[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cheating SO/GF? Track them. (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/26/2014 11:15:55 PM EDT
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-abusers-using-spyware-apps-to-monitor-partners-reaches-epidemic-proportions-9945881.html
I'm not advocating such behavior just making the hive aware. |
I thought this was appropriate due to all the recent threads about ejecting.
Now here is where it gets interesting. If you're SO or soon-to-be ex girlfriend is texting booty pictures to the cheating other half apparently these spyware programs can capture those pictures. I am morally torn on this particular subject as it is a clear violation of personal privacy etc etc. . However, if you are in the throes of a very very expensive divorce, perhaps these tactics can help someone here. Proceed at your own risk, peril, expense, and responsibility. 
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If you gotta do all that shit, then you should just break up and go on your way... Shit... http://claimyourjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/screen-shot-2013-01-20-at-10-26-50-pm.png Agreed. When you get to the point where you need this stuff, you don't need this stuff. |
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy.
Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book. 
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" This and that. |
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If you gotta do all that shit, then you should just break up and go on your way... Shit... http://claimyourjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/screen-shot-2013-01-20-at-10-26-50-pm.png Agreed. When you get to the point where you need this stuff, you don't need this stuff. It's silly... |
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But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Depends on where you live. My buddy's wife is a divorce lawyer on Long Island. We were all talking about a co-worker who's wife was cheating and I said he should hire a PI to get her on video. The lawyer chick told me you could have your wife on video fucking another guy and wouldn't make a difference, she'd still get your shit. (My old Lt. who's a divorce lawyer agreed) Of course she was banging another lawyer at her firm and divorced my buddy a few years later and took half his pension. |
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" This and that. Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. |
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Yep it doesn't matter who cheats anymore All they care about is your getting a divorce, who gets the kids, who is paying child support and how she is getting half of your shit. Free Quoted: Depends on where you live. My buddy's wife is a divorce lawyer on Long Island. We were all talking about a co-worker who's wife was cheating and I said he should hire a PI to get her on video. The lawyer chick told me you could have your wife on video fucking another guy and wouldn't make a difference, she'd still get your shit. (My old Lt. who's a divorce lawyer agreed) Of course she was banging another lawyer at her firm and divorced my buddy a few years later and took half his pension. Quoted: Quoted: But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Depends on where you live. My buddy's wife is a divorce lawyer on Long Island. We were all talking about a co-worker who's wife was cheating and I said he should hire a PI to get her on video. The lawyer chick told me you could have your wife on video fucking another guy and wouldn't make a difference, she'd still get your shit. (My old Lt. who's a divorce lawyer agreed) Of course she was banging another lawyer at her firm and divorced my buddy a few years later and took half his pension. |
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I went to college with this one guy from Belarus. We took a few math classes and a physics class together. He got a super hot girlfriend, and went all fucking KGB/Gestapo on her. He whipped up a trojan in javascript, which let him turn on her laptop webcam/microphone without turning on the webcam light. He got a fuck ton of shit on her phone, SMS/MMS sniffers, he could see every keystroke, he could activate the phone's camera/mic to see and listen in, et cetera. He caught her cheating, and one evening when she was at his apartment, he flipped on the tv, and played a video of her getting fucked by some other guy.
He went crazy and sent her sex tapes to her friends, family, and coworkers, and I think he ended up getting sued quite a bit in damages. |
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If you gotta do all that shit, then you should just break up and go on your way... Shit... http://claimyourjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/screen-shot-2013-01-20-at-10-26-50-pm.png What she said. |
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Quoted: I went to college with this one guy from Belarus. We took a few math classes and a physics class together. He got a super hot girlfriend, and went all fucking KGB/Gestapo on her. He whipped up a trojan in javascript, which let him turn on her laptop webcam/microphone without turning on the webcam light. He got a fuck ton of shit on her phone, SMS/MMS sniffers, he could see every keystroke, he could activate the phone's camera/mic to see and listen in, et cetera. He caught her cheating, and one evening when she was at his apartment, he flipped on the tv, and played a video of her getting fucked by some other guy. He went crazy and sent her sex tapes to her friends, family, and coworkers, and I think he ended up getting sued quite a bit in damages. I didn't know that was possible |
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If you don't think spouses can hide money in modern times you were highly mistaken. For example spouse goes out with girlfriends uses your credit card or joint credit card for $80 worth of drinks when she only spent $25 personally and then her girlfriends give her $55 cash.
