[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Ziplock Method for DUI Checkpoints (Page 1 of 11)
Posted: 1/6/2015 5:47:36 PM EDT
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Fuck drunk drivers with a rusty pitchfork... Also, fuck these "Stop and harass everyone" checkpoints. Quoted:
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How about don't drive drunk? Just a thought. Fuck drunk drivers with a rusty pitchfork... Also, fuck these "Stop and harass everyone" checkpoints. I agree. Fuck ALL of those people. |
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I wouldn't bet on that always working. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile just depends on if they have had their doughnut and coffee for the night yet. 
for real though, if i were a cop and saw this id just wave them through too. no point arguing with someone who is obviously just trying to antagonize the system. that said checkpoints are BS |
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When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. Quoted:
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? |
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Another checkpoint thread.
Great. Read the papers and avoid them, or sue the state and fight for legislative change. Might be better than bitching on the internet. As long as guidelines are followed, they are legal and driving is a privilege, not a right. Sorry, facts suck. All that being said, checkpoints don't do shit anyways. All the cops would have had to do was order him out of the car. |
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No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Quoted:
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Not sure if serious. 
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Another checkpoint thread. Great. Read the papers and avoid them, or sue the state and fight for legislative change. Might be better than bitching on the internet. As long as guidelines are followed, they are legal and driving is a privilege, not a right. Sorry, facts suck. All that being said, checkpoints don't do shit anyways. Ahh, the yummy taste of freshly licked boot, eh? |
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How about don't drive drunk? Just a thought. Agreed. And I don't. If we're drinking, we always go out in a cab. This is just an example of how ignorant most of us are, when it comes to the law. By the way, I fucking hate drunk drivers. A buddy of mine was killed by one a few years ago. |
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No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Quoted:
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? The TSA has nothing to do with terrorism. |
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How about don't run checkpoints? Just a thought. Quoted:
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How about don't drive drunk? Just a thought. How about don't run checkpoints? Just a thought. Sounds kinda like a Nazi Germany thing. "Checkpoints ?¿"  Fuck that and all those that endorse that kind of illegal shit.
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So is remaining silent when you're seized at a checkpoint. You troll me, I troll you. That's how the world works. Quoted:
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As long as guidelines are followed, they are legal So is remaining silent when you're seized at a checkpoint. You troll me, I troll you. That's how the world works. He said he wouldn't roll it down because they could smell alcohol (theoretically). Dude, I can look through a window and see your eyes and have reasonable suspicion to conduct fields. I'm not saying right or wrong, so the assholes making licked boot comments can pump the brakes. A smart cop could have simply asked him to step out of his car and bypassed his "they cant smell me notion", or they knew exactly what he was doing and wanted no part of it, or they didn't know the law surrounding checkpoints. If you wanna carry your insurance/reg/DL in a fucking bag every time you drive, by all means, go for it
Otherwise, read the fucking papers to see where they are at, don't drive drunk, or fight for legislative change. Pretty obvious these guys knew what was going on and decided to let this sad lonely little basement dweller get a good video out of them. |
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I hate drunk drivers with a passion, but how about not stopping 100 drivers just because 1 driver MIGHT be intoxicated. Quoted:
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How about don't drive drunk? Just a thought. I hate drunk drivers with a passion, but how about not stopping 100 drivers just because 1 driver MIGHT be intoxicated. Bullshit! You love drunk driving and you love drunk drivers too! Gwaarbbablaahhrgggbbblll!!! 
