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7/10/2015 4:46:48 PM EDT
I searched and didn't see anything.

Flaw in FBI Background Checks

"Officials did not fully describe the flaw that allowed Roof to get his hands on the weapon despite the fact that he previously admitted to drug possession, a charge that that should have barred him from making the purchase.

The FBI’s admission contradicts its previous claims that Roof obtained the weapon legally."
7/10/2015 4:47:08 PM EDT
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yeah, we know
7/10/2015 4:48:07 PM EDT
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More reason we need Expanded Universal Background Checks

To keep guns out of criminals' hands.
7/10/2015 4:48:19 PM EDT
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7/10/2015 4:48:36 PM EDT
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Whoever bought the gun for him should do 10 years if it was a relative. This will be spun however those in charge want it to be spun.
7/10/2015 4:49:23 PM EDT
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What a coincidence. (Eye roll)

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7/10/2015 4:50:28 PM EDT
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Roll em
7/10/2015 4:52:46 PM EDT
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Since when does previous drug possession bar you from purchasing a gun?

Where is that question on the Form 4473?

Nevermind, read the other linked story. I didn't realize he was awaiting felony charges.

"Woops" - FBI
7/10/2015 4:53:30 PM EDT
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He bought it himself.

 



He filled out the forms.




Some of the money came as a birthday gift, but nobody "bought" it for him.
7/10/2015 4:54:01 PM EDT
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Dupe.
7/10/2015 4:54:13 PM EDT
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5th thread today on this.

Good job, OP.
7/10/2015 4:54:48 PM EDT
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To keep guns out of criminals' hands.
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7/10/2015 4:56:33 PM EDT
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I think they are trying to go with 11e.
7/10/2015 4:56:39 PM EDT
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Are you addicted to or an illegal user of...  



I posted the law and regulation in the other threads.




(g) It shall be unlawful for any person—
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(3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));
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to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

And what the ATF determines to be addicted to or unlawful user.

"A person who uses a controlled substance and has lost the power
of self-control with reference to the use of controlled substance; and
any person who is a current user of a controlled substance in a man-
ner other than as prescribed by a licensed physician. Such use is not
limited to the use of drugs on a particular day, or within a matter or
days or weeks before, but rather that the unlawful use has occurred
recently enough to indicate that the individual is actively engaged in
such conduct. A person may be an unlawful current user of a con-
trolled substance even though the substance is not being used at the
precise time the person seeks to acquire a firearm or receives or
possesses a firearm. An inference of current use may be drawn from
evidence of a recent use or possession of a controlled substance or
a pattern of use or possession that reasonably covers the present
time, e.g. a conviction for use or possession of a controlled substance
within the past year; multiple arrests for such offenses within the past
five years if the most recent arrest occurred within the past year; or
persons found through a drug test to use a controlled substance
unlawfully, provided that the test was administered within the past
year. For a current or former member of the Armed Forces, an inference
of current use may be drawn from recent disciplinary or other adminis-
trative action based on confirmed drug use, e.g. court martial convic-
tion, nonjudicial punishment, or an administrative discharge based on
drug use or drug rehabilitation failure." 27 CFR Section 478.1 1.
7/10/2015 4:57:34 PM EDT
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Not again, how many background checks did they do and how did they all fail?
7/10/2015 4:57:58 PM EDT
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11e says if you are a drug addict or user and 11c says if you are a felon or have been convicted of a crime where the sentence is a year or more whether you served all the time or not.



 
7/10/2015 5:06:56 PM EDT
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< I can't fucking read >
7/10/2015 5:18:05 PM EDT
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11e says if you are a drug addict or user and 11c says if you are a felon or have been convicted of a crime where the sentence is a year or more whether you served all the time or not.
 
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11e says if you are a drug addict or user and 11c says if you are a felon or have been convicted of a crime where the sentence is a year or more whether you served all the time or not.
 


There is also this in 922.

(n) It shall be unlawful for any person who is under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm or ammunition or receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.
7/10/2015 5:23:46 PM EDT
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It isn't like they make this shit easy. They hide all the different laws and regulations in giant walls of text and put them in different places. Then they expect people to follow these practically hidden laws and regulations to letter or go to prison.

How many people know that being employed by a prohibited person it is illegal to possess a firearm in the course of such employment?

(h) It shall be unlawful for any individual, who to that individual’s knowledge and while being employed for any person described in any paragraph of subsection (g) of this section, in the course of such employment—  
(1) to receive, possess, or transport any firearm or ammunition in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce; or  

(2) to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

How many well known felon celebrities employ armed body guards?
7/10/2015 7:43:33 PM EDT
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He bought the gun himself.  The FBI is admitting that NICS failed.
7/10/2015 7:50:57 PM EDT
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He bought the gun himself.  The FBI is admitting that NICS failed.
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He bought the gun himself.  The FBI is admitting that NICS failed.



They admitted that the OP's Search failed as well.
7/10/2015 7:57:02 PM EDT
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IBTL
7/10/2015 8:01:09 PM EDT
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It was the confederate flag that allowed him to pass the background check.

Ban the flag, oh wait