Spouce goes to the supermarket buys $50 in groceries gets $50 cash back and you just simply see a debit from your checking account for $100. If she does those once it's not huge but if she does over the course of five or six years you can add up to tens of thousands of dollars. Quoted:
Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. Quoted:
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" This and that. Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. |
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" It's the first thing they teach you 
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I went to college with this one guy from Belarus. We took a few math classes and a physics class together. He got a super hot girlfriend, and went all fucking KGB/Gestapo on her. He whipped up a trojan in javascript, which let him turn on her laptop webcam/microphone without turning on the webcam light. He got a fuck ton of shit on her phone, SMS/MMS sniffers, he could see every keystroke, he could activate the phone's camera/mic to see and listen in, et cetera. He caught her cheating, and one evening when she was at his apartment, he flipped on the tv, and played a video of her getting fucked by some other guy. He went crazy and sent her sex tapes to her friends, family, and coworkers, and I think he ended up getting sued quite a bit in damages.  he should skip the country and go work for the norks. They'd pay him a bundle.
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" This and that. I can say from personal experience that being able to protect yourself financially is pretty valuable. In my case, if I had been able to monitor her use of my computer with a key logger, it would have told me that she was raiding our 'mutual' checking account for $11k, and where she was banking. I can also see a legitimate reason for a husband who is staring down a divorce to want to do a credit check on a spouse or use a monitoring program to make sure she doesn't have 7 maxed out credit cards he doesn't know about but will have to pay off after the divorce is settled. Pretty common these days for the woman to walk out without any of the marital debt and husband goes along with it because he thinks he knows what the household finances are like, only to get a real wake up call when he finds out she went on a mad shopping spree for 3 years leading up to the divorce and completely furnished her new life by mortgaging his future... |
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Well the what the fuck is the point in getting married, arfcom?
If you can see the potential utility in using technology to spy on your wife, then why get married in the first place? No. Seriously. Be honest here. Some of you guys parade the 4th amendment. Ra.. Ra.. Fuck that patriot act! FUCK YOU NSA!!! Government travesties! But holy fuck, she may be cheating! Bug that fucking phone, guys! It's the only safe way. Some of you guys are downright depressing at times. I'm not speaking to the whole of arfcom. Just the moral relativists. And yet some of you are the same people that play the "You shoulda known..." "stupid games.. stupid prizes routine." Land of the free. I'm not in too great of a mood as it is. Here we have another womenz troubke thread. Great. |
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Well the what the fuck is the point in getting married, arfcom? If you can see the potential utility in using technology to spy on your wife, then why get married in the first place? No. Seriously. Be honest here. Some of you guys parade the 4th amendment. Ra.. Ra.. Fuck that patriot act! FUCK YOU NSA!!! Government travesties! But holy fuck, she may be cheating! Bug that fucking phone, guys! It's the only safe way. Some of you guys are downright depressing at times. I'm not speaking to the whole of arfcom. Just the moral relativists. And yet some of you are the same people that play the "You shoulda known..." "stupid games.. stupid prizes routine." Land of the free. I'm not in too great of a mood as it is. Here we have another womenz troubke thread. Great. They happen at least 1 every two days...Quite depressing actually.... |
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Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. Quoted:
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Yes yes perhaps a few of you are correct in saying that if you're just dating then maybe this would not be appropriate. But again if you're facing a particularly messy divorce this will come in handy. Friends of mine that have gotten divorced have mostly found out that money was hidden well in advance of a divorce. In addition lots of other financial finagling took place. When you get married you essentially invite the man into your life when you decide to get divorced this is a way perhaps to get the upper hand. Anyone that's been divorced knows that your opposing attorney, if he's any good, well tell your spouse to use every dirty rotten trick in the book.