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He said he wouldn't do it because they could smell alcohol. Dude, I can look through a window and see your eyes and have reasonable suspicion to conduct fields. I'm not saying right or wrong, so the assholes making licked boot comments can pump the brakes. What I am saying is "don't do what the video says", because......he is lucky it worked, and it seems like the cops were unsure as to legally why they could do what they were doing. A smart cop could have simply asked him to step out of his car and bypassed his "they cant smell me notion". Based on what? |
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Not sure if serious. I'm no lover of DUI checkpoints, even if I don't drive drunk. I want to be on my way when I drive somewhere. But I don't act like a clown and try to bait the police into something by intentionally driving through one with my "papers" hanging outside the vehicle in a ziplock. Nor, would I do this while trying to fly out of an airport. That's my only point. DUI checkpoints, as well as TSA checkpoints in airports, are a publicly-facing feel-good security/safety joke, but they're here and ain't going away any time soon. Another poster equated DUI checkpoints to law enforcement trolling for drunks. I just +1'd his suggestion. |
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He said he wouldn't do it because they could smell alcohol. Dude, I can look through a window and see your eyes and have reasonable suspicion to conduct fields. I'm not saying right or wrong, so the assholes making licked boot comments can pump the brakes. What I am saying is "don't do what the video says", because......he is lucky it worked, and it seems like the cops were unsure as to legally why they could do what they were doing. A smart cop could have simply asked him to step out of his car and bypassed his "they cant smell me notion". Quoted:
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[ So is remaining silent when you're seized at a checkpoint. You troll me, I troll you. That's how the world works. He said he wouldn't do it because they could smell alcohol. Dude, I can look through a window and see your eyes and have reasonable suspicion to conduct fields. I'm not saying right or wrong, so the assholes making licked boot comments can pump the brakes. What I am saying is "don't do what the video says", because......he is lucky it worked, and it seems like the cops were unsure as to legally why they could do what they were doing. A smart cop could have simply asked him to step out of his car and bypassed his "they cant smell me notion". I'm not required to look at you, or cooperate with "field tests," either. It also seems rather spurious to significantly prolong the seizure (by having someone step out) merely because the person legally refuses to speak to you or look at you. The 4th Amendment justification for these checkpoints is that the detention is so incredibly brief. Or ... once again ... the government could just decide to not run these idiotic exercises in trolling hundreds of people. |
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Quoted: for real though, if i were a cop and saw this id just wave them through too. no point arguing with someone who is obviously just trying to antagonize the system.  ) |
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I'm no lover of DUI checkpoints, even if I don't drive drunk. I want to be on my way when I drive somewhere. But I don't act like a clown and try to bait the police into something by intentionally driving through one with my "papers" hanging outside the vehicle in a ziplock. Nor, would I do this while trying to fly out of an airport. That's my only point. DUI checkpoints, as well as TSA checkpoints in airports, are a publicly-facing feel-good security/safety joke, but they're here and ain't going away any time soon. Another poster equated DUI checkpoints to law enforcement trolling for drunks. I just +1'd his suggestion. Quoted:
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Not sure if serious. I'm no lover of DUI checkpoints, even if I don't drive drunk. I want to be on my way when I drive somewhere. But I don't act like a clown and try to bait the police into something by intentionally driving through one with my "papers" hanging outside the vehicle in a ziplock. Nor, would I do this while trying to fly out of an airport. That's my only point. DUI checkpoints, as well as TSA checkpoints in airports, are a publicly-facing feel-good security/safety joke, but they're here and ain't going away any time soon. Another poster equated DUI checkpoints to law enforcement trolling for drunks. I just +1'd his suggestion. This. Exactly this. DUI checkpoints are a huge waste of time and money, statistics back that up through and through. If people knew however how easy they were to avoid, they'd realize how stupid this guy is, how much of a troll he is, and why its hilarious to constantly hear people bitch about them. As I stated, read the papers, sue the state, or shut up. |
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I'm no lover of DUI checkpoints, even if I don't drive drunk. I want to be on my way when I drive somewhere. But I don't act like a clown and try to bait the police into something by intentionally driving through one with my "papers" hanging outside the vehicle in a ziplock. Nor, would I do this while trying to fly out of an airport. That's my only point. DUI checkpoints, as well as TSA checkpoints in airports, are a publicly-facing feel-good security/safety joke, but they're here and ain't going away any time soon. Another poster equated DUI checkpoints to law enforcement trolling for drunks. I just +1'd his suggestion. Except if they actually wanted to catch drunks they would use saturation enforcement for DUI which is proven to be more effective while inconveniencing much less innocent people in the process. |
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No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Quoted:
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Trolling driver trolls well. When the government trolls people first, I'm not really upset when someone trolls it back. No different then the TSA inspection to fly on a national carrier. Submit to search, or don't fly. Is the TSA trolling for terrorists too? Yes, they are not there to catch terrorists. They are there to teach you to comply. Security theater. |
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DUI checkpoints are a huge waste of time and money, statistics back that up through and through. If people knew however how easy they were to avoid, they'd realize how stupid this guy is, how much of a troll he is, and why its hilarious to constantly hear people bitch about them. As I stated, read the papers, sue the state, or shut up. If they're such a waste of money and are ineffective, doesn't that just reinforce the notion that they're nothing more than the government trolling motorists? Also, I'm pretty sure "shut up" was exactly this guy's response.
