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10/29/2014 9:04:49 PM EDT
Looks like they came out with 4 new single stack models. All of them come with a 9mm conversion kit.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/29/rock-island-armory-22-tcm-single-stack-pistol/#
10/29/2014 9:07:29 PM EDT
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The only time I have heard of the TCM is in gun rags.  Is it really available?  Seems like a cool alternative to the .22mag for people who may be recoil sensitive but want a more reliably handgun than what your semi auto rimfires have to offer, but don't want to spend the money on a 5.7.
10/29/2014 9:07:36 PM EDT
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While I don't own any RIA stuff, I applaud them for trying something a little different. And realizing that the .22 TCM may flop and the 9mm conversion won't leave customers who gave them a chance with a paperweight.
10/29/2014 9:20:12 PM EDT
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They should have made it .22LR/9mm
10/29/2014 9:24:12 PM EDT
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The beauty of the tcm is that both 9mm and tcm will fit in the same mag. I fingered a combo kit at my lgs. I'd have it. Tcm ammo was about $18 per 50
10/29/2014 9:26:58 PM EDT
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And ballistically, the TCM cartridge has a lot of potential.  I can see loadings for it comparing favorably with 5.7 and 4.6mm.
10/29/2014 9:30:41 PM EDT
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I've been interested to shoot it. Ultimately, I'd probably just buy a RIA 9mm 1911 just to try out that round in a 1911 platform.

My current 1911 is chambered in 45 as God and JMB intended
10/29/2014 9:38:22 PM EDT
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Waiting for a 22TCM/9MM CCO  
10/29/2014 9:38:54 PM EDT
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Yes please
10/29/2014 9:56:33 PM EDT
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Mine is the double stack and it is an impressive little cartridge. No recoil to speak of and very accurate. I've killed racoons, opossums and 3 coyotes with it. (all the 'yotes were inside 75 yards when shot and 2 were DRT and the third ran about 40 yards before dropping.)

I lucked into about 1000 rounds of ammo at a local shop and bought dies and more ammo off CL. I'm very happy with it.

This is my third TCM (sold the others to friends) and I will probably try out the single stack for shits 'n giggles.

I'm also getting ready to build a bolt rifle in .22 TCM to try out.
10/29/2014 10:01:25 PM EDT
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The only time I have heard of the TCM is in gun rags.  Is it really available?  Seems like a cool alternative to the .22mag for people who may be recoil sensitive but want a more reliably handgun than what your semi auto rimfires have to offer, but don't want to spend the money on a 5.7.
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They're out there.  In fact they seem to be the only double stack RIAs I can find anymore.
10/29/2014 11:51:48 PM EDT
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Anyone making a Glock bbl for it yet?
10/29/2014 11:53:42 PM EDT
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The 22TCM is a cool little round. We've sold a bunch of the pistols and everybody that got one loved it.
10/30/2014 12:24:08 AM EDT
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I like guns that are loud and have a nice flash, will someday be getting one.
10/30/2014 12:26:02 AM EDT
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Old_Painless did a nice write up on the round recently. Sounds interesting.
10/30/2014 12:37:27 AM EDT
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The shop I work at has a glock converted for it, the bad part about it is, it needs a different type of .22 TCM ammo because of the design of the glock magazine.  The normal rounds wont fit, so the rounds for the glock basically look like someone loaded the bullet backwards into the case.  It has been in the shop for a while now.  



We have sold quite a few of the .22 TCM pistols from Rock  Island here, and have a good deal of ammo, then again we also have Rock Island right up there street here in Pahrump NV



 
10/30/2014 12:43:02 AM EDT
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The .22 TCM has almost no recoil.  Although, considering that the example I shot (Big Shots in Lincoln, NE) was a double stack it's not really a surprise.  I will say it could certainly use a flash hider, I'm not kidding either!

