[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Organ Donors (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 10/31/2014 1:03:18 AM EDT
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How many of you are organ donors and how many of you oppose it? Just wondering. Bride (no pics) and I were talking about it and it seems many older people are against it yet younger people see the benefits of it. What say you? Oh! and of course poll inbound for those who are inclined to vote. Thank you! |
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. |
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Quoted: I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Quoted: Quoted: Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out.  I was against it at first until I saw the benefits for those in need of them. Its one of those things you have to really be educated on. There are some people who still believe that docs will "let you die" if they find out you are a donor.  |
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I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Quoted:
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Why not just levy some mandatory kidney forfeitures while you're at it there, comrade? |
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Why not just levy some mandatory kidney forfeitures while you're at it there, comrade? Quoted:
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Why not just levy some mandatory kidney forfeitures while you're at it there, comrade? What about my proposal is communistic? You have the right to opt out of the system and always will. You just can't be a hypocrite and benefit from a system you opt out of. |
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What about my proposal is communistic? You have the right to opt out of the system and always will. You just can't be a hypocrite and benefit from a system you opt out of. Quoted:
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Why not just levy some mandatory kidney forfeitures while you're at it there, comrade? What about my proposal is communistic? You have the right to opt out of the system and always will. You just can't be a hypocrite and benefit from a system you opt out of. Your proposal sticks the government's nose even further where it doesn't belong. If Jim Bob needs a liver, his doctor has one to transplant one into him, and Jim Bob has the money to pay for it, it's really no one else's business if Jim Bob is, himself, an organ donor. Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
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Your proposal sticks the government's nose even further where it doesn't belong. If Jim Bob needs a liver, his doctor has one to transplant one into him, and Jim Bob has the money to pay for it, it's really no one else's business if Jim Bob is, himself, an organ donor. Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I agree. In my opinion, those who are not donor should be automatically restricted from receiving donated organs under any circumstance. It should also be an "opt out" system and not opt in. You should automatically be a donor when you are issued your drivers license unless you choose to opt out. Why not just levy some mandatory kidney forfeitures while you're at it there, comrade? What about my proposal is communistic? You have the right to opt out of the system and always will. You just can't be a hypocrite and benefit from a system you opt out of. Your proposal sticks the government's nose even further where it doesn't belong. If Jim Bob needs a liver, his doctor has one to transplant one into him, and Jim Bob has the money to pay for it, it's really no one else's business if Jim Bob is, himself, an organ donor. Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
Please point out to me in my post where I said that. 
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Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
Please point out to me in my post where I said that. The part where you implied anyone who wasn't an organ donor should be barred from receiving organs. |
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The part where you implied anyone who wasn't an organ donor should be barred from receiving organs. Quoted:
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Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
Please point out to me in my post where I said that. The part where you implied anyone who wasn't an organ donor should be barred from receiving organs. It's a basic fairness issue. You aren't willing to donate but are perfectly willing to benefit from other's donations? Fuck off hypocrite. Opt out or opt in, that's your choice. The supply of donated organs is very limited because of so few donors. If it was an opt out system instead of an opt in one the supply would increase dramatically. |
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It's a basic fairness issue. You aren't willing to donate but are perfectly willing to benefit from other's donations? Fuck off hypocrite. Opt out or opt in, that's your choice. The supply of donated organs is very limited because of so few donors. If it was an opt out system instead of an opt in one the supply would increase dramatically. Quoted:
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Organs are a limited commodity. A commodity with a price control (price limited to $0). Your solution is to mandate supply by forcing everyone to be an organ donor? Jeez, why on earth would anyone think that was communistic?
Please point out to me in my post where I said that. The part where you implied anyone who wasn't an organ donor should be barred from receiving organs. It's a basic fairness issue. You aren't willing to donate but are perfectly willing to benefit from other's donations? Fuck off hypocrite. Opt out or opt in, that's your choice. The supply of donated organs is very limited because of so few donors. If it was an opt out system instead of an opt in one the supply would increase dramatically. The supply would increase dramatically because of the overt threat of denying people necessary medical care. Your solution to a problem of supply caused in part by government interference... is more government interference. Which sounds about par for the course. lol, basic fairness issue. Don't overstate your case there, bud. |
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. Umm, what if I'm still using my organs?  . (That's a Python joke, by the way)
Seriously though, I'm with ya. I'd rather my organs (I'm a donor too) go to help somebody out, than burn up in the crematory. I guess certain religions might object. |
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My wife and I both are--Illinois puts it on your drivers license if you opt in. 
Edit: I used to be an enthusiastic and avid blood donor too. Sadly, the Red Cross no longer wants my blood, due to the anti-gun attitude of the local facility manager. Yet if you are in a high-risk (i.e. gay) category, you may donate. No matter that your blood will be discarded. |
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My only experience with an organ donor / harvesting organization was extremely bad. Fucking ghouls. No, I won't and don't support assholes like that. Please tell us about it. There are some rumors going around that the family of the deceased donor gets stuck with donation-related expenses. |
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Not even 10 minutes after I'd sat holding my Mom's hand and talking to her as she passed away I was told that I had a call at the nurses station. I thought it must be a family member calling. Motherfucking scumbag wanting ALL of my mother's organs. Nevermind the fact that none of her organs were useful, not even her corneas.
Fuck those bastards and I hope they rot in hell. Fuck you |
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Not even 10 minutes after I'd sat holding my Mom's hand and talking to her as she passed away I was told that I had a call at the nurses station. I thought it must be a family member calling. Motherfucking scumbag wanting ALL of my mother's organs. Nevermind the fact that none of her organs were useful, not even her corneas. Fuck those bastards and I hope they rot in hell. Fuck you Oh man, that's rough. Sorry to hear that, brother. I can sort of relate: when my dad passed away, I made the coroners promise that they wouldn't disrespect his body (ie toss him out of the vehicle, or slam him onto the table, etc). He was an organ donor too, but his were riddled with cancer. |
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Quoted: Not even 10 minutes after I'd sat holding my Mom's hand and talking to her as she passed away I was told that I had a call at the nurses station. I thought it must be a family member calling. Motherfucking scumbag wanting ALL of my mother's organs. Nevermind the fact that none of her organs were useful, not even her corneas. Fuck those bastards and I hope they rot in hell. Fuck you There was nothing recoverable?  Physical bonds are tough to cut... your mother may have helped things. Those people that called you - they were not from your local dogfood company.... there was science to happen. But, you prohibited it. EDIT: Fuck them for trying, amiright? |
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Physical bonds are tough to cut... your mother may have helped things. Those people that called you - they were not from your local dogfood company.... there was science to happen. But, you prohibited it. EDIT: Fuck them for trying, amiright? Quoted:
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Not even 10 minutes after I'd sat holding my Mom's hand and talking to her as she passed away I was told that I had a call at the nurses station. I thought it must be a family member calling. Motherfucking scumbag wanting ALL of my mother's organs. Nevermind the fact that none of her organs were useful, not even her corneas. Fuck those bastards and I hope they rot in hell. Fuck you There was nothing recoverable?
Physical bonds are tough to cut... your mother may have helped things. Those people that called you - they were not from your local dogfood company.... there was science to happen. But, you prohibited it. EDIT: Fuck them for trying, amiright? She was a long time diabetic. An amputee. It was a race to see whether her liver or kidneys would give out first. Renal failure won. She had glaucoma and thickened corneas. She had been in a nursing home for over three years. She had a DNR and was not an organ donor. So yeah, fuck those ghouls. Just off the phone telling my sister that our Mom had died and some fucking shithead hectoring me for her body parts. No. |
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I have nothing against donating organs, alive (if relevant, of course) or otherwise. I do have a huge problem with some really fucked up shit I've seen pertaining to organ donors and post-accident medical treatment. |
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Quoted: She was a long time diabetic. An amputee. It was a race to see whether her liver or kidneys would give out first. Renal failure won. She had glaucoma and thickened corneas. She had been in a nursing home for over three years. She had a DNR and was not an organ donor. So yeah, fuck those ghouls. Just off the phone telling my sister that our Mom had died and some fucking shithead hectoring me for her body parts. No. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not even 10 minutes after I'd sat holding my Mom's hand and talking to her as she passed away I was told that I had a call at the nurses station. I thought it must be a family member calling. Motherfucking scumbag wanting ALL of my mother's organs. Nevermind the fact that none of her organs were useful, not even her corneas. Fuck those bastards and I hope they rot in hell. Fuck you There was nothing recoverable? Physical bonds are tough to cut... your mother may have helped things. Those people that called you - they were not from your local dogfood company.... there was science to happen. But, you prohibited it. EDIT: Fuck them for trying, amiright? She was a long time diabetic. An amputee. It was a race to see whether her liver or kidneys would give out first. Renal failure won. She had glaucoma and thickened corneas. She had been in a nursing home for over three years. She had a DNR and was not an organ donor. So yeah, fuck those ghouls. Just off the phone telling my sister that our Mom had died and some fucking shithead hectoring me for her body parts. No. If the internal components were not useful, the parts would likely have gone to help prevent some problems, for others, which she had. Freshness counts - as bad as that sounds  |
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I have nothing against donating organs, alive (if relevant, of course) or otherwise. I do have a huge problem with some really fucked up shit I've seen pertaining to organ donors and post-accident medical treatment. Quoted:
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Under what circumstances would anyone possibly be against it? Full disclosure: I am a donor recipient. I have nothing against donating organs, alive (if relevant, of course) or otherwise. I do have a huge problem with some really fucked up shit I've seen pertaining to organ donors and post-accident medical treatment. Share it with us. |
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Care to elaborate? I'm an organ donor and looking for an excuse not to be. Quoted:
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My only experience with an organ donor / harvesting organization was extremely bad. Fucking ghouls. No, I won't and don't support assholes like that. Care to elaborate? I'm an organ donor and looking for an excuse not to be. Read up a few posts. I certainly have nothing against donors. I just had an experience so bad with a harvester that it turned me off forever. What I experienced was callous and wrong. So yes, my sample size of one is enough for me. |