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4/12/2015 12:52:19 PM EDT
So I messed up. I ended up moving and not being able to keep my rifle safe in the house for now. So they have been livig out in the garage. I've been to busy with a new job to check on them.

Last night I dug my safe out of the crap and found that all of my guns have a layer of rust on them. It varies from a sort of fine powdery looking light rust to spots of the coarse darker red rust splotches.

I've never let this kind of damage happen to any of my guns before and I don't know he proper way to fix it, so I figured one of my stops in trying to learn how to fix it would be you guys.

What is the best way of going about cleaning the rust off and protecting the metal from this happening again?

I would really appreciate the help in fixing my stupid mistake. Thanks
4/12/2015 12:54:48 PM EDT
[#1]

sand blast, Krylon


Sleep easy


4/12/2015 12:55:31 PM EDT
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You can send them to me for proper "long term" storage. I'll keep an eye on em for you
4/12/2015 12:57:51 PM EDT
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oil the heck out of them with some CLP and see if that cleans them up. For blued guns get some of the Big 45 Frontier Metal Cleaner pads, they work wonders and will not remove the blueing.
4/12/2015 1:05:55 PM EDT
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Thanks buddy! I appreciate the offer but I would hate to have to burden you with so many awesome things to store. So I'll keep them in my room and risk the wrath of my wife. Haha.

Everyone else: I'll look into getting some of the stuff you suggested, I would really rather not have to learn to re blue a gun in this house. Hopefully It will all clean up.
It's a shame it happened at all.

Thanks for all the instant replies. Haha
4/12/2015 1:12:11 PM EDT
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pics?
4/12/2015 1:18:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Safe thread?
4/12/2015 1:32:58 PM EDT
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Here are a couple pics of what they all generally look like.



4/12/2015 1:34:40 PM EDT
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Fear not! There is hope

This 870 went swimming in the ocean and was propped in a corner for a few weeks. I saved it from its owner for 100 bucks and took it home. To lazy to post all the work in progress pictures. But this was nothing but citristrip, BLO, motor oil, wd40, very fine stainless wool, brass brushes and lots of tedious work.

my original thread




4/12/2015 1:35:18 PM EDT
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Ouch...
4/12/2015 1:35:43 PM EDT
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Well at least they have that "antique" look now
4/12/2015 1:44:16 PM EDT
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See my post here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_7/673141_.html&page=1&anc=bottom#bottom
4/12/2015 1:46:38 PM EDT
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Wow OP, that really sucks.  I was going to suggest an eraser.  That worked really well on my 642 that had a couple small rusty spots, but it looks like you would need a really big eraser.
4/12/2015 1:48:41 PM EDT
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They are dry and warm now. I'm wiping them down with a rag and some WD-40 right now since it's all I've got. I'll have to pick up the rest after work Monday.

The 30-30 in the pics was my grandfathers, that man was a wizard with cleaning and repairing guns. Hopefully I can repair it to the point he had it.
4/12/2015 1:49:26 PM EDT
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The Big 45 Frontier pads mentioned above get rave reviews for safe rust removal; I have never used them, but they sound like a good option.

Apart from that, depending on the amount and depth of the rust:
Oil, ranging from Kroil to your favorite gun oil to motor oil.
fine abrasive, ranging from toothpicks to a piece of walnut to bronze wool to 4-0 steel wool.
Lots of time and gentle attention.

Last resorts: Evapo-rust, which will remove all the rust and the bluing, or bead blast.
Re-blue, parkerize or paint/coat.
4/12/2015 1:50:33 PM EDT
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Damn OP, put some oil on them for christ sakes.  People pick up my guns, and bitch about oil on their hands, then I point out mine aren't rusty.  Oil is your friend, even that lowly WD-40.
4/12/2015 1:51:41 PM EDT
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They are dry and warm now. I'm wiping them down with a rag and some WD-40 right now since it's all I've got. I'll have to pick up the rest after work Monday.



The 30-30 in the pics was my grandfathers, that man was a wizard with cleaning and repairing guns. Hopefully I can repair it to the point he had it.
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I take it you are on the "Wet Side" like me, then keep them "wet" with oil.

