Posted: 3/9/2015 4:48:55 AM EDT
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Tactical Fat
I was watching this video, and it made me wonder if being very fat can have any significant ballistic armor effects on the terminal ballistics of ball ammo. Whadda ya think? If there are any medics here from either the Air Force or Corpsmen who happened to see a regulation sized sailor or airmen get shot, you may be the ones I need to ask. |
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More cushion for the pushin'?
Unless you're talking like 'Heavy-Six' morbidly obese, where you are wider and thicker than you are tall, then I'd venture to say that it won't make any difference at all. Fat is far less dense than ballistic gel. If the bullet goes through the B-gel like nothing, then fat would just lube the bullet as it went through... if anything, INCREASING the penetration. 
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What's the deal with youtube videos and combat helmets? It's getting to the point where I just hit the back button when I see that. I know I'll never get that time back, so why even bother? I already know what I'm in for when I see that...
Did he mention "prepping" or "when the shit hits the fan" at any point in the video? |
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I do not think being a fat ass would be an advantage when getting shot. Any good the extra padding might do (which I doubt is very much - if any) is offset by the health risk factors of carrying all that extra weight on your frame. Severe trauma is a shock to the system, add in the pounds and the repair and healing process is aggravated greatly.
I am a fat ass in need of a new hip. Before I am letting anyone cut on me, I am losing weight. This will make the surgery safer and my recovery much easier. Down 17lbs at the moment and just a little over a month into my new diet. When I told my primary and my surgeon that I was postponing surgery until I lost weight, both of them wanted to sing my praises from the rooftops and both commended me on making a very smart decision they dont often see. |
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I was watching this video, and it made me wonder if being very fat can have any significant ballistic armor effects on the terminal ballistics of ball ammo. Whadda ya think? If there are any medics here from either the Air Force or Corpsmen who happened to see a regulation sized sailor or airmen get shot, you may be the ones I need to ask. I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? |
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Quoted: I think he is just a fat guy with some rifles and a youtube channel. I was just trying to think of a way of justifying gaining some weight. Damn. I used to work with a bunch of locally affiliated bikers. The story I got on this subject comes out of the 70's when knives were the popular way to make the red stuff come out of the non compliant. The theory being that if a knife will go in 4", it is better it go through 4" of blubber than 4" of liver/spleen/heart/artery, etc. |
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I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? Quoted:
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I was watching this video, and it made me wonder if being very fat can have any significant ballistic armor effects on the terminal ballistics of ball ammo. Whadda ya think? If there are any medics here from either the Air Force or Corpsmen who happened to see a regulation sized sailor or airmen get shot, you may be the ones I need to ask. I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? lol, he's insinuating that the Navy and Air Force have the only fatties; no, being fat is not a tactical advantage, it doesn't give you extra AP or HP. |
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I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? Quoted:
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I was watching this video, and it made me wonder if being very fat can have any significant ballistic armor effects on the terminal ballistics of ball ammo. Whadda ya think? If there are any medics here from either the Air Force or Corpsmen who happened to see a regulation sized sailor or airmen get shot, you may be the ones I need to ask. I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? Don't get all hurt and stuff. Anyone that has worked with, for or in the Navy or Air Force knows there seems to be a disproportionate number of obviously overweight people in those two services versus Army and Marines. One reason is simply that they have lower PFT standards. Don't be offended. |
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Who IS that guy? Was he ever tracked down? |
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I do not think being a fat ass would be an advantage when getting shot. Any good the extra padding might do (which I doubt is very much - if any) is offset by the health risk factors of carrying all that extra weight on your frame. Severe trauma is a shock to the system, add in the pounds and the repair and healing process is aggravated greatly. I am a fat ass in need of a new hip. Before I am letting anyone cut on me, I am losing weight. This will make the surgery safer and my recovery much easier. Down 17lbs at the moment and just a little over a month into my new diet. When I told my primary and my surgeon that I was postponing surgery until I lost weight, both of them wanted to sing my praises from the rooftops and both commended me on making a very smart decision they dont often see. I wish you the best of luck with the weight, it can happen if you're focused. |
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Don't get all hurt and stuff. Anyone that has worked with, for or in the Navy or Air Force knows there seems to be a disproportionate number of obviously overweight people in those two services versus Army and Marines. One reason is simply that they have lower PFT standards. Don't be offended. Quoted:
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I was watching this video, and it made me wonder if being very fat can have any significant ballistic armor effects on the terminal ballistics of ball ammo. Whadda ya think? If there are any medics here from either the Air Force or Corpsmen who happened to see a regulation sized sailor or airmen get shot, you may be the ones I need to ask. I don't see a tank below your user info, so what basis do you have to insult those that do? Don't get all hurt and stuff. Anyone that has worked with, for or in the Navy or Air Force knows there seems to be a disproportionate number of obviously overweight people in those two services versus Army and Marines. One reason is simply that they have lower PFT standards. Don't be offended. One time I was working in a joint environment and we had a Navy petty officer 2nd class as an interpreter. He told us that he was up for promotion and that he won sailor of the month board. I wanted so badly to ask him if the board involved a hot dog eating contest, but I was too scared. |
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I think the AF is the only one that has a maximum waist size. Do the other branches? Quoted:
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If I was in the Army does that qualify me to make the observation that generally speaking sailors and airmen and heavier than soldiers and marines? I think the AF is the only one that has a maximum waist size. Do the other branches? You're not going to get me to defend the Army, I wasn't like "Mr. Army" or anything, but I really can't think of 5 obese people I knew when I was in who were in the Army. The chances of an obese person being an airman or a sailor seemed much higher to me, that's all. A max waist size seems like a pretty good idea, it would save them the trouble of measuring necks, waists, ribcages, wrists and side meat and then dividing by pi. A truly objective standard would be to offer the service member a choice between standing undressed in a room full of clothed people while eating ice cream for a predetermined amount of time or being discharged. |