[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Grease (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/17/2015 10:45:15 PM EDT
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite: http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.
There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...: http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection. This stuff looks interdasting: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply So what says the Hivemind? What gun grease do you use & why? TW25B, all day, every day, no comparison, not even close. That tube of TW25B should last a guy 5 years or more, and it's anti-corrosion property's are a documented quantity. 500 hour continuous 5% Salt water spray with no corrosion. https://www.mil-comm.com/previous/images/stories/pdfs/astmtw25.pdf Carbon and firing residue doesn't stick, the oil carrier might burn off hot barrels, but the preservative and dry lubricant component remains...something Tetra and other suck at. Run it almost dry to the touch, and dirt/grit doesn't stick, and it stays put. It doesn't wash off, without using the sonic tank, solvents, or harsh De-greasers. Even with most de-greasers, it wont give up easy. The shit is overkill. |
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Fun fact: In WWII the Germans in Russia found the only lubricant that kept their small arms working in the winter was
Sunflower seed oil. It was also reported as hard to get where it was the coldest. Info came from a post war Army manual written by former Eastern Front German Staff Officers. |
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Not the Grease I was expecting. Sorry to let you down, darlin'. Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you... ![]() Naah, was thinking ONJ and Travolta |
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Fun fact: In WWII the Germans in Russia found the only lubricant that kept their small arms working in the winter was Sunflower seed oil. It was also reported as hard to get where it was the coldest. Info came from a post war Army manual written by former Eastern Front German Staff Officers. Interdasting. |
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite: http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.
There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...: http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection. This stuff looks interdasting: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply So what says the Hivemind? What gun grease do you use & why? Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber. They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you. It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm. ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE. |
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I've got chills. They're multiplying. Quoted:
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Not the Grease I was expecting. I've got chills. They're multiplying. You better shape up, 'Cuz you're the only one, And my heart is set on you. You better shape up, You better understand, To my heart I must be true. |
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0 www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx Grant Cunningham's excellent article on lubricants is worth looking at. You can get the stuff direct from the Lubriplate on-in store |
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Tetra works okay, but -
- it separates in the tube, and - evaporates quickly from the mechanism. I stopped using Tetra grease. Squish the tube back and forth to remix if it does separate. I use STOS on the hinge and locking lugs of my shotguns. Great for long life and stays put in hot weather. Mobil 1 grease goes on bolt lugs and sears. But the truth is, I'll use whatever is handy, including lithium grease. |
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Quoted: Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber. They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you. It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm. ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE. Quoted: Quoted: Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite: http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it. There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...: http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection. This stuff looks interdasting: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply So what says the Hivemind? What gun grease do you use & why? Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber. They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you. It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm. ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE. Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox ![]() |
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Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite: http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.
There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...: http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection. This stuff looks interdasting: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply So what says the Hivemind? What gun grease do you use & why? Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber. They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you. It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm. ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE. Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox
Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia. Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy. |
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers, http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease |
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Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia. Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy. Quoted:
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Up to now, my go-to grease has been Outers Gunslick graphite: http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/gunslickl.jpg However, it's a pretty tiny tube, and not many places carry it.
