Posted: 6/4/2015 12:46:43 AM EDT
| I recently have came in the possession of an Arisaka rifle. I know nothing about it apparently was ww2 bring back…. but everyone has herd that one before. Was wondering if the hive can point me in the right direction to learn about it. I know that pics would be helpful however Im not sure how to post them. Any help would be appreciated |
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I recently have came in the possession of an Arisaka rifle. I know nothing about it apparently was ww2 bring back…. but everyone has herd that one before. Was wondering if the hive can point me in the right direction to learn about it. I know that pics would be helpful however Im not sure how to post them. Any help would be appreciated Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. |
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Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. Quoted:
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I recently have came in the possession of an Arisaka rifle. I know nothing about it apparently was ww2 bring back…. but everyone has herd that one before. Was wondering if the hive can point me in the right direction to learn about it. I know that pics would be helpful however Im not sure how to post them. Any help would be appreciated Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. 35 Remington is close enough to form 6.5x50mm. |
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I recently have came in the possession of an Arisaka rifle. I know nothing about it apparently was ww2 bring back…. but everyone has herd that one before. Was wondering if the hive can point me in the right direction to learn about it. I know that pics would be helpful however Im not sure how to post them. Any help would be appreciated Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. 35 Remington is close enough to form 6.5x50mm. Good to know. Now maybe I'll buy a 6.5. Funny though, with next to nothing for ammo availability Arisakas are approaching modern commercial rifles in price. I want the one my mother in law has though. Poor condition from spending 30 years in a barn, but brought home by her dad. They haven't found any capture papers stashed away but we know the name of the person who brought it back. She was shocked when I told her the bayonet is worth about as much as the rifle though. |
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Pics please. Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ |
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Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ Quoted:
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Pics please. Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ I'm fairly certain that's a Type 38. Those are chambered in 6.5x50 Japanese. Ammo ain't cheap, but it's out there- http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164? I know Hornaday makes some, too. |
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I'm fairly certain that's a Type 38. Those are chambered in 6.5x50 Japanese. Ammo ain't cheap, but it's out there- http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164? I know Hornaday makes some, too. Quoted:
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Pics please. Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ I'm fairly certain that's a Type 38. Those are chambered in 6.5x50 Japanese. Ammo ain't cheap, but it's out there- http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164? I know Hornaday makes some, too. Yep. T38. Cool rifle. I have my grandpa's bring back, with Navy letter, T99. I got to take him to shoot it with me before he died.  From hearing him talk, he said it was amazing that any of these made it back. There were literally piles of them on the ships that were just dumped in the ocean after the surrender.
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Quoted: Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ don't know why you pasted it twice, so I removed the extra to make this link work. Quoted: Quoted: Pics please. Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ don't know why you pasted it twice, so I removed the extra to make this link work. Nice garden. |
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg I unfortunately do not have the bayonet |
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles |
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HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles Quoted:
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles You know, the original length M1903/M1 Garand bayonet had a 16" blade right? 
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HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles Quoted:
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles Haven't seen a P'07, have you? 
Amusingly, the P'07 bayonet is as long as it is because the British infantry complained that the 10" long P'03 was too short to unseat cavalry with. 16" bayonets were fairly standard for rifles designed around this time. |
We issued real sword bayonets.
Awe fuck it here is the link. http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7832/9386730_1.jpg?v=8CCABB7832E1EC0 1) M1855 Sword bayonet for M1841 rifle, 22 1/4" unmarked single fuller blade with a thumbscrew lock in the collar. 2) M1863 Remington bayonet, 20" blade, "C" stamped on the left ricasso and right guard, and "B.H." behind the collar. 3) Unidentified bayonet wirh Yataghan pattern blade, 21 1/2" single fuller blade, mounting hardware absent. 4) U.S. Ames Sword Co. marked bayonet for U.S. Navy M1870 rifle. 20" straight single fuller blade with scale pattern grips and crossed cannon marks on the pommel. 5) Spencer M1863 Navy rifle bayonet with 23 5/8" double fuller straight blade, with a small proof on the right ricasso, iron guard, mounting hardware absent. 6) S&K marked bayonet, for Colt revolving rifle with 22 5/8" single fuller yataghan blade with makers mark on the left ricasso, and iron guard. |
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The Jap rifles are neat and addictive. I had a collection awhile back.
If you are looking for original ammo to go with them and if you end up with a 99 be aware the Japanese had 3 different 7.7 rounds. 1 for the rifles and 2 for machineguns. The machinegun ammo will not chamber in the 99. Talk about a logistics nightmare. |
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I picked up a "sporterized" Type 38 recently. Really a light, handy little rifle. Luckily, it wasn't butchered. It has a nice sporter stock, and the only thing done to the metal was bending the bolt handle. It even still has the mum!
The Arisaka actions are super strong. |
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Yep. T38. Cool rifle. I have my grandpa's bring back, with Navy letter, T99. I got to take him to shoot it with me before he died. From hearing him talk, he said it was amazing that any of these made it back. There were literally piles of them on the ships that were just dumped in the ocean after the surrender.
