Posted: 10/14/2014 11:30:14 AM EDT
| Do people living deep in the Amazon or other remote portion of the World suffer from diseases like fibromyalgia, bulimia, anorexia, etc? |
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I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia.  Yeah. The same type that lives in my neighborhood, doesn't work, and doesn't do yard work either--but has enough energy to stick her nose in my damned business. |
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In my experience, fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of exclusion......In other words, they don't know what is wrong with you. This presents two problems: 1. Dope seekers and disability hounds use it as a means to get free shit. 2. People with actual pain problems of an unknown origin suffer the stigma of the disease caused by #1. To answer your questions, yes people in third world countries get it. Access to analgesics is also much easier. |
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I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia. My ex got it while we were together. She got a hernia while lifting boxes at work, and had surgery to repair it. That is when her pain issues began. She ended up gaining a lot of weight, but she will NOT take pain medication. She doesn't like what it does to her. She had 3 exploratory surgeries to attempt to find the root cause, but was unsuccessful. I fully believe that she is in pain all the time. |
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I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia. That would be my observation. We had an office assistant that would come in so whacked out on pain meds she would fall asleep during phone calls. |
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I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia. My Wife is a PT. 99% of the "fibromyalgia" patients she sees are generally hooked on prescription painkillers and their Doctors have given up trying to find their ailments, so he goes with fibromyalgia and writes a script for Oxy and PT. |
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Quoted: My ex got it while we were together. She got a hernia while lifting boxes at work, and had surgery to repair it. That is when her pain issues began. She ended up gaining a lot of weight, but she will NOT take pain medication. She doesn't like what it does to her. She had 3 exploratory surgeries to attempt to find the root cause, but was unsuccessful. I fully believe that she is in pain all the time. I hope she finds some comfort.
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It is very telling that the most successful treatment for fibromyalgia appears to be psychiatric drugs (typically some type of anti-depressant).
So the people who suffer from fibromyaligia may genuinely believe that something physical is wrong with them, and might even be experiencing some kind of psychosomatic pain - but the ailment does not appear to be physical in nature. |
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Quoted: I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia. Doesn't just apply to women. I know several people with "fibromyalgia" One is a fat complusive liar, Ex-Marine Sniper with 200 combat jumps in Vietnam, thinks M16's are garbage and carried a Thompson (mind you I said he was a "sniper"), and a pill head The other one is a skinny pill head meth tweeker
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It is very telling that the most successful treatment for fibromyalgia appears to be psychiatric drugs (typically some type of anti-depressant). So the people who suffer from fibromyaligia may genuinely believe that something physical is wrong with them, and might even be experiencing some kind of psychosomatic pain - but the ailment does not appear to be physical in nature. A long-time client told me she has it. She said she "can't stand to be touched . . . by anything." I made the mistake of blurting out--"How do you wear clothes?" Seemed logical, but it was HIGHLY inappropriate to ask a client that, and the look of death she gave me was most uncomfortable. 
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| Most fibromyalgia pts are seekers. For those that are legitimately in pain, I'm sure it's hell that is exacerbated due to the stigma from the addicts. I've never believed its a disease in and of itself, but a syndrome with a collection of causes. I would make a wild guess and say a large amount of those causes are from our western lifestyle |
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It is very telling that the most successful treatment for fibromyalgia appears to be psychