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1/17/2015 10:45:15 PM EDT
Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:



However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  

There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:



On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.

This stuff looks interdasting:



But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .

So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?
1/17/2015 10:47:38 PM EDT
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in before graphite.
1/17/2015 10:55:58 PM EDT
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:

http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg

However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  

There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:

http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg

On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.

This stuff looks interdasting:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg

But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .

So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?
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TW25B, all day, every day, no comparison, not even close.

That tube of TW25B should last a guy 5 years or more, and it's anti-corrosion property's are a documented quantity.
500 hour continuous 5% Salt water spray with no corrosion.

https://www.mil-comm.com/previous/images/stories/pdfs/astmtw25.pdf

Carbon and firing residue doesn't stick, the oil carrier might burn off hot barrels, but the preservative and dry lubricant component remains...something Tetra and other suck at.
Run it almost dry to the touch, and dirt/grit doesn't stick, and it stays put.

It doesn't wash off, without using the sonic tank, solvents, or harsh De-greasers. Even with most de-greasers, it wont give up easy.
The shit is overkill.





1/17/2015 10:58:35 PM EDT
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Not the Grease I was expecting.
1/17/2015 11:00:03 PM EDT
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I use TW-25B.

I bought one of the NRA-branded mini syringes from a Bass Pro two years ago.  I shoot twice a month and clean my guns...  eh, maybe once a month.

I've barely put a dent in that tube of grease.
1/17/2015 11:00:18 PM EDT
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1/17/2015 11:00:43 PM EDT
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Sorry to let you down, darlin'.  Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you...
1/17/2015 11:00:47 PM EDT
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In before Travolta.

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1/17/2015 11:08:20 PM EDT
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Only if it includes Olivia!
1/17/2015 11:10:22 PM EDT
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Sorry to let you down, darlin'.  Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you...
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Sorry to let you down, darlin'.  Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you...

Naah, was thinking ONJ and Travolta
1/17/2015 11:11:57 PM EDT
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Fun fact: In WWII the Germans in Russia found the only lubricant that kept their small arms working in the winter was
Sunflower seed oil.

It was also reported as hard to get where it was the coldest.

Info came from a post war Army manual written by former Eastern Front German Staff Officers.
1/17/2015 11:12:10 PM EDT
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Sorry to let you down, darlin'.  Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you...

Naah, was thinking ONJ and Travolta


Crushed sweaty sex fantasies are crushed...
1/17/2015 11:15:30 PM EDT
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Fun fact: In WWII the Germans in Russia found the only lubricant that kept their small arms working in the winter was
Sunflower seed oil.

It was also reported as hard to get where it was the coldest.

Info came from a post war Army manual written by former Eastern Front German Staff Officers.
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Interdasting.  I've heard whale oil was good; Gun Tests mag found the best oil was plain ol' motor oil, which makes sense: it has to keep its lubricity to some pretty ridiculous temperature extremes.
1/17/2015 11:40:13 PM EDT
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WAFFENFETT is the word!

ETA: But TW25B ain't bad...and neither is SLIP 2000 EWG
1/17/2015 11:41:59 PM EDT
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I've got chills.





They're multiplying.












 

1/17/2015 11:43:11 PM EDT
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I've got chills.



They're multiplying.






 

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Actually, you've got the ghey.  Do you like gladiator movies?
1/17/2015 11:51:27 PM EDT
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:

http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg

However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  

There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:

http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg

On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.

This stuff looks interdasting:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg

But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .

So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?
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Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber.  They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you.  It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm.

ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE.
1/17/2015 11:53:41 PM EDT
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This!  I was expecting Sandra Dee.
1/17/2015 11:56:51 PM EDT
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Thread needs less water based personal lubricants
1/17/2015 11:59:36 PM EDT
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You better shape up,
'Cuz you're the only one,
And my heart is set on you.
You better shape up,
You better understand,
To my heart I must be true.
1/17/2015 11:59:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Cheap white lithium grease. I only use grease on AKs so a tube will probably last my lifetime.
1/18/2015 12:32:29 AM EDT
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html


Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0


www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx

Grant Cunningham's excellent  article on lubricants is worth looking  at.

You can get the stuff direct from the Lubriplate on-in store
1/18/2015 12:39:48 AM EDT
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I use cheap old Hoppes grease on  slide rails, no issues for years
1/18/2015 12:47:18 AM EDT
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Whatever is in my tool box.  I also have a 1 lb can of GI Grease. It must be fifty years old.
1/18/2015 12:54:55 AM EDT
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Tetra works okay, but -

- it separates in the tube,  and
- evaporates quickly from the mechanism.  I stopped using Tetra grease.  Squish the tube back and forth to remix if it does separate.

I use STOS on the hinge and locking lugs of my shotguns.  Great for long life and stays put in hot weather.  Mobil 1 grease goes on bolt lugs and sears.  But the truth is, I'll use whatever is handy, including lithium grease.

1/18/2015 12:55:05 AM EDT
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There are only 5 major grease manufacturers in the US.

Only 3 of them do R&D.


Congratulations you're buying 30 year old technology.
1/18/2015 1:05:00 AM EDT
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Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber.  They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you.  It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm.



ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE.
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:



http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg



However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  



There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:



http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg



On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.



This stuff looks interdasting:



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg



But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .



So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?


Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber.  They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you.  It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm.



ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE.


Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox



 
1/18/2015 1:11:56 AM EDT
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:

http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg

However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  

There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:

http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg

On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.

This stuff looks interdasting:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg

But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .

So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?

Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber.  They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you.  It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm.

ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE.

Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox
 


Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia.

Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy.

1/18/2015 1:16:46 AM EDT
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers,
1/18/2015 1:37:12 AM EDT
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http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease
1/18/2015 2:15:30 AM EDT
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Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia.

Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy.

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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite:

http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg

However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.  

There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...:

http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg

On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection.

This stuff looks interdasting:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg

But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply .

So what says the Hivemind?  What gun grease do you use & why?

Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber.  They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you.  It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm.

ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE.

Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox
 


Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia.

Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy.


Break Free / CLP has just enough PTFE in it to be able to say they have Teflon(tm) ie "wonder spooge" in it. The Krytox I have is from work that I got for work related stuff and it is left over.  It came from a 55 gallon drum.  (~30k USD per barrel IIRC)  Use a mineral or PAO oil and if you need grease, lithium or lithium complex soap with mineral or PAO oil in it.  Moly or graphite in the grease wouldn't hurt anything either.   Like everyone else, I want to protect my investment in firearms and don't have a problem with paying tens of dollars for a better lubricant. The problem is that it is often counter productive and you wind up with a worse product.  There is a lot of snake oil out there.

I do have some Tetra stuff from when I didn't know any better.  I now work for one of the largest bearing companies in the world and know several tribologists.  This thread reminded me I need to ask one of them if they know of something better than Dow Corning HP300 for a specific application.

I don't want to say Krytox / HP300 / other good quality PTFE/PFPE greases are bad, I have seen them make the difference between an application work or not work.  They are very good products in the right application but they are very specialized.
1/18/2015 2:19:00 AM EDT
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1/18/2015 2:19:30 AM EDT
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html


Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0


www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx

Grant Cunningham's excellent  article on lubricants is worth looking  at.

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My only disagreement with Grant would be the oil for rotating parts, we make lots of sealed bearings with grease.  Most car hubs have grease in them for that matter.  (some of which are ours)   Rail cars and locomotives have grease in their axle bearings as well and that seems to work just fine.
1/18/2015 2:22:55 AM EDT
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers,

http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease


That seems outdated.
1/18/2015 2:23:46 AM EDT
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers,

http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease


That seems outdated.

But still works just like no 9
1/18/2015 10:22:16 AM EDT
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html

Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0

www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx

Grant Cunningham's excellent  article on lubricants is worth looking  at.

You can get the stuff direct from the Lubriplate on-in store
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Thank you for that; good read.  Wish the Lubriplate came in 1.5 oz. tubes, really looking for something to carry with my cleaning kit in my truck.  I have a 14 oz. can of their 130-A, which is formulated for the Garand, and that serves well at home.  But from the inflammation in this thred, looks like good ol' Hoppe's #9 grease will get the nod for the truck kit.  Like others have said, old-fashioned, but like their bore solvent (which I use), it still works just fine.
1/18/2015 11:53:54 AM EDT
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I pack glue syringes with bulk pack grease for carrying in a cleaning kit.  It's a messy proposition.
1/18/2015 11:57:11 AM EDT
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What will it do that a quality disk brake bearing grease won't do?
1/18/2015 12:13:26 PM EDT
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Which is why I want to avoid any of the greases that come in a syringe.  I know the tubes (the plastic ones, anyway) can take a significant hit and not start to leak; the syringes, not so much.  Give a good push on that plunger, and shit will come out, somewhere.  Plus, they eat up alot more room in your kit than a simple tube.  Plus, KISS: simple squeeze tubes have no moving parts, and I am more than good with that.
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Meh, there's various wonder splooges in the gun greases that make it perfectly suited to that particular task.  That being said, alot of guys in this thred have said they do just that, using whatever grease they happen to have on hand, without western civ coming to a screeching halt.

YMMV, I'm just looking for that "holy grail" grease that is perfect.  The one that will make your gun run like a sewing machine during the zombie apocalypse, protect it from rust if lost in a tragic boating accident, smell like roses, and get supermodels to catfight each other to bed down with you.
1/18/2015 12:28:07 PM EDT
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers,

http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease


That seems outdated.

But still works just like no 9


Well I do love the smell of Hoppes No. 9.
1/18/2015 12:41:11 PM EDT
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It you want to know about grease ask the Sig guys, they use it by the 5 gallon bucket or their gun disintegrates.
1/18/2015 12:43:10 PM EDT
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Magnalube G

we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft.

http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html

The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range.

Buy it online.  The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone.
1/18/2015 12:50:04 PM EDT
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I use a synthetic bearing grease(may be Valvoline, may be Walmart's brand, I don't remember).

I shoot enough and therefore re-apply enough that I'm not overly concerned about the latest gun specific wonder grease.

BUT, I don't knock those that are.
1/18/2015 12:53:04 PM EDT
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Magnalube G



we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft.



http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html



The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range.



Buy it online.  The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone.
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I read the first post and scrolled down to post this.  I work in an industrial environment and have never seen anything as good as Magnalube-G.  




I have seen this stuff do amazing things. You won't find it's equal anywhere.  You can also get it in small tubes straight from Magnalube.  
1/18/2015 12:55:01 PM EDT
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worst movie evar
1/18/2015 1:06:11 PM EDT
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 Butt... butt... butt... Olivia Newton-John in shiny, skin-tight pants!
1/18/2015 1:27:23 PM EDT
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Back on topic.... I have a couple tubes of Moly-Slide that I have been using for years.  A little goes a long way.  

 
1/18/2015 3:27:01 PM EDT
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Magnalube G

we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft.

http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html

The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range.

Buy it online.  The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone.
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Isn't Lock Stock N Barrel still open in Simi Valley?
1/18/2015 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Sorry to let you down, darlin'.  Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you...

Naah, was thinking ONJ and Travolta


Crushed sweaty sex fantasies are crushed...

We can't get too carried away on here ya know, fun is against the rules.
1/18/2015 3:29:50 PM EDT
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