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This. Exactly this. DUI checkpoints are a huge waste of time and money, statistics back that up through and through. If people knew however how easy they were to avoid, they'd realize how stupid this guy is, how much of a troll he is, and why its hilarious to constantly hear people bitch about them. As I stated, read the papers, sue the state, or shut up. But you told us what you would do at one. Is it okay to waste money as long as it's someone else's? |
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I do agree with a lot of the comment, if you are drunk why the f**k are you driving! and you deserve to get thrown in jail.
The only time i would find this acceptable would be if youre at that just over the BAC level state. Like you are fine to drive but might risk getting a 0.09 BAC or something just over the limit, in which case this could be a easy way to get past a check point or if nothing else it might confuse the police long enough while they contact an attorney or ask their boss if they can force you out of the car, etc for your BAC to drop to a legal level. But if you really want this to work you would have to have the baggie, string, papers printed, cameras, etc... all ready to go plus you would have to appear not drunk and look as if you were some sort of freedom fighter against the abuse of unjust laws and not some sloppy drunk on the way home from the bar, its much less convincing when they look in the window and see you cant keep your eyes open and are covered in puke and there are empty beer bottles on the ground. |
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I do agree with a lot of the comment, if you are drunk why the f**k are you driving! and you deserve to get thrown in jail. The only time i would find this acceptable would be if youre at that just over the BAC level state. Like you are fine to drive but might risk getting a 0.09 BAC or something just over the limit, in which case this could be a easy way to get past a check point or if nothing else it might confuse the police long enough while they contact an attorney or ask their boss if they can force you out of the car, etc for your BAC to drop to a legal level. How about if I'm completely sober but I'm just annoyed at being seized while driving for no reason? |
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He said he wouldn't do it because they could smell alcohol. Dude, I can look through a window and see your eyes and have reasonable suspicion to conduct fields. I'm not saying right or wrong, so the assholes making licked boot comments can pump the brakes. What I am saying is "don't do what the video says", because......he is lucky it worked, and it seems like the cops were unsure as to legally why they could do what they were doing. A smart cop could have simply asked him to step out of his car and bypassed his "they cant smell me notion". Based on what? The SCOTUS case on sobriety checkpoints relied on the very brief nature of the detention to allow it pass constitutional muster IIRC. Prolong the detention by asking someone to leave the car when you have no RS simply because the guy relies on his constitutional right not to interact with you and I think the driver has a good case for unlawful detention. |
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.Gov has succeeded in brainwashing the masses into thinking they man checkpoints to save people from drunk drivers. It all comes down to one word, revenue. Wrong. If you knew how much the .Gov spent on checkpoints and how they make virtually no DUI arrests on any of them, you'd know its a public relations issue, not a revenue issue. Most of the ones you see are done paying officers overtime and funded by state/FED grants......not by the municipalities running them. Its all PR, has nothing to do with arrests....if that was the case nobody would do them. Officers on patrol get way more DUI's than checkpoints. Sorry, the only people brainwashed into believing what you typed having been brainwashed by the gov. They've been brainwashed by an inability to do any research or flat out ignorance and a nasty tendency to speak or type about stuff they know nothing about. |
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The SCOTUS case on sobriety checkpoints relied on the very brief nature of the detention to allow it pass constitutional muster IIRC. Prolong the detention by asking someone to leave the car when you have no RS simply because the guy relies on his constitutional right not to interact with you and I think the driver has a good case for unlawful detention. But somebody else will pay for that settlement.
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| I have to say Im pretty impressed with the creativity of the driver. But they still have the ability to ask him to step out of the vehicle. At least in Arkansas anyway. But I think its even funnier that it did not get the reaction he wanted. And yes he wanted a reaction from the Officers. He had to add in that the officers reaction was funny at the end of the video. So in my opinion the driver was the one who lost. The cops still get a paycheck and the drunk behind him will get caught. While the driver will spend most of his day and time stressing out about something that literally does not effect him if he just rolled down the window and engaged in friendly conversation. Had he been polite and courteous I have no doubt the Officers would have done the same and both would have parted ways feeling better about the encounter. But fuck no...not in this country. We have to fucking turn everything into a god damn conspiracy. When the fuck are we going to grow up as a country? This saddens me greatly when I see so much of this behavior from both sides. |