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5/26/2015 10:18:56 AM EDT
Hi guys, so I've got an issue that maybe someone who knows about computers can help me with.

So I'm on satellite internet on a 10 gig plan, all was going great until my wife moved her 18 year old son in on Saturday. Since then he has burned  through all of our data, in two days.

I was wondering if they make a WiFi router where I can set up different user names and passwords for each member of the family and set a limit of monthly data usage for each person that cuts them off once they reach their limit. And once the new month comes sets them back at zero. Something I can monitor everyone's usage would be great.

Thanks
5/26/2015 10:25:04 AM EDT
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Hi guys, so I've got an issue that maybe someone who knows about computers can help me with.

So I'm on satellite internet on a 10 gig plan, all was going great until my wife moved her 18 year old son in on Saturday. Since then he has burned  through all of our data, in two days.

I was wondering if they make a WiFi router where I can set up different user names and passwords for each member of the family and set a limit of monthly data usage for each person that cuts them off once they reach their limit. And once the new month comes sets them back at zero. Something I can monitor everyone's usage would be great.

Thanks
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I don't know of any that limit by amount of data. But there are plenty that will allow you to place restrictions by time.
5/26/2015 10:25:38 AM EDT
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5/26/2015 10:25:42 AM EDT
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i am 99% sure that Sophos UTM Home Edition can do this.  Need a PC with two nics.  Also check out linksys, dlink etc.

Based on sound advice from other topics...  you can buy an SSD and simply place it on the computer.
5/26/2015 10:26:34 AM EDT
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Just put a password on your wifi and don't let him use your network?
5/26/2015 10:29:01 AM EDT
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Was it not explained to him that you don't have unlimited data?
5/26/2015 10:32:16 AM EDT
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I know this is irrelevant to your router question but 10gb is extremely small for a data plan. Maybe not for just you but between my two teenagers and my wife we use upwards of 400gb a month. Pretty sure my one daughter could use up that 10gb with music and a movie or two in one day home on vacation.

Almost all routers allow you to manage settings for when to broadcast. If nothing else you can turn off the signal at night.
5/26/2015 10:34:46 AM EDT
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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.





There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.





This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.





http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/



He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.
 
5/26/2015 10:36:19 AM EDT
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Might want to address his pron habits first.
5/26/2015 10:37:30 AM EDT
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10 gigs is really nothing. You can burn 2 gigs an hour watching youtube videos.

I know the functionality you are after could be found in a custom firmware for some wireless routers called DD-WRT. Unfortunately, this type of stuff is seldomly easy to setup.
5/26/2015 10:44:22 AM EDT
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10 gigs is really nothing. You can burn 2 gigs an hour watching youtube videos.

I know the functionality you are after could be found in a custom firmware for some wireless routers called DD-WRT. Unfortunately, this type of stuff is seldomly easy to setup.
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This....If you can't get unlimited you may as well not let him use any of your 10 gigs.
5/26/2015 10:46:25 AM EDT
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There are routers that can have a guest account that you can limit bandwidth on.

like this  http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDR4300-Wireless-Gigabit-300Mbps/dp/B0088CJT4U/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1432651606&sr=8-6&keywords=tp+link+router
5/26/2015 10:49:05 AM EDT
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Me and my wife don't watch videos online, I basically play on the forums and she spends most of her time on pintrist, where he does online gaming and watches a lot of utube videos.
5/26/2015 10:49:48 AM EDT
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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.

There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.

This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.

http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/

He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.


 
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Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.

Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.
5/26/2015 10:54:02 AM EDT
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Not with a satellite internet connection he doesn't...
5/26/2015 10:56:20 AM EDT
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Set bandwidth limitations on specific MAC addresses as stated above.  Each device they use has a unique MAC address.
5/26/2015 10:58:21 AM EDT
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Hi guys, so I've got an issue that maybe someone who knows about computers can help me with.

So I'm on satellite internet on a 10 gig plan, all was going great until my wife moved her 18 year old son in on Saturday. Since then he has burned  through all of our data, in two days.

I was wondering if they make a WiFi router where I can set up different user names and passwords for each member of the family and set a limit of monthly data usage for each person that cuts them off once they reach their limit. And once the new month comes sets them back at zero. Something I can monitor everyone's usage would be great.

Thanks
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10 gigs of data?

Lol.

It's time for your kid to get his own internet, and lock him out of yours if you only need, and pay for 10 GB, which is a very, very low amount of data (especially for home use).
5/26/2015 10:58:58 AM EDT
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he does online gaming

Not with a satellite internet connection he doesn't...



