[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Job Suggestions (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/5/2014 7:41:23 PM EDT
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My Brother is 22 years old and currently a painter in RI. He's got a GED and some college credit. No criminal record and a good driving record. He is currently living with my mom who would like to retire to FL. He has no debt or real bills besides a cell phone so i got him really interested in the Military. He went today to talk to a recruiter and was denied at the door because of tattoos on his forearms. I feel pretty bad i didnt think of his tattoos. I want him to move out here to Fort Bragg and live with me while he finds his thing.
What kind of jobs can you all think of that could lead to a career? Not looking for dead end jobs or smart ass remarks. |
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Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. |
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My Brother is 22 years old and currently a painter in RI. He's got a GED and some college credit. No criminal record and a good driving record. He is currently living with my mom who would like to retire to FL. He has no debt or real bills besides a cell phone so i got him really interested in the Military. He went today to talk to a recruiter and was denied at the door because of tattoos on his forearms. I feel pretty bad i didnt think of his tattoos. I want him to move out here to Fort Bragg and live with me while he finds his thing. What kind of jobs can you all think of that could lead to a career? Not looking for dead end jobs or smart ass remarks. He already has one he can turn into a career. The painters for the healthcare group I work for make over 20 bucks/hr. Also with full benefits and what not. |
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RN. Can't be outsourced and it's instant middle class. Another good option, if you can handle bitching sick people. Then get prescribing credentials like a PA or Nurse Practitioner. My Stepdad is an MD that has a couple that work for him and they make damn good money. |
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RN. Can't be outsourced and it's instant middle class. RN's CAN be outsourced. They are trying to do it to a lot of the units in the healthcare group I work for. You have companies out there that supply nurses to hospitals that will replace the ones you have already. Gets the hospital out of having to pay benefits and deal with scheduling and what not. |
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Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. I know plenty of guys my age that never went to college or didn't complete high school that are making more than average joe money. A good friend of mine has his GED, he is running a 20 man crew right now and making a lot more than I do. All through working various jobs and taking on responsibility as the chance presented itself. |
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I know plenty of guys my age that never went to college or didn't complete high school that are making more than average joe money. A good friend of mine has his GED, he is running a 20 man crew right now and making a lot more than I do. All through working various jobs and taking on responsibility as the chance presented itself. Quoted:
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Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. I know plenty of guys my age that never went to college or didn't complete high school that are making more than average joe money. A good friend of mine has his GED, he is running a 20 man crew right now and making a lot more than I do. All through working various jobs and taking on responsibility as the chance presented itself. Yes it happens but not often also you have to look at the big picture such as what happens if that job dries up and he only has a GED education. I know a guy that landed a great job out of high school at a car dealership making very good money in a small town but when the dealership was acquired by new owners years later his good paying job was given to one of the owners family members. He now works at a building supply store making below poverty wages trying to support a family while taking college classes during the night at a community college. No matter how good of a job someone has I never understood why they don't invest in themselves by obtaining an education. |
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Like others said, the trades are always viable, but it does take a few years of shit work.
Even if you don't go union you can always go work for a guy that needs a helper and learn. I go trough a few concrete laborers a year, it really does suck, but the pay is like $15-$20/hour and it doesn't take too long to start picking up tricks. Lots of guys won't stick it out through the shit work to actually learn anything useful though. |
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Take 4 college classes, spend $300 to take his CCNA, get a job working in a NOC for $18+ an hour (probably over $20, but wanted to cover the low end) and get more computer certs from there. In under 2 years he could be (in the Dallas area) making $70 k/yr or more.
