Posted: 2/7/2003 3:07:41 PM EDT
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If SHTF, how long could you hold out at home? What is your level of prep? Do you have enough Water, Food, Medicines? Advanced gear? Ammo? |
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Water? Indefinite. over 200 gallons stored & preserved, 29,000 gallons in the pool and a Katadyn filter with spare cartridge. Ammo - a lifetime, w/plenty to trade Food - month and a 1/2 maybe. weakspot. Medicines - pretty good, but it is trouble spot. I'd have to do a crash course to get my wife off her meds. Advanced gear? Not bad. Good basic stuff, boots, clothes, socks, coats, etc... Still need NVG, some stuff like that. |
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I can do for a LONG time without help. My home is my bug-out plan. It only gets better with time. I'm not worried about making it - I'm worried about being the only person with resources on "my block." The 3-day rule comes to mind - a man's hungry after 1 day without food, willing to steal the 2nd, and willing to kill the 3rd. Surviving the first stage of anything isn't a problem for anyone with meager planning. Black Fox |
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if you are holed up in your home and surrounded by a handful of doomsday anarchist scum you are already pretty much shit out of luck. where are you going to go? Nowhere. they will blast you out or burn you out. I am always amazed at the idiots who hide in their homes when the JBT's come for them. There is no worse place to be. |
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drjarhead - I tend to agree with you, when considering a typical suburban/urban home. Be sure you don't assume or underestimate, though. It just so happens I'm sitting here looking at my BOBs and other provisions (the condition orange reminded me to do my annual maintenance). Always have a backup plan (or two, or three....) Black Fox |
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I live in a fairly rural setting, and as such feel like I could hold out for quite a long time. I have access out my back door to food in wild game and wild foliage. Enough to get by through the winter. I also grow a garden every summer. I have a very good supply of guns and ammo (for both hunting an defensive purposes). My weak spot is water (though I usually have 12-20 gallons of purified water on hand). I have several fresh water sources in very close proximity, and ways to store it for short durations. The only thing lacking is a good purification system. As of now the best I can do is boiling, and bleach. That is one area I need to work on. Over all however, if the SHTF, I plan on staying home. And feel confident that I can make do for a bit. Edited to add that I've never thought much about stocking up on medicen. What sort of over the counter stuff do you guys hoard? |
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Quoted: drjarhead - I tend to agree with you, when considering a typical suburban/urban home. Be sure you don't assume or underestimate, though. It just so happens I'm sitting here looking at my BOBs and other provisions (the condition orange reminded me to do my annual maintenance). Always have a backup plan (or two, or three....) Black Fox Yup, that's the point. Have a couple of backup plans and a couple of avenues of escape. But that requires early warning so either electronic surveillance or a sentry or two. better yet, both. I am far from any suburb and have adequate stores of just about everything. I am not, however, foolish enough to believe that I could hold off even a small force for very long from inside my home. I guess I rather be the guy on the outside laying seige... |
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Survival on foot, or even in a vehicle would be much more difficult than in your home. Unless a true emergency forces you to relocate, your best chance of surviving is at home. Granted, a house is not well defensible against a hoard- too much glass for one thing, but what would make you think that no house- (and the shelter, and bulk storage your home allows) would be better?? Bugging out is always a possibility- assuming there is not a regional quarantine (likely in a bio attack) or you live near a major metro- where you and the 5 million will have to fight for resources along the highway you are all parked on... |
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Quoted: Water? Indefinite. over 200 gallons stored & preserved, 29,000 gallons in the pool and a Katadyn filter with spare cartridge. Ammo - a lifetime, w/plenty to trade Food - month and a 1/2 maybe. weakspot. Medicines - pretty good, but it is trouble spot. I'd have to do a crash course to get my wife off her meds. Advanced gear? Not bad. Good basic stuff, boots, clothes, socks, coats, etc... Still need NVG, some stuff like that. Now, there is a man after my own heart. Keep up the good work F4YR, and get some more food stored up! |
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I figure about six months. Water OK Food OK Heat 3 weeks then the chainsaw comes out Power OK Defense Marginal, Weapons are OK but killing field is limited on two sides. Medical 3 months, This could be an issue but not life threatening. Money OK, on the assumption of limited inflation Warning System OK, I have dogs. |
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Probably just over 1 month. Depending on scenario - I may keep working for little brother (city gov). If S really HTF, I could get my sworn status converted.... Picture a fire engine with a quad .50...It'd sure make venting windows and roofs a lot easier! [;)] Of course, nomex over Level III kevlar? Hmmm. Tango7 |
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Why stay at home? In SHTF cases, the Hun and his minions will be at the Farm, where generations of Huns have managed to cling to a humble, but satisfactory, existence. Let them come to me! They will regret it! Both in this world and in the world to come! Eric The(It'sInTheBlood!)Hun[>]:)] |
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Quoted: Survival on foot, or even in a vehicle would be much more difficult than in your home. Unless a true emergency forces you to relocate, your best chance of surviving is at home. Granted, a house is not well defensible against a hoard- too much glass for one thing, but what would make you think that no house- (and the shelter, and bulk storage your home allows) would be better?? Bugging out is always a possibility- assuming there is not a regional quarantine (likely in a bio attack) or you live near a major metro- where you and the 5 million will have to fight for resources along the highway you are all parked on... Grock, I'd stay in my home as well. I live on a lake, have a hand pump on my well for water also. Plenty of food, ammo, guns, meds, woodburning furnace should I need that, etc. Wild game all around. Just not a place I'd want to be trapped in and if we are talking true SHTF scenario security will be a major issue. That could become your major concern as all the supplies noted above will do you no good when your home's ablaze and you are trying to escape. |
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After 6 mo I will need to supplement my food supply. I intend to start sooner so as to stretch the long term storage stuff. Water; I have a deep well but a generator and about 300 gallons gas for it. That is adequate for a LONG time! Lots of ponds, pools and streams very close to me if the well & generator fails. Need to add more purification capability though. I heat with wood anyway and have adequate supply for balance of winter. Enough oil in the tank for a couple years at survival temperature. Armed to the teeth. My barter is some ammo, some guns and my skills. Have neighbors that will help in defense so I can sleep and forage. I do not consider myself well prepared but think I can get along. The best stash is in your head because it can adjust to changing situations. |
