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6/10/2015 3:17:49 PM EDT
My brother has asked to borrow my NFA registered SBR for a upcoming hunt in another state. I told him I didn't think it was allowed even if in the same state. I asked my local police department and they deferred to the ATF. I have left several voice mails over the past few weeks but have still not heard back. Can anyone definitively tell me that it IS allowed? If not I will not take the chance. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
6/10/2015 3:18:48 PM EDT
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Not unless it was done on a trust, and he is on that trust.
6/10/2015 3:19:24 PM EDT
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This.
6/10/2015 3:19:34 PM EDT
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6/10/2015 3:19:57 PM EDT
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6/10/2015 3:20:52 PM EDT
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Thats what I thought. Thank you again folks. Best place on the net for no BS answers.
6/10/2015 3:21:34 PM EDT
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FPNI

Unless the rifle is in a trust where both you and he are trustees, it's a no go.

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You're new here arent you?
6/10/2015 3:21:38 PM EDT
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You really need to read up on NFA law if you are going to own NFA controlled items.



The answer is NO! That would be considered an illegal transfer. The only way for you to "share" w/o being with the gun is for him to be on a trust or corporation that owns it or an employee of a FFL that owns it.





I suggest you get informed about NFA law before your dog is dead and you are in prision.
6/10/2015 3:22:37 PM EDT
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I wouldn't go that far...
6/10/2015 3:26:32 PM EDT
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Just found this on the BATFE website under FAQ...

What can happen to someone who has an NFA firearm which is not registered to him?

Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself.

[49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861 and 5872]
6/10/2015 3:43:30 PM EDT
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Medical,relationship and Nfa answers are the specialty of gd.
6/10/2015 3:45:46 PM EDT
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I wouldn't go that far...






The answers are correct but it's still GD
6/10/2015 3:46:18 PM EDT
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No BS answers?


6/10/2015 3:48:05 PM EDT
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You would have to fill out a form to carry your SBR across state lines as well.... and as others said, no brother unless he also owns it.
6/10/2015 3:52:02 PM EDT
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6/10/2015 3:52:35 PM EDT
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It would be perfectly legal if you and your brother were conjoined twins.  Are you?

If so, you will have no issues.  
Make sure you double check that the other state is SBR friendly. Also, remember to get your permission slip from the ATF 72 days in advance and get the $60 Transportation License (most are only valid for 7 days, so if you'll be gone longer than that, it will be $120 total for 2 weeks).


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6/10/2015 4:15:02 PM EDT
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It would be perfectly legal if you and your brother were conjoined twins.  Are you?



If so, you will have no issues.  

Make sure you double check that the other state is SBR friendly. Also, remember to get your permission slip from the ATF 72 days in advance and get the $60 Transportation License (most are only valid for 7 days, so if you'll be gone longer than that, it will be $120 total for 2 weeks).





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$60 transportation fee?

 
6/10/2015 4:19:29 PM EDT
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It would be perfectly legal if you and your brother were conjoined twins.  Are you?

If so, you will have no issues.  
Make sure you double check that the other state is SBR friendly. Also, remember to get your permission slip from the ATF 72 days in advance and get the $60 Transportation License (most are only valid for 7 days, so if you'll be gone longer than that, it will be $120 total for 2 weeks).


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wut.
6/10/2015 4:21:27 PM EDT
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Pretty sure he is being sarcastic...
6/10/2015 4:23:42 PM EDT
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It would be perfectly legal if you and your brother were conjoined twins.  Are you?

If so, you will have no issues.  
Make sure you double check that the other state is SBR friendly. Also, remember to get your permission slip from the ATF 72 days in advance and get the $60 Transportation License (most are only valid for 7 days, so if you'll be gone longer than that, it will be $120 total for 2 weeks).


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wut.


There was a staggering lack of BS answers in this thread.  I fixed that.
6/10/2015 4:24:24 PM EDT
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It would be perfectly legal if you and your brother were conjoined twins.  Are you?

If so, you will have no issues.  
Make sure you double check that the other state is SBR friendly. Also, remember to get your permission slip from the ATF 72 days in advance and get the $60 Transportation License (most are only valid for 7 days, so if you'll be gone longer than that, it will be $120 total for 2 weeks).


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$60 transportation fee?  


Sorry, should have said "$60/week".
6/10/2015 4:25:13 PM EDT
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poke here for SBR interstate


"FOPA 86 it the federal law that controls transport through other states. It specifies how to secure the gun during transport. Some states, notoriously NY and NJ have violated FOPA and have put people in jail. You trip must be uninterrupted.

A 5320.20 gives you permission to transport interstate but does not provide any special authority to do so. If executed correctly a 5320.20 should provide proof that the gun is possessed legally in the state of origin and destination which is the primary requirement of FOPA."
6/10/2015 4:34:03 PM EDT
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Poke here too
6/10/2015 4:37:18 PM EDT
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Or corporation.  If he was an officer or employee of the corporation that  held the NFA item it would be equally legit.  

And even then you have a form to file with ATF to take it out of state.
6/10/2015 4:42:39 PM EDT
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My brother has asked to borrow my NFA registered SBR for a upcoming hunt in another state. I told him I didn't think it was allowed even if in the same state. I asked my local police department and they deferred to the ATF. I have left several voice mails over the past few weeks but have still not heard back. Can anyone definitively tell me that it IS allowed? If not I will not take the chance. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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The last person to ask a legal question is a cop.

The last person to ask about federal law is a local cop.

You haven't heard back from the ATF because they're probably still trying to figure out whether or not you're trolling them.

The answer is OH FUCK NO.
6/10/2015 4:43:54 PM EDT
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6/10/2015 6:14:56 PM EDT
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Trust and files a 5230.20 and get it approved first.