I have a GED, a few college classes, no degree, and I make decent money. Will make more as I add more certifications. I must admit my failure though, I'm ex US Navy and I have no tattoos. |
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Swimming pool mechanic when early spring rolls in. You must get in the service end of the biz,
going into my 35th year and never been laid off only down to 4 days a week in the winter. The other catch you want be located around uber-rich and in-door commercial pools to keep up winter hours Licences are starting to be required in this biz so now is the time to get in before all Obma's job stealers get in P.S.. the chlorine will bleach out those tats over time 
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Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. So you fault a guy that is trying to better his life? I don't agree with that. To be honest, I was in the same position. Got my shit together at 22, went to flight school/college and have a very good job. Sounds like he is trying to make things better. ETA: OP, what area of Florida is your brother in? NEVERMIND. Saw he is in RI. But what area? Might have some suggestions. |
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Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. Every job ap I've seen asks if the applicant has a HS diploma or GED. Both are on the same question to be checked yes or no. Not all people drop out to party either, some need to work to help the family, or school conditions suck, etc. No to mention some studies have found the GED tests are harder to pass. |
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Brother is not a loser by any means. He did not drop out of school to party, he left to help family in a tough situation. Tattoos could have been placed better. I have nothing against people with tattoos. Ive had some of the best leadership covered in tattoos. I myself have tattoos.
Hes a smart guy, smarter than me and I'm about 15 or so credits away from a Bachelor degree(not saying much anymore these days). Hes a pretty compassionate person i will recommend the RN position. He makes enough money now, thats not really the issue. I think he sees the pride i have being in the Army and wants to have a purpose like i feel i do. As an older brother i will always look out for him no matter if he dropped out of school to help family or smoke meth with the boys in the hood. |
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Tattoos could have been placed better. I have nothing against people with tattoos. But in this case, the military had something against it, and that's what mattered. Yep, so unless that changes we are past that option. Its a shame too. He would make one hell of a solider IMO. |
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There are some real tough asses in this thread. By the age of 22 I was three years into a four year hitch in the Army had just got married and handed orders to Korea the same day. I got my shit together on time, some take longer. If your brother doesn't have any felonies, DUI convictions and his tattoos aren't racially offensive he can try Time Warner Cable, they most always need techs, the pay is half decent and goes up quick, and they don't require any experience when hiring techs. All he really needs is a fairly clean driving and criminal history (they don't disqualify you for minor stuff, as long as it isn't sexual or violent, and on the driving record wreckless driving or DUI). Seriously, they hire regularly and require zero previous experience. |
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Quoted: Your brother is a loser. Let's see - 22 years old, couldn't graduate high school (GED is a joke and a loser red flag), and spent his post-high-school-drop-out time partying and getting tats. "Some college?" What type of classes? Auto mechanics or African-American Latino Disabled Lesbian Transgendered Studies? And now he's looking for a non-dead-end job and his only job skill is he knows which end of the paint brush to hold? Seriously I can go pick up 50 illegals in the nearest Home Depot parking lot that are experienced painters and will work for less than $10/hr. Sorry but your brother chose to squander away his youth and he's not ready for a job. And the lingering evidence of his past stupidity - GED and tats - make him permanently ineligible for a whole host of good paying positions and will severely limit him for the rest of his life. You want to help him? Send him back to school to learn something that's a salable skill. It will probably take about two years to complete a program in something like electrician, plumbing, or HVAC at a local adult occupational center or community college. Until he completes that there is nothing for him today but dead end jobs and living off your mother. |
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Brother is not a loser by any means. He did not drop out of school to party, he left to help family in a tough situation. Tattoos could have been placed better. I have nothing against people with tattoos. Ive had some of the best leadership covered in tattoos. I myself have tattoos. Hes a smart guy, smarter than me and I'm about 15 or so credits away from a Bachelor degree(not saying much anymore these days). Hes a pretty compassionate person i will recommend the RN position. He makes enough money now, thats not really the issue. I think he sees the pride i have being in the Army and wants to have a purpose like i feel i do. As an older brother i will always look out for him no matter if he dropped out of school to help family or smoke meth with the boys in the hood. You're a good brother. Wish you both the best of luck. |