There are alot of good reviews on Midway for Tetra; PTFE-based, lubricity is supposed to be aresome (improved trigger pulls & cycling, PTFE infusion of parts/bores) and Fulton Armory shills for them, so...: http://www.discountfirearmsusa.com/images/library/brs/zoom/2055-0003.jpg On the downside, per the Midway reviews, it doesn't seem to offer much long-term corrosion protection. This stuff looks interdasting: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bvUeITCwL.jpg But at ~$26 for this size tube, the price is simply So what says the Hivemind? What gun grease do you use & why? Keep anything fluorinated, like PTFE or PFPE oils out of the barrel or chamber. They will decompose at firing temperatures releasing fluorine, which is bad for the steel and for you. It also doesn't "infuse" into steel unless you have a porosity problem, which you should not have in a quality firearm. ETA, I will use Dupont Krytox RFE on the slide, which is the more or less the same thing except made by the people that invented PTFE. Except if OP doesn't want to pay $26 for 4 oz of TW25, he's going to cry at the price of Krytox
Not to mention the issue with PTFE in the barrel, and the effect of minor amounts of flourine is overhyped and paranoid minutia. Good old Break free with PTFE has been used for decades IN and outside of weapons bores, with nobody growing a third eyeball from flourine, and zero measurable degradation of service life or accuracy. Break Free / CLP has just enough PTFE in it to be able to say they have Teflon(tm) ie "wonder spooge" in it. The Krytox I have is from work that I got for work related stuff and it is left over. It came from a 55 gallon drum. (~30k USD per barrel IIRC) Use a mineral or PAO oil and if you need grease, lithium or lithium complex soap with mineral or PAO oil in it. Moly or graphite in the grease wouldn't hurt anything either. Like everyone else, I want to protect my investment in firearms and don't have a problem with paying tens of dollars for a better lubricant. The problem is that it is often counter productive and you wind up with a worse product. There is a lot of snake oil out there. I do have some Tetra stuff from when I didn't know any better. I now work for one of the largest bearing companies in the world and know several tribologists. This thread reminded me I need to ask one of them if they know of something better than Dow Corning HP300 for a specific application. I don't want to say Krytox / HP300 / other good quality PTFE/PFPE greases are bad, I have seen them make the difference between an application work or not work. They are very good products in the right application but they are very specialized. |
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0 www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx Grant Cunningham's excellent article on lubricants is worth looking at. You can get the stuff direct from the Lubriplate on-in store My only disagreement with Grant would be the oil for rotating parts, we make lots of sealed bearings with grease. Most car hubs have grease in them for that matter. (some of which are ours) Rail cars and locomotives have grease in their axle bearings as well and that seems to work just fine. |
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers, http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease That seems outdated. |
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers, http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease That seems outdated. But still works just like no 9
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http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html Lubriplate "SFL" NLGI #0 www.lubriplate.com/Online-Store/Rifle-Greases/SFL-0.aspx Grant Cunningham's excellent article on lubricants is worth looking at. You can get the stuff direct from the Lubriplate on-in store Thank you for that; good read.
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I pack glue syringes with bulk pack grease for carrying in a cleaning kit. It's a messy proposition. Which is why I want to avoid any of the greases that come in a syringe. I know the tubes (the plastic ones, anyway) can take a significant hit and not start to leak; the syringes, not so much. Give a good push on that plunger, and shit will come out, somewhere. Plus, they eat up alot more room in your kit than a simple tube. Plus, KISS: simple squeeze tubes have no moving parts, and I am more than good with that. |
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What will it do that a quality disk brake bearing grease won't do? Meh, there's various wonder splooges in the gun greases that make it perfectly suited to that particular task. That being said, alot of guys in this thred have said they do just that, using whatever grease they happen to have on hand, without western civ coming to a screeching halt. YMMV, I'm just looking for that "holy grail" grease that is perfect. The one that will make your gun run like a sewing machine during the zombie apocalypse, protect it from rust if lost in a tragic boating accident, smell like roses, and get supermodels to catfight each other to bed down with you.
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But still works just like no 9 ![]() Quoted:
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I've always liked Tetra grease, but after reading a couple of the comments in this thread I think I will be switching to something that offers corrosion resistance. Tag for meow answers, http://www.hoppes.com/gun-oils/gun-grease That seems outdated. But still works just like no 9 ![]() Well I do love the smell of Hoppes No. 9. |
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Magnalube G
we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft. http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range. Buy it online. The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone. |
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Quoted: Magnalube G we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft. http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range. Buy it online. The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone. I read the first post and scrolled down to post this. I work in an industrial environment and have never seen anything as good as Magnalube-G. I have seen this stuff do amazing things. You won't find it's equal anywhere. You can also get it in small tubes straight from Magnalube.
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Magnalube G we used it on the landing gear links & pivots on supersonic aircraft. http://www.magnalube-g.com/lubeperf.html The most water resistant grease you will find, with a broad temperature range. Buy it online. The only gun shop that ever stocked it was Lock Stock N Barrel in San Gabriel, CA. - and they are long gone. Isn't Lock Stock N Barrel still open in Simi Valley? |
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Not the Grease I was expecting. Sorry to let you down, darlin'. Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you... ![]() Naah, was thinking ONJ and Travolta We can't get too carried away on here ya know, fun is against the rules.
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Be happy to discuss personal lubricants with you... 