This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.
5/26/2015 11:02:52 AM EDT
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Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.



Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.

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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.



There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.



This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.



http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/



He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.





 




Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.



Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.

I mean, yeah, if the kid's an asshole he'll do this. Do people not parent? Jesus. Set up QooS, explain to the little shit he gets 5gb of data a month and if he wants more for porn or minecraft videos or what the fuck ever that he can get a job and pay for it.

 
5/26/2015 11:04:15 AM EDT
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This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.
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he does online gaming

Not with a satellite internet connection he doesn't...

This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.

The latency will be much too high for gaming.
5/26/2015 11:05:47 AM EDT
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Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.

Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.
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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.

There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.

This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.

http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/

He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.


 


Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.

Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.


Not with MAC address filtering.  You'd enter in the specific MAD addresses into the router and the router will only communicate with those specific devices.  The kid can dupe any other MAC address but if it isn't on the list it doesn't matter.  It's tedious but it gets results.

Most if not all routers also have an access control section that can enforce restrictions.  All internet access for a given device can be shut off after 10:00PM, for example, to  ensure bed time really is bed time and not play online video games all night time.

5/26/2015 11:34:58 AM EDT
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Not with MAC address filtering.  You'd enter in the specific MAD addresses into the router and the router will only communicate with those specific devices.  The kid can dupe any other MAC address but if it isn't on the list it doesn't matter.  It's tedious but it gets results.

Most if not all routers also have an access control section that can enforce restrictions.  All internet access for a given device can be shut off after 10:00PM, for example, to  ensure bed time really is bed time and not play online video games all night time.

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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.

There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.

This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.

http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/

He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.


 


Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.

Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.


Not with MAC address filtering.  You'd enter in the specific MAD addresses into the router and the router will only communicate with those specific devices.  The kid can dupe any other MAC address but if it isn't on the list it doesn't matter.  It's tedious but it gets results.

Most if not all routers also have an access control section that can enforce restrictions.  All internet access for a given device can be shut off after 10:00PM, for example, to  ensure bed time really is bed time and not play online video games all night time.



That'll work until he figures out he can swap MAC address with his mom's laptop to get around the throttle.  Which is why a throttled guest network makes more sense for OP's situation.
5/26/2015 12:12:47 PM EDT
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This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.
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This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.

Yeah, if he's gaming on satellite, its likely to be a horrible experience. Not due to speed, but latency, which is round trip time to communicate with servers.

On the other hand, unless I'm completely misremembering, online gaming doesn't use anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. 10 GB in two days, for playing games? No. If he downloaded some games (and you can do this legitimately), he could easily hit 10 GB. But playing them? Nope.
5/26/2015 12:50:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, if he's gaming on satellite, its likely to be a horrible experience. Not due to speed, but latency, which is round trip time to communicate with servers.

On the other hand, unless I'm completely misremembering, online gaming doesn't use anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. 10 GB in two days, for playing games? No. If he downloaded some games (and you can do this legitimately), he could easily hit 10 GB. But playing them? Nope.
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he does online gaming

Not with a satellite internet connection he doesn't...



This satellite internet seems faster than the Comcast I just dropped. Just moved into a new house out in the sticks where satellite is the only option. It's exceed satellite internet btw.

Yeah, if he's gaming on satellite, its likely to be a horrible experience. Not due to speed, but latency, which is round trip time to communicate with servers.

On the other hand, unless I'm completely misremembering, online gaming doesn't use anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. 10 GB in two days, for playing games? No. If he downloaded some games (and you can do this legitimately), he could easily hit 10 GB. But playing them? Nope.


Satellite usually has an unrestricted window (12-5am on Exede).  You can schedule that period as unthrottled for overnight downloads.
5/26/2015 12:54:37 PM EDT
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Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.



Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.

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What you want is to limit bandwidth by IP. You'll need to reserve his MAC to a distinct IP and then rate limit it.



There are some routers out there that have QoS. You'll need to confirm the QoS implementation will actually do rate/bandwidth limiting versus traffic prioritization.



This one looks like it does what you want. You can rate limit by device.



http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/



He can change his IP manually to get around this, FYI.





 




Setting an MAC address throttle is useless; kid will just enter another MAC address in the LAN card settings.



Buy a router that supports a guest network.  Throttle the guest network and do not give the kid access to the main network.  Then lock up the modem and router so he can't manually reset them.



It's an IP rate limit, not a "MAC address throttle", whatever that is. If the kid decides to go around the controls put in place, then turn the shit off for him completely.