[ARCHIVED THREAD] - High Cap Mag Ban (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/10/2015 5:06:07 PM EDT
| I'm new to the AR scene and all my previous rifles have been bolt action and 10/22's. So my question is back when the "Brady Bill" or whatever it was called was going on that limited handgun magazines to 10rds, did this apply to rifle magazines too? Just curious with all the magazine law talk going on. Thanks. |
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One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. Best to hit up DSG or palmetto when they have sales. 10 packs for 80 bucks. Hasn't done me wrong the multiple times I've done it. 
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One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. |
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win |
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I'm new to the AR scene and all my previous rifles have been bolt action and 10/22's. So my question is back when the "Brady Bill" or whatever it was called was going on that limited handgun magazines to 10rds, did this apply to rifle magazines too? Just curious with all the magazine law talk going on. Thanks. Yes. It applied to all magazines with a capacity in excess of 10 round that were manufactured after the signing of the law by President Clinton on 09/13/1994. Certain individuals were exempted from the law, and the law also exempted tubular magazines capable of holding only .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. The language of the law for large capacity ammunition feeding devices, at that time: https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES. (a) Prohibition.--Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(a), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection: (w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection. (3) This subsection shall not apply to-- (A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty); (B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials; (C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or (D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Secretary.''. (4) If a person charged with violating paragraph (1) asserts that paragraph (1) does not apply to such person because of paragraph (2) or (3), the Government shall have the burden of proof to show that such paragraph (1) applies to such person. The lack of a serial number as described in section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, shall be a presumption that the large capacity ammunition feeding device is not subject to the prohibition of possession in paragraph (1).''. (b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device.-- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(b), is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph: (31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'-- (A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but (B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.''. (c) Penalty.--Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(c)(1), is amended by striking ``or (v)'' and inserting ``(v), or (w)''. (d) Identification Markings for Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices.--Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(d) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the Secretary may by regulation prescribe.''. |
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I'm new to the AR scene and all my previous rifles have been bolt action and 10/22's. So my question is back when the "Brady Bill" or whatever it was called was going on that limited handgun magazines to 10rds, did this apply to rifle magazines too? Just curious with all the magazine law talk going on. Thanks. Buy cheap, stack deep. |
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I was always taught magazines are the number one reason for a malfunction in a semi automatic firearm. They wear out and break. I'd be buying cases of quality AR magazines. They are very much a liquid asset. Anyone think AR15 magazine prices will go lower or have we pretty much hit the bottom? |
| And our selection was limited. No pmags. No lancers. No nothing for ar's but military alumininum mags. Seems like they used to be 6 bucks for a banged up surplus mag, way before the ban. Seems like there was one plastic mag I had. I had about 10 mags,which I thought was plenty. Arfcom has taught me I need AT LEAST 87. And for pistols we did have factory, and Mecgar. I remember 10/22 high caps SELLING for $50 during the ban.. It's only a matter of time. I bet next time they don't try the gun ban-they just go after everything over 10 rounds. Really ar-15's weren't even common,or popular before that ban. After the sunset seems like every gun store had them. |
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this right here is the answer. buy what you can if only a few at a time. check the ee for pmags or usgi good luck Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time buy what you can if only a few at a time. check the ee for pmags or usgi good luck |
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I'm new to the AR scene and all my previous rifles have been bolt action and 10/22's. So my question is back when the "Brady Bill" or whatever it was called was going on that limited handgun magazines to 10rds, did this apply to rifle magazines too? Just curious with all the magazine law talk going on. Thanks. Get it while it can be had. 