 
4/12/2015 1:53:01 PM EDT
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CLP man.... That will clean up with a little CLP.
4/12/2015 1:53:21 PM EDT
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Kroil it will penetrate deep.  Then a good preservative like EEZOX, CLP, Tetra.
4/12/2015 1:55:23 PM EDT
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They are dry and warm now. I'm wiping them down with a rag and some WD-40 right now since it's all I've got. I'll have to pick up the rest after work Monday.

The 30-30 in the pics was my grandfathers, that man was a wizard with cleaning and repairing guns. Hopefully I can repair it to the point he had it.
I take it you are on the "Wet Side" like me, then keep them "wet" with oil.  



I am definetly on the wet side. I need to get everything together to care for them better. Hard to do when your basic renting a small bedroom with access to a kitchen.
Thanks for all the help. Hopefully the WD will slow the rust atleast until I can buy the stuff to really get at it.
4/12/2015 1:57:08 PM EDT
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Has anyone used rust inhibitors like what Amsoil offers on guns? How well do they work?
4/12/2015 1:57:41 PM EDT
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Yeah one guy kinda chuckled how wet I run my stuff, and I chuckle how dry my safe and office is. And no rust.

OP, look up TinCanBandit.
4/12/2015 1:58:36 PM EDT
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I've got a garage safe.  Desiccants and a goldenrod unit and I've never had a rust spot show up.
4/12/2015 1:59:36 PM EDT
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after you clean the rust off.

http://www.cosmolinedirect.com/cosmoline-1104-corrosion-preventive/
4/12/2015 2:01:01 PM EDT
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You mean Amsoil MP or HDMP?

MP works fine as a very light lube and rust inhibitor. I like it for very small, light parts, but still prefer others lubes for larger parts.  HDMP is only for deep storage, it's a waxy coating. It's not for usage/firing of the gun.
4/12/2015 2:03:57 PM EDT
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I didn't read everyone's reply's so maybe this has already been mentioned: besides the obvious oil them answer, store your guns in those silicon treated gun socks like this. Wal-Mart carries them, usually with some manufactures logo on them like Remington. They make them for pistols, rifles and shotguns.
4/12/2015 2:04:26 PM EDT
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I don't know if electrolysis would effect the bluing (not that it isn't already boogered up), but consider it for rust removal. No abrasives required.



 
4/12/2015 2:04:43 PM EDT
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Will WD-40 damage the wood at all if I get some on it?
4/12/2015 2:04:45 PM EDT
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Get some RIG grease.  Coat the metal and use it with the stainless steel wool, a nickel, or Frontier pad to rub off the rust.  

Don't rub the rust spots with the steel wool with no oil or grease on the blued steel.  The grease keeps the bluing from looking dull and buffed when you are done.

You can coat them inside and out with RIG when storing them to prevent rust.  It's sorta like a light cosmoline.

Get a Goldenrod dehumidifier for inside the safe.

I would get some Breakfree on them ASAP for now though.  May need a reblue - some of that looks pretty bad.

Good luck.
4/12/2015 2:10:46 PM EDT
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Man you must have a moist garage.
4/12/2015 2:15:29 PM EDT
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I would use fine steel wool, plus some of this stuff
www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/metal-bluing/liquid-cold-bluing-chemicals/oxpho-blue--prod1072.aspx
you may find this product at your fine local gunshop as well, it has very good reviews. also, here is a link to a gun lube test and the person who did the test and posted the results deserves a flat of beer and a skank for going the distance on it. pay attention to the long term corrosion test as well as lubricity. I use Hornady one shot on all my guns now, but there are other very good products as well.
www.guncleaningtips.com/the-best-gun-clps-corrosion-and-lubrication-tests/
4/12/2015 2:17:38 PM EDT
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0000 Steel wood, Kroil and lots of elbow grease.   See if that takes care of it.

A just dealt with a buddy's work 870 Tactical after it was out in the rain and he neglected it then just let it rust in his trunk.  Rust went deeper than the matte finish and the above method didn't work.  I sanded everything down and rattlecanned it.  You probably don't want to do that with blued guns.
4/12/2015 2:23:41 PM EDT
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Washington state

4/12/2015 2:25:05 PM EDT
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Naval Jelly?  000000000000000000000000000000(or as close as possible) steel wool



4/12/2015 3:18:40 PM EDT
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Super fine steel wool and gun oil of your choice will get it off. Then you may need to reblue the metal to make it look new again.