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Quoted: Tell him to get a CDL and drive for a living. Most of the "smart kids" I know, who went to a 4 year college (who made fun of me for deciding to become a truck driver) are now either jobless or working some minimum wage, dead end job, with a shitload of school loans to pay off. |
| I'm an engineer on a supply boat working in support of offshore oil. Ive been offshore ten years and the oilfield has been very, very good to me. I don't have a degree. The first job is always the hardest to land, with no previous experience it takes time to get hired but almost everyone comes to this field without previous experience. Even today college grads and academy guys are the minority. Some guys work 3 weeks on 3 weeks off, others 6/3. Full benefits 401k, etc. Our lowest paid deck hands make $330/day. Put in a few years and get a assistant engineer job or a training mate slot and pay is $500-600/day. Stay a while longer and chief or captain pay in my company is $800-950/day. No regrets here...Tattoos and a GED certainly not a problem. |
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Welding might not be bad. I've got some buddies that got into it during and after high school that people made fun of at the time. They have less school debt and are making damn good money now. A few of them have more ink than skin at this point I've heard the AWS has some decent scholarship opportunities available as well but I'm not quite sure how those work. Maybe something to look into. |
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I started out painting. Did it for six months before I got into building, got my contractor's license a few years later. There is good money to be made in construction if you apply yourself and you're good with people. It has it's low points on occasion but I wouldn't want to do anything else. He should get out of painting though. I was the only guy on that crew that wasn't a drunk, junkie or felon.
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came to post this - if he's got the smarts for it...
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RN. Can't be outsourced and it's instant middle class. came to post this - if he's got the smarts for it...
That was fantastic advice 20 years ago. Not so much any more unless you're willing to work in the AIDS sector of dying homo land. Even level III NICU nurses (cream of the crop, empathetic, smart, focused, engaged, diligent, capable, functional) actually compete to get hours now. Not a terrible gig by any means, but also not the tried and true wisdom of decades gone by. |
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The CDL or oil platform deck hand recommendations are solid answers to take someone from zero to hero overnight. If you can hang, you can make money and are suddenly independent of mom. They are single people jobs though. Not conducive to raising a family and having a fulfilled life.
Getting in with a utility is a good gig (power, water, sewer, natural gas). Whatever he does as an immediate next step, he should be applying to whatever apprenticeship programs and entry level positions are available with the utility infrastructure. It takes a long time to get on ..... because everyone hangs on to those jobs. |
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That was fantastic advice 20 years ago. Not so much any more unless you're willing to work in the AIDS sector of dying homo land. Even level III NICU nurses (cream of the crop, empathetic, smart, focused, engaged, diligent, capable, functional) actually compete to get hours now. Not a terrible gig by any means, but also not the tried and true wisdom of decades gone by. Quoted:
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RN. Can't be outsourced and it's instant middle class. came to post this - if he's got the smarts for it...
That was fantastic advice 20 years ago. Not so much any more unless you're willing to work in the AIDS sector of dying homo land. Even level III NICU nurses (cream of the crop, empathetic, smart, focused, engaged, diligent, capable, functional) actually compete to get hours now. Not a terrible gig by any means, but also not the tried and true wisdom of decades gone by. My wife works in hospital administration and you are correct, the market for nurses is so saturated these days that many can't find a job and the pay is not that great. RN's here start around 22 a hour and you need to be a four year RN, LPN's and even 2 year RN's are not hired and end up working at doctors offices and nurses homes making even shittier money. |
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Get him on a river tow on the Ohio or Mississippi. If he pays attention and sticks it out, he can have job inside the tug in a couple of years, and it's possible to be pilot if he works for the job.
Or it can be two weeks on the deck working for beer money, two weeks off, rinse and repeat. |
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I started out painting. Did it for six months before I got into building, got my contractor's license a few years later. There is good money to be made in construction if you apply yourself and you're good with people. It has it's low points on occasion but I wouldn't want to do anything else. He should get out of painting though. I was the only guy on that crew that wasn't a drunk, junkie or felon. You just described everyone I ever worked with doing commercial and residential painting. 
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