It was a lot of fun to shoot, and I would buy one if I had "toy" money that's for sure but right now I do not.
10/30/2014 1:00:04 AM EDT
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OMFG!

i could 224 Boz that bitch!
10/30/2014 1:00:41 AM EDT
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The shop I work at has a glock converted for it, the bad part about it is, it needs a different type of .22 TCM ammo because of the design of the glock magazine.  The normal rounds wont fit, so the rounds for the glock basically look like someone loaded the bullet backwards into the case.  It has been in the shop for a while now.  

We have sold quite a few of the .22 TCM pistols from Rock  Island here, and have a good deal of ammo, then again we also have Rock Island right up there street here in Pahrump NV  
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The shop I work at has a glock converted for it, the bad part about it is, it needs a different type of .22 TCM ammo because of the design of the glock magazine.  The normal rounds wont fit, so the rounds for the glock basically look like someone loaded the bullet backwards into the case.  It has been in the shop for a while now.  

We have sold quite a few of the .22 TCM pistols from Rock  Island here, and have a good deal of ammo, then again we also have Rock Island right up there street here in Pahrump NV  


Sounds like the Glock conversions will need a .45" or 10mm frame then.  Be interesting to see what it would do w/ an 8" or 10" bbl.
10/30/2014 1:02:00 AM EDT
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Calm down, Mr McNasty.  Stick to the plan.  You're the Quiet Man now, remember?  You're all about the quiet - the quiet 200 grn .30" fist of God, right?
10/30/2014 1:13:04 AM EDT
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Tag.
10/30/2014 1:33:02 AM EDT
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Calm down, Mr McNasty.  Stick to the plan.  You're the Quiet Man now, remember?  You're all about the quiet - the quiet 200 grn .30" fist of God, right?


Its 220Gr.. jackets for batch 2 is done..

Any way this looks like I could grab a barrel then ream out for Boz then drop it into my Delta Elite.. OH man!
10/30/2014 1:53:58 AM EDT
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Considering it has more case capacity than 5.7x28, it should be superior.
10/30/2014 1:56:25 AM EDT
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What was holding you back?

1911 frame, 9mm slide, .38 Super mags, special barrel. That's all this gun is. Only thing really new is the barrel.
10/30/2014 2:00:12 AM EDT
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Considering it has more case capacity than 5.7x28, it should be superior.
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And ballistically, the TCM cartridge has a lot of potential.  I can see loadings for it comparing favorably with 5.7 and 4.6mm.


Considering it has more case capacity than 5.7x28, it should be superior.

Are the pressures similar?
10/30/2014 2:07:29 AM EDT
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And ballistically, the TCM cartridge has a lot of potential.  I can see loadings for it comparing favorably with 5.7 and 4.6mm.


Considering it has more case capacity than 5.7x28, it should be superior.

Are the pressures similar?


Looking at the velocities... Probably in the same neighborhood.

With much of the US made .22TCM getting 40Gr near 2,000fps, it seems to already have 5.7x28mm beat.

The imported .22TCM seems to be a bit weaker.
10/30/2014 7:58:26 AM EDT
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Who is making it in the U.S.?
10/30/2014 8:02:18 AM EDT
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Never even heard of 22TCM had to google it. Looks interesting.
10/30/2014 8:06:18 AM EDT
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IN, had me sold simply on a budget railed 9mm 1911.
10/30/2014 11:35:46 AM EDT
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It is.

Has anyone done any independent gel testing yet?
11/13/2014 8:53:55 AM EDT
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If you look at Armscor .22TCM ammo, there are two flavors. In one of the box styles is ammo actually made by Armscor and imported to the US. In the other box style (more common it seems) is ammo made in the US for Armscor.

The American flavor seems to be quite a bit hotter. Breaks 2,000 from the 5".
11/13/2014 9:10:43 AM EDT
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I am interested in what handloads will do against AR500 "armor", may be a good fodder to make fun of steel armor cheapasses users.
11/13/2014 9:39:07 AM EDT
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AR500 will stop it, easily.
11/13/2014 9:42:26 AM EDT
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I want to see what 30 gr. handload will do at a few feet.