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Anyone think AR15 magazine prices will go lower or have we pretty much hit the bottom? They are low. Have a reasonable amount such that if they were banned tomorrow you would be ok then watch for sales where you might save a few dollars on multiple magazines or shipping. |
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Quoted: D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. |
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Sadly, this man speaks the truth! BUT, it's fun. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time Sadly, this man speaks the truth! BUT, it's fun. It doesn't have to be truth. We just have to keep the pressure on congress and keep funneling money to the NRA-ILA. |
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I was always taught magazines are the number one reason for a malfunction in a semi automatic firearm. They wear out and break. I'd be buying cases of quality AR magazines. They are very much a liquid asset. Anyone think AR15 magazine prices will go lower or have we pretty much hit the bottom? Black Friday this year was the bottom I believe. USGI mags were $5. I'm hoping for Pmag deals once the new ones from SHOT Show hit the market. My Fo price is $85 dozen 
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ATP Gun Shop and Range in Goose Creek,SC (Charleston). Photo taken by Bklyn_Irish 2 days after Newtown Knowing them they're probably still $60 each 
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh126/bklynirish/2013-01-109511-17-5295223_zps3e115a87.jpg And the people that bought them for $60 ended up flipping them for $90. |
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ATP Gun Shop and Range in Goose Creek,SC (Charleston). Photo taken by Bklyn_Irish 2 days after Newtown Knowing them they're probably still $60 each
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh126/bklynirish/2013-01-109511-17-5295223_zps3e115a87.jpg I thought I recognized the font on that pic. I go there for the laughs now. Side note, Bklyn_Irish is such a cool dude, he sold me 3 FDE and 3 ODG NIB Pmags in the middle of the panic for $12 each for a couple of builds I had going. There were literally none of either to be found for any price around here then. |
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Wrong idea.... What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. ..lol wut? Revolt at that point 
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One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. you'll need at least 82 more. |
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Wrong idea.... What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. I'm unlikely to comply. |
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Quoted: I'm unlikely to comply. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By downtown0309 One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. During the last panic they were selling for $50 or more each....consider it an investment. D16 is right Consider firearms and firearms parts one of the best investments you can have. Your investing in commodities that will always be worth something. And if your like me i like to shoot. So its a double win win What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. I'm unlikely to comply. But for the folks thinking about cashing out on a panic. Bad idea. I buy mags to keep myself and my wife supplied. Folks that buy it thinking about cashing out during a panic? Bad idea. The Anti-gunners have learned... forget grandfathering in stuff. Just outright ban shit now is their modus operandi. |
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Quoted: 1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time No guarantee you'll get to keep it. I had the same attitude here in NY with our old AWB and bought accordingly. I permanently converted over 100 preban AR and AK mags to 10 rounders after SAFE passed... and still shipped 90 pounds of other preban mags to a buddy out of state. |
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Purchase magazines through a gun show or through a local retailer using cash.
Be prepared to turn over magazines if said magazines are banned in "compliance" with the law if one is passed that bans possession. Make sure that you have a certified notarized receipt for the magazines you turn over. Keep in mind that if possession is illegal that to be seen with them at a range, in social media, in public (by friends, family, whoever), or to have a credit card record of purchases of magazines that were not turned over would definitely subject you to possibly criminal liability. Keep in mind that search warrants are very easy to obtain and if said contraband was found in your home you would be subject to criminal penalty. After possession of certain types of magazines was made illegal you'd have to ask yourself why anyone would keep them just to keep them in hiding collecting dust?  Seems like that just wouldn't be smart since you couldn't use them legally in self defense without breaking the law. If you're doing it, because you believe the security of a free state depends on you being sufficiently armed than you have to ask yourself if that free state exists anymore if they're banning magazines?
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No guarantee you'll get to keep it. I had the same attitude here in NY with our old AWB and bought accordingly. I permanently converted over 100 preban AR and AK mags to 10 rounders after SAFE passed... and still shipped 90 pounds of other preban mags to a buddy out of state. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time No guarantee you'll get to keep it. I had the same attitude here in NY with our old AWB and bought accordingly. I permanently converted over 100 preban AR and AK mags to 10 rounders after SAFE passed... and still shipped 90 pounds of other preban mags to a buddy out of state. Yup, real easy for people to say "oh I wont comply." You'll comply folks. Trick is not to be put into that position in the first place. |
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Wrong idea.... What if laws are passed in a manner like NY and CT? Then all the magazines you invested in are worth nothing. You should invest in what you want and what you think will keep you happy. Investing on the idea of cashing out during a panic? Not good. Not sure why you claim mags one invested in if they lived in CT are worth nothing. So long as one declared them to the state of CT by 1/1/14 they are legal to possess and use (at the few locations specified in CT state law). Even if one didn't declare them they could always block them to 10 rounds and use them legally. One could even keep them if they didn't declare them and pray they didn't get busted with them. Under CT law its perfectly legal to drive out of state and buy a pallet load of magazines. The catch is you cannot bring them back into the state if they hold more than 10 rounds. Under CT law its perfectly legal to sell magazines holding more than 10 rounds to someone in a free state. It has been speculated that it may even be legal to bring a pile of magazine parts back to CT so long as you don't assemble those parts into a functioning magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds. Bottom line is that unlike your claim that our magazines in CT are worthless, they are worth whatever anyone outside of this state is willing to pay for them. They are even worth whatever someone within CT is willing to pay if they either are willing to break the law or are a member of the exempted class who are allowed to buy magazines holding more than 10 rounds. |
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Yup, real easy for people to say "oh I wont comply." You'll comply folks. Trick is not to be put into that position in the first place. In CT some complied but many did not. Either out of ignorance of the law or for a small number willful refusal to declare their magazines. It has been reported elsewhere through a claimed FOI that some 38,290 magazine declaration forms (with multiple magazines per form) were received by the state of CT. Considering how many people own guns in this state, or how many people just hold pistol permits (reportedly at least 196,620 pistol permits through 9/13/13), it appears a majority (probably large majority) of people didn't declare their large capacity magazines to the state of CT. |
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One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. Quoted:
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1st lesson Buy as much shit as you can .. Its a matter of time One of my local shops has Gen3 Pmags 5 for $50. I bought 5 but thinking of getting some more. When you think you have enough, double it. |