that? Care to elaborate? I can tell you that the infinitesimal minority of LEOs are jerks. Uhh, no. It is a minority, but it is a significant one. The rest just want to do their thing and go home at the end of each day. The vast majority are honorable professionals who do their work, with little or no thanks, I get thanked for what I do about zero times a day. BFD. And guess what, I actually help people, unlike most LEOs who just claim to. for a strong ethical committment to our country and society in general. I'm not sure where you derive your opinion, but I suspect you've been arrested once too often. I wore the uniform, that is where it comes from. Try reading the whole thread every once in a while. It will keep you from appearing so foolish. Strange how a trained observer involved in "domestic covert ops" could miss that. That might not be the case, but from my own experience, the people who rant against LEOs the most, have the most to lose. These days whenever you have dealings with a cop, from the moment you first speak to him until the moment he is gone, your life, finances, and and health are all in serious jepordy. I think that is a lot for anyone to lose. Just a thot. And those three neurons are redlining, baby. We all have the right to voice our opinion in a lawful manner. Once that goes over the edge though, chaos gains a foothold. We are a nation of order, not chaos. Thats why we're a free society. They break the law, they pay the price. Don't cuddle criminals. Thats what the Entitlement Mentality of Kalifornia relishes. |
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SG, you remind me of that TV doctor played by the commie Ted Danson -- you know, Becker? Always smug and smartass. I bow to your genius and overwhelming life experience and wisdom. In the thread I referred to (it was regarding support of Bush), you claimed to have spent ten years in military service. And now I see that it appears you were in LE? And also a doctor? In the next thread we have about the space shuttle are you going to tell us about your astronaut experience? You may indeed have all the experience you claim to have, but it smells fishy to me. Anyways... You are obviously one happy, well-adjusted person. Live long and prosper. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Having been a LEO myself, as well as performing domestic covert ops, ???? WTF is that? Care to elaborate? I think domestic covert ops is when a divorce attorney hires you to surveil the cheating spouse to gain leverage for the divorce settlement. -Nick Viejo. |
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Quoted: Having been a LEO myself, as well as performing domestic covert ops, ???? WTF is that? Care to elaborate? Sure. Civilians aren't restricted the same way that government is. Check it out on the web. I bet you can hire a covert op of your very own tomorrow. Here's a clue. Look up "Private Detective". This catagory covers a whole lot of distance. It can be as simple as the ugly divorce, or it can be rather more sophisticated. Just check it out if you don't believe me. Its a pretty big business in our country. Uhh, no. It is a minority, but it is a significant one. The rest just want to do their thing and go home at the end of each day. Huh. That sounds pretty damned empirical for a Scientist like yourself. Care to provide some sources for that statement? Just curious. I get thanked for what I do about zero times a day. BFD. And guess what, I actually help people, unlike most LEOs who just claim to. Bullshit. Name me one other profession where you get called by your occupation, then your name. People cuddle MDs... Nobody walks up to me and says, "Senior Systems Analyst Duckdawg, could you look at this for me?". How about we start cuddling plumbers, "Excuse me, Master Plumber Rodney...." You people are babies. It may start out that way for some, but it becomes a gig like any other after a while. Well, we can see it did for you, anyway. Too bad you had such a bad experience. Why don't you talk about it? Maybe you'll feel better. By the way, we have an opening in Anger Management next Thursday... I wore the uniform, that is where it comes from. Try reading the whole thread every once in a while. It will keep you from appearing so foolish. Opps! You lose! Name calling is the absolute most blatant sign that you don't know what to say. I'm disapointed. You were doing so well. These days whenever you have dealings with a cop, from the moment you first speak to him until the moment he is gone, your life, finances, and and health are all in serious jepordy. No! Dude! I hear you! Mulder and Skully told me the same thing! (readjusting tin foil so the trilateral commission can't read thoughts) And those three neurons are redlining, baby. Just not having a good night, are ya. Must be those 29 hour shifts you slaves have to work. Next time you want to debate something, get some sleep. You might be able to stick to the topic at hand instead of resorting to pugnacious drivel. Hey! What do you know! We agree. Amen, doc! |
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Quoted: The Seattle NWO riots were largely police instigated. I have seen the video tape and read the reports. I watched people sitting on the ground being shot repeatedly in the face from inches away with pepper pall from paintball guns. Right in the fucking eyes, man. Furthermore, when their own LEOs weren't turning out to have sufficient numbers they imported some goons to help out. They offloaded in a residential suburb a few miles from town where they were going to walk in. The LEOs decided it would be fun to gas people returning from work and little kids playing in their yards. You are quite simply WRONG! Pepperballs to eyes? Marching in from a few miles away gassing people enroute? I'm sure the PD were really the ones smashing in business on the streets. And it was WTO not NWO. You are WRONG! |
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Back to topic... The last protest the protesters were allowed to wander through halls, disrupt classes, and blocked traffic on Cental Ave for almost an hour. When APD decided they had enough they called UNM for permission to disperse the croud, which they needed because the crowd was on UNM property. It took over 40 min for the various vise presidents to decided to do something. I cannot speak for the regeants, but the Administration is severly messed up. pat |
