Posted: 3/13/2003 8:51:32 AM EDT
| Has anyone else seen the promo for an upcomping show about Bullet Trains on the Discovery Channel?? In this promo, they show a guy shoot a handgun and say that a bullet travels 4000 FPS. Does this sound odd to anybody else?? |
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I doubt it. If a bullet could travel that fast from a handgun, imagine the velocity of that round from a rifle! I thought handguns generally achieved higher energies by firing heavier bullets but at slower velocities than a rifle. Are there many rifle rounds that travel faster than 4000fps? .17 hornet maybe? How about a .22-.50BMG(50 cal necked down to take a .22 cal bullet)?[:D] |
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Quoted: Has anyone else seen the promo for an upcomping show about Bullet Trains on the Discovery Channel?? In this promo, they show a guy shoot a handgun and say that a bullet travels 4000 FPS. Does this sound odd to anybody else?? That's when shooting downhill. Uphill it is much slower. [:)] |
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So when Remington introduced its commercial .17, it seemed a sure bet the new cartridge would be a runaway hit. The Remington round is similar (but not identical) to the .17-223 wildcat, and it yields startling muzzle velocities--more than 4,000 fps. This puts the .17 Remington in the class of the .220 Swift, the only other commercially loaded cartridge with a muzzle velocity above the magical 4,000 figure. |
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Quoted: Has anyone else seen the promo for an upcomping show about Bullet Trains on the Discovery Channel?? In this promo, they show a guy shoot a handgun and say that a bullet travels 4000 FPS. Does this sound odd to anybody else?? Bullet Train A and Bullet Train B are heading towards each other on opposite tracks. Bullet Train A is travelling at 1300fps and Bullet Train B is also travelling at 1300fps. James is standing at the front of Bullet Train A and fires a .44 Magnum round at the head of Abdul who is standing at the front of the approaching Bullet Train B. If the .44 Magnum round has a muzzle velocity of 1400fps, then what is the actual speed of the bullet as it penetrates Abdul's forehead? (assuming a constant bullet velocity) |
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I saw the stupid show. The Discovery people just LOVED the homo French train system. The 4000 fps bullet assertion was just the capper. My BS alarm went off big time...and here's why: The speed of sound in air at sea level is about 1050fps. The Discovery morons said the bullet went 4000fps and that the train was FASTER! Now...we all know that the Frog train moves right on out...but I have SERIOUS doubts about it's ability to break the sound barrier, much less go almost FOUR TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND. That would mean that the train was capable of going nearly 3000 miles per hour! [BS2] |
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try losing a zero... [url]http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20000210.html[/url] Dear Yahoo! What is the fastest train in the world? Curious George Shizuoka, Japan Dear George: A quick visit to Yahoo!'s High Speed Rail category revealed some interesting train facts. By browsing around the web sites listed here, we learned that the French and Japanese train makers have been duking it out for years; they measure their records by the average train speed from one station to the next. The French held the world record for many years with their TGV lines, which radiate from Paris. The Nord-Europe line, one of the speediest, connects the City of Light to Lille, in France, then on to Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany, or across the Channel to the UK through the Chunnel. These fast trains maintain an average speed of 157 miles per hour. The Japanese Shinkansen line, however, really moves. With a top speed of 186 miles per hour, the Shinkansen Bullet Train averages 162 miles an hour between Hiroshima and Kokura stations. The Autobahn? Don't make us laugh. Not to be outdone, the French are working on a new TGV line that will top the mythic 200 miles-per-hour barrier. Then you'll be able to commute to downtown Paris from your villa in Provence! Meantime, we turned up some detailed world speed records for different types of trains and a description of rail travel at 310 miles per hour using "Maglev" technology. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Has anyone else seen the promo for an upcomping show about Bullet Trains on the Discovery Channel?? In this promo, they show a guy shoot a handgun and say that a bullet travels 4000 FPS. Does this sound odd to anybody else?? Bullet Train A and Bullet Train B are heading towards each other on opposite tracks. Bullet Train A is travelling at 1300fps and Bullet Train B is also travelling at 1300fps. James is standing at the front of Bullet Train A and fires a .44 Magnum round at the head of Abdul who is standing at the front of the approaching Bullet Train B. If the .44 Magnum round has a muzzle velocity of 1400fps, then what is the actual speed of the bullet as it penetrates Abdul's forehead? (assuming a constant bullet velocity) it's all relative |
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Bullet Train A and Bullet Train B are heading towards each other on opposite tracks. Bullet Train A is travelling at 1300fps and Bullet Train B is also travelling at 1300fps. James is standing at the front of Bullet Train A and fires a .44 Magnum round at the head of Abdul who is standing at the front of the approaching Bullet Train B. If the .44 Magnum round has a muzzle velocity of 1400fps, then what is the actual speed of the bullet as it penetrates Abdul's forehead? (assuming a constant bullet velocity) ....Bullet train A will reach Chicago at 2:00pm. |
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I know this is a bit simpistic but having been in broadcasting it works like this: The promo was probably written by an intern and put together as a video/audio montage by the back room tape geek who would have spent all of ten minutes working on it and then been approved by a supervisor who has (at least in his/her opinion) more important things to think about. It's designed to prompt attention, nothing more. Accuracy of the statements doesn't even figure into it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The Remington Accelerator in .30-06 is above 4000 fps. Aha, that caliber in a single shot handgun. So, Discovery really isnt making this stuff up. Barrel length must be taken into consideration. Any pistol length bbl. would cause [i]serious[/i] velocity loss. Discovery is FOS in this case. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Has anyone else seen the promo for an upcomping show about Bullet Trains on the Discovery Channel?? In this promo, they show a guy shoot a handgun and say that a bullet travels 4000 FPS. Does this sound odd to anybody else?? Bullet Train A and Bullet Train B are heading towards each other on opposite tracks. Bullet Train A is travelling at 1300fps and Bullet Train B is also travelling at 1300fps. James is standing at the front of Bullet Train A and fires a .44 Magnum round at the head of Abdul who is standing at the front of the approaching Bullet Train B. If the .44 Magnum round has a muzzle velocity of 1400fps, then what is the actual speed of the bullet as it penetrates Abdul's forehead? (assuming a constant bullet velocity) What is the initial distance between the trains grasshopper.... |