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Pics please. Im not sure if I know how to upload but heres a shot.http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Gbwarrior36/slideshow/ I'm fairly certain that's a Type 38. Those are chambered in 6.5x50 Japanese. Ammo ain't cheap, but it's out there- http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164? I know Hornaday makes some, too. Yep. T38. Cool rifle. I have my grandpa's bring back, with Navy letter, T99. I got to take him to shoot it with me before he died. From hearing him talk, he said it was amazing that any of these made it back. There were literally piles of them on the ships that were just dumped in the ocean after the surrender.
My Dad was ord on Okinawa at the end of the war (tank mechanic - 82nd Ord Co HMT). After the war he was put on a detail that went out to neighboring islands to take inventory of surrendered Japanese material. Everything from samurai swords to artillery shells, apparently. They did load stuff up in barges, take them out in the ocean & literally throw the stuff overboard. He said most of the time it would be just him with a .45, a Japanese soldier who spoke English for an interpreter & whole bunch of Japanese soldiers doing the work. He said they could have over ran him at any point. Among some other things, he sent home a then brand new 7.7 rifle in a box that he made, in the mail. Of we still have the rifle but also the box he sent it in, with my grandfathers address on it. Dad said he & his brothers shot it a few times after he got home, but I've never shot it. Read somewhere one time that the rifles made late in the war had very poor quality metal in them & weren't safe to shoot... |
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Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. Quoted:
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I recently have came in the possession of an Arisaka rifle. I know nothing about it apparently was ww2 bring back…. but everyone has herd that one before. Was wondering if the hive can point me in the right direction to learn about it. I know that pics would be helpful however Im not sure how to post them. Any help would be appreciated Arisakas are one of the few where "WWII bring back" is more likely true than not. I don't think they were ever commercially imported. In 1995 I bought the nicest one I've ever seen to this day for $135. Now you can't get them for much below $350. Having the mum on top of the receiver is a plus but has minimal effect on the value. Other than that, condition is everything. It'll either be 6.5MM or 7.7MM. 7.7 ammo can be made by forming and trimming .30-06 brass and loaded with bullets you'd use in .303 or 7.62X54R. 6.5 is a different story., Good luck with ammo. It's as expensive as factory .45-70 and I'm not sure if any common brass is similar enough to modify. Graf's has it......or if you like tinkering, 220 swift can be formed |
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You know, the original length M1903/M1 Garand bayonet had a 16" blade right?
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles You know, the original length M1903/M1 Garand bayonet had a 16" blade right?
The Type 38 was 50" long compared to 43" and 44" for the M1903/M1 and No1Mk3 Enfield respectively. The extra length on the Japanese rifle makes it look more ominous with the Type 30 bayonet attached. You can get the same effect by putting an M1905 bayonet on the 49" Krag rifle. ETA. Be aware of your surroundings and have plenty of open space when attempting this exercise. 
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The Type 38 was 50" long compared to 43" and 44" for the M1903/M1 and No1Mk3 Enfield respectively. The extra length on the Japanese rifle makes it look more ominous with the Type 30 bayonet attached. You can get the same effect by putting an M1905 bayonet on the 49" Krag rifle. ETA. Be aware of your surroundings and have plenty of open space when attempting this exercise.
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I just got my first one recently as well. Type 99 I snagged for $250 http://i.imgur.com/To0V3oR.jpg HOLY CRAP. British - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet French - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Russians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Italians - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Americans - We will mount this fine knife to the end of our muskets and call it a bayonet Japanese - Fuck that puny knife, we will mount a sword to the end of our rifles You know, the original length M1903/M1 Garand bayonet had a 16" blade right?
The Type 38 was 50" long compared to 43" and 44" for the M1903/M1 and No1Mk3 Enfield respectively. The extra length on the Japanese rifle makes it look more ominous with the Type 30 bayonet attached. You can get the same effect by putting an M1905 bayonet on the 49" Krag rifle. ETA. Be aware of your surroundings and have plenty of open space when attempting this exercise.
If you want really ridiculous, mount an 18" 1906 Swiss Engineer bayonet on a 51" 96/11 rifle. |
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I couldn't imagine working in Logistics for the Japanese in WWII
Type 99, Type 99 Long, Type 38, Type 44, Type 2, Type I(made in Italy) 7.7mm Rimmed, 7.7mm semi rimmed, 6.5mm.. 
I only consider Jap rifles with the mums in tack as bring backs, as those were likely brought back during the war. The rifles with the mums ground off were brought back after the war, when it was ordered to remove the mum. At that point, there were piles of rifles, and Soldiers, Sailors and Marines would stand in line and be handed a rifle to take home after the guy hit the mum with a grinder. But, no I don't believe they were ever commercially imported. |
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I couldn't imagine working in Logistics for the Japanese in WWII Type 99, Type 99 Long, Type 38, Type 44, Type 2, Type I(made in Italy) 7.7mm Rimmed, 7.7mm semi rimmed, 6.5mm.. http://www.adcofirearms.com/junkpics/japwall.jpg I only consider Jap rifles with the mums in tack as bring backs, as those were likely brought back during the war. The rifles with the mums ground off were brought back after the war, when it was ordered to remove the mum. At that point, there were piles of rifles, and Soldiers, Sailors and Marines would stand in line and be handed a rifle to take home after the guy hit the mum with a grinder. But, no I don't believe they were ever commercially imported. Yep, I've heard it said more than a few times that a Japanese logistics officers job during ww2 must have been a living hell. And that was before we started severing their supply lines. 
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