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Quoted: You are quite simply WRONG! Pepperballs to eyes? Marching in from a few miles away gassing people enroute? I'm sure the PD were really the ones smashing in business on the streets. And it was WTO not NWO. You are WRONG! I dunno, I spoke with a guy who witnessed the riots and shit first hand. He said the cops were pepper-spraying people left and right, with no regard to who the people were or what they were doing. They were having lots of fun until they sprayed some hotshot lawyer woman in her car driving home from work. Now there's a big lawsuit. Maybe you know of this lawsuit, since you're in Seattle? -Nick Viejo. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Domestic covert ops sounds like gestapo to me....Sorry just messin with ya [;)] (mall ninja) [;)] Now THAT is humor!! BTW, Seems like a good time/place to post that pic with the LEO with the riot helmet that says "if you can read this, you are about to get your ass kicked" or something to that effect....anyone got it? |
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Back on Halloween there was a riot nearby. I wasn't there. Almost immediatley after there were people complaining they had been "gassed" or roughed up for no reason. One of them, on the news said, I was just walking home from a friends house, and got gassed before I could get home. Oh by the way I have videotape of the police brutality. They showed some film. The media was "eating it up". How many of you videotape yourself walking home from a friends house? Think about that for just a second. The person in the video was also not "non-confrontational" as he would have liked the audience to believe. He worked his way to the front of thae crowd that was on a street, that was closed to vehicle traffic, and blocked for foot traffic at one end. He got to the blocked end and started pushing against the barricades, and trying to get past the police. Of course that didn't matter the stor was about police brutality and random "gassing" of citizens. Next day the store owners in the area were on the news. They were talking about the property damage, and lost merchandise. They also released video of the "peaceful crowds" that claimed to have been gassed for no reason. The video recorded behavior that could not be honestly described as peaceful. People have a Right to Freedom of Speach. The don't have the Right to damage other people's property, engage in riotous, or threatening behavior, or disrupt other people's Right to go about their business. Unfortunatley many "protesters" don't care about their effect on other people. Nor do they have the maturity not to fall into a "mob mentality". They also aren't smart enough to realize what the effect of the behavior is, beofre during, or after the event. |
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Quoted: Yes, by all means, let us shoot our children with shotguns. It is the only way they will learn that freedom of expression in the abscence of violence will be punished, just as our forefathers intended. Pot, kettle, black...look who's preaching about not reading the post. Quoted: I think they should employ non-lethal shotgun rounds on [red]the ones causing the destructive vandalism[/red]. Either that, or the [red]property owners should defend their property[/red] with appropriate force. |
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Welcome to some combination of Brave New World, and 1984. Boohoo. Some people didn't get home in time to watch "Friends", had to sit in a traffic jam, and had a late supper. Big deal. In Portland it was demonstrated the the local LEO's only had half a clue how to control multiple moving groups of people, both mounted (bicycles) and on foot. Look at it as an exercise for the future. Plain and simple. Shit happens. People who do property damage should be arrested. Police who brutalize protests should come to justice. It's a rough world, and the lines get blurred. I wonder if ol Osama is smiling right now knowing that America is fighting amongst itself. I saw halfway organized protestors today rush a line of riot cops on the steel bridge in portland, they had 2 make shift shields and almost broke the police line. They were not prepared to be peppered though. The police use of mobilized tactics is poor when it comes to combating bicyles in the hundreds. OK for combating and controling crowds. It's pretty obvious around here that if every one of those 'peaceful' protests had picked up a stick, or a rock, it would be the L.A. riots all over again, and the police are poorly trained to handle such a movement. They better fet their 'domestic covert ops' up to spec a little better before they try and combat multiple groups of hundreds of people set on disrupting the indrastructure en masse. Regardless of any opinion of mine, or yours or anyone elses, an observation of tactics should be taking place by all of us. How our local governments respond to these types of things may someday effect US. Not just someone that we don't agree with, but someday it might be US that someone else doesn't agree with. My Kindest Regards to you all from Portland, -Full_Spectrum My fullest regards also to people who have had property damaged, or have been harrassed by police by simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
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Quoted: Domestic covert ops sounds like gestapo to me....Sorry just messin with ya [;)] Wait, I've got it now. Domestic Covert Ops, it was something like "sneak the new AR-15 past the wife". Also known as Operation Safe-Filler. It required [peep] Then [flag] If detected it could lead to [pissed], [nono], [cuss], and certainly no [sex] for you. If you are succesful [banana] Followed by [sniper2] the next time you go to the range. You know the rewards, ridks, and the area the op will occur in, are you ready? [thinking] [;)] |
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Operation Safe Filler!!! BWAA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!! Been there, done that!!!!! Hoping to do it again soon..... LC609, It was the regents who let the kids protest in the halls a few weeks ago. Disrupting classes, and bothering kida that actually wanted to go to class and try to learn something that day!!! |
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Quoted: As the Offically appointed spelling nazi I must point out that Mr Green Jeans has no right, what so ever, to make fun of people who cannot spell. Just ask him to spell "abscence".[:P] "Thot" was a purposeful modification of "thought". Its there for effect. [:P] |