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If you must resort to tracking and spying i say its time to leave anyway. When the trust us gone eject. This. "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" This and that. Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. It would be extremely difficult for my wife to track our assets without my help. Bank accounts are one thing, but the lions share of our wealth is tied up in investments through different trusts, llcs, etc. She doesn't deal with any of that. She is the love of my life and I don't hide anything from her. I actually update "in case of death" instructions monthly so she would know where everything is if I passed. But the idea that it would be hard to hide assets from a spouse is just not true. |
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Well the what the fuck is the point in getting married, arfcom? If you can see the potential utility in using technology to spy on your wife, then why get married in the first place? No. Seriously. Be honest here. Some of you guys parade the 4th amendment. Ra.. Ra.. Fuck that patriot act! FUCK YOU NSA!!! Government travesties! But holy fuck, she may be cheating! Bug that fucking phone, guys! It's the only safe way. Some of you guys are downright depressing at times. I'm not speaking to the whole of arfcom. Just the moral relativists. And yet some of you are the same people that play the "You shoulda known..." "stupid games.. stupid prizes routine." Land of the free. I'm not in too great of a mood as it is. Here we have another womenz troubke thread. Great. The point of getting married is finding someone you love more than life itself and want to share your life with. I am the luckiest man in the world and would do it 10 times over again. Everything I do is for the betterment of my wife and family. I'm the luckiest man in the world. Sorry arfcom has some depressing threads, but not everyone is like that. |
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It would be extremely difficult for my wife to track our assets without my help. Bank accounts are one thing, but the lions share of our wealth is tied up in investments through different trusts, llcs, etc. She doesn't deal with any of that. She is the love of my life and I don't hide anything from her. I actually update "in case of death" instructions monthly so she would know where everything is if I passed. But the idea that it would be hard to hide assets from a spouse is just not true. Lexis Nexis and The Work Number...they gots all yo' shit dude |
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Well the what the fuck is the point in getting married, arfcom? If you can see the potential utility in using technology to spy on your wife, then why get married in the first place? No. Seriously. Be honest here. Some of you guys parade the 4th amendment. Ra.. Ra.. Fuck that patriot act! FUCK YOU NSA!!! Government travesties! But holy fuck, she may be cheating! Bug that fucking phone, guys! It's the only safe way. Some of you guys are downright depressing at times. I'm not speaking to the whole of arfcom. Just the moral relativists. And yet some of you are the same people that play the "You shoulda known..." "stupid games.. stupid prizes routine." Land of the free. I'm not in too great of a mood as it is. Here we have another womenz troubke thread. Great. The difference is...and I shouldn't have to point this out... Is that the "contract"...The Constitution... between the government and the governed specifically lists the government should not do. Whereas, 99% of the relationships have no such contract. It is implied though that if there is a steady live in relationship the parties involved are expected to behave like X. Throw marriage vows into the mix and the "contract" becomes a little more concrete. The other thing you have to keep in mind is that GD is a lot like flipping on the 5 o'clock TV news. How many positive, uplifting news stories do you hear about? Salience bias and "if it bleeds, it leads" makes stuff move to your mind's front burner. |
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Sounds like a good way to invite trouble and expensive legal fees into your life It worked out good for me in both divorces. As a marriage starts to derail, finding out the SO is on her way to max out the credit cards was good to know. I canceled them all before any damage occurred. The second divorce I had enough info to win the case handily. Had I just "walked away" from either I would have paid dearly. |
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It would be extremely difficult for my wife to track our assets without my help. Bank accounts are one thing, but the lions share of our wealth is tied up in investments through different trusts, llcs, etc. She doesn't deal with any of that. She is the love of my life and I don't hide anything from her. I actually update "in case of death" instructions monthly so she would know where everything is if I passed. But the idea that it would be hard to hide assets from a spouse is just not true. Quoted:
