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11/16/2014 10:48:48 AM EDT
Are you comfortable with a pistol in a holster or a rifle on safe pointed in your direction?

Why or why not?
11/16/2014 11:02:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.
11/16/2014 11:04:19 AM EDT
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4 simple rules have redundancy that requires multiple errors before you can shoot me. Pointing a rifle at me brings you one step closer to shooting me. A rifle on the bench, no. A pistol holstered on a belt , no. Some cocky ass, mother fucker. pointing his rifle at me because "it's on safe" is a no go.
11/16/2014 11:05:33 AM EDT
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.
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I see your reasoning.
11/16/2014 11:05:43 AM EDT
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.
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I don't care if it's in a holster. I don't want it pointed at me. I have no idea of what kind of crud accumulated in some other guy's holster.
11/16/2014 11:05:52 AM EDT
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4 simple rules have redundancy that requires multiple errors before you can shoot me. Pointing a rifle at me brings you one step closer to shooting me. A rifle on the bench, no. A pistol holstered on a belt , no. Some cocky ass, mother fucker. pointing his rifle at me because "it's on safe" is a no go.
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This.
11/16/2014 11:11:24 AM EDT
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I don't care if it's in a holster. I don't want it pointed at me. I have no idea of what kind of crud accumulated in some other guy's holster.
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.

I don't care if it's in a holster. I don't want it pointed at me. I have no idea of what kind of crud accumulated in some other guy's holster.


Or what kind of crud has accumulated in the handgun, or what kind of mechanical failure (parts wear or breakage) could cause a handgun to fire without the trigger being pressed.  The rule is "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot", it is not "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot, except . . . "

Yeah, I think those shoulder holster that point the handgun horizontally are a bad idea.
11/16/2014 11:11:53 AM EDT
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Back when I was younger, I admit to having rented a .22 pistol.

I thought it would be simple, but they put so many Goddamn safeties and decockers and such (with no markings) it wasn't obvious how to take the damn thing off safe!

So I violated a rule - had my finger ON the trigger - but also downrange. I racked it - and it fired.

Hence why I now think Glock pistols are safest.
11/16/2014 11:13:53 AM EDT
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Or what kind of crud has accumulated in the handgun, or what kind of mechanical failure (parts wear or breakage) could cause a handgun to fire without the trigger being pressed.  The rule is "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot", it is not "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot, except . . . "

Yeah, I think those shoulder holster that point the handgun horizontally are a bad idea.
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.

I don't care if it's in a holster. I don't want it pointed at me. I have no idea of what kind of crud accumulated in some other guy's holster.


Or what kind of crud has accumulated in the handgun, or what kind of mechanical failure (parts wear or breakage) could cause a handgun to fire without the trigger being pressed.  The rule is "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot", it is not "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot, except . . . "

Yeah, I think those shoulder holster that point the handgun horizontally are a bad idea.


While I think you're right in a way.. they're 4 rules of firearm "handling", not technically storage.

I routinely violate a rule by AIWB CCWing a Glock. Have yet to have a problem, and I bet my life (literally) that I won't.
11/16/2014 11:16:09 AM EDT
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.
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11/16/2014 1:27:37 PM EDT
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Or what kind of crud has accumulated in the handgun, or what kind of mechanical failure (parts wear or breakage) could cause a handgun to fire without the trigger being pressed.  The rule is "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot", it is not "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot, except . . . "

Yeah, I think those shoulder holster that point the handgun horizontally are a bad idea.
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Yes on pistol, no on rifle. The "why" should be fairly obvious, but pistols in holsters don't just fire themselves. Safeties can fail and arent a substitute for following the four rules, which would prohibit the rifle being pointed at you.

I don't care if it's in a holster. I don't want it pointed at me. I have no idea of what kind of crud accumulated in some other guy's holster.


Or what kind of crud has accumulated in the handgun, or what kind of mechanical failure (parts wear or breakage) could cause a handgun to fire without the trigger being pressed.  The rule is "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot", it is not "Never point a firearm at something you are not prepared to shoot, except . . . "

Yeah, I think those shoulder holster that point the handgun horizontally are a bad idea.


But that would be due to issues during drawing and reholstering, not merely sitting in the holster.
11/16/2014 1:41:40 PM EDT
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I'm not comfortable with an airsoft gun being pointed at me, much less a real gun. Doesn't matter if it s in a holster, on safe, "unloaded" or whatever. That's not ok. Ever.
11/16/2014 1:50:28 PM EDT
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Are you comfortable with a pistol in a holster or a rifle on safe pointed in your direction?

Why or why not?
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No.

Shouldn't it be obvious as to why?????

I have NO faith in other person's level of skill, competency, and/or concern when it comes to MY life.


As my Dad always said about duck hunting out of a boat:  "I will only duck hunt in a boat with two people:  the person who taught me gun safety (his dad,) and the person I taught gun safety to (me.)