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Nope. The vast majority will be inadmissible in a civil proceeding in virtually every jurisdiction in the US since it would be against the law in all of those places to do most of the things that article wrings its hands about. I'd like to know how a spouse "hides money" in a relationship. My wife and I simply *can't* seem to do that to each other since our money is ... well ... *our* money. Fuck, I can't even buy her a gift online without her seeing the charge pop up in our account. It's my estimation that any relationship where the finances are so disentagled that one spouse ia capable of "hiding money" is just about dead, anyway. Like has been said before, like I tell clients by the dozens who ask me about this stuff, just leave. Who cares if you caught them. You don't trust them and there is, therefore, nothing left to save. It would be extremely difficult for my wife to track our assets without my help. Bank accounts are one thing, but the lions share of our wealth is tied up in investments through different trusts, llcs, etc. She doesn't deal with any of that. She is the love of my life and I don't hide anything from her. I actually update "in case of death" instructions monthly so she would know where everything is if I passed. But the idea that it would be hard to hide assets from a spouse is just not true. I suspect your wife, were she interested, could get the hang of tracking your assets over the course of a weekend. She simply doesn't "know how" because she doesn't feel the need to be involved since "you handle all of that." That's pretty common in many relationships. My parents were the same way. My mom paid all of the bills from the checking account and never bothered to figured out how that money got there or even if that's all the money there was. My father died of a massive heart attack at 58 years old. My mom was finding investment accounts for 5 years after his death. What a stupid way to run your life. (theirs, not yours) If he had done the "in case of death" instructions, my mom's life would have been much better after his passing. If she had bothered to concern herself with the financial interests of the family, there would have been no need for instructions. My wife and I have a weekly meeting (usually less than 10 minutes in duration) about our financial health. We have daily discussions about where we are and where we're going, financially. We check in with each other on large purchases. We notice spending trends and discuss them with each other. We have a budget that accounts for our spending to within 20 dollars a month (took a decade of tweaking to get there). It may be possible for my wife to use grocery store cash back and the "bought a round got cash from friends" game to make a couple of hundred dollars in untraceable income a year but, then, she isn't building a new life on that kind of scratch. |
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I disagree, I caught my second wife by tracking her bullshit online.
I know its not admissible in court, but that's not the point. Nothing like confronting them with indisputable truth. Bitches like to cheat. Suits me fine long as I am not paying for their free ride. Wont wash in court but does give you the high ground when the bitch starts thinking it all should be hers. |
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Does anyone here track a willing person via a GPS app? I'd totally be into that. A cyber-leash? Can't track on the willing... 
Personally, if I had grown that paranoid of my wife I'd just throw it all out in the open and risk ending the relationship. You accept another person's baggage when you make them part of your life, but paranoia shouldn't be part of it. |
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Does anyone here track a willing person via a GPS app? I'd totally be into that. Android Device Manager |
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A cyber-leash? Can't track on the willing...
Personally, if I had grown that paranoid of my wife I'd just throw it all out in the open and risk ending the relationship. You accept another person's baggage when you make them part of your life, but paranoia shouldn't be part of it. Quoted:
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Does anyone here track a willing person via a GPS app? I'd totally be into that. A cyber-leash? Can't track on the willing...
Personally, if I had grown that paranoid of my wife I'd just throw it all out in the open and risk ending the relationship. You accept another person's baggage when you make them part of your life, but paranoia shouldn't be part of it. I'd feel safer if my position were known at all times to someone who really cares and who I want to know what I'm up to. Someone who would react if I showed up in the wrong place or moving out of town without warning. |
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Does anyone here track a willing person via a GPS app? I'd totally be into that. Android Device Manager How would a person on an android track a person with an iphone? |
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Does anyone here track a willing person via a GPS app? I'd totally be into that. Android Device Manager How would a person on an android track a person with an iphone? https://www.apple.com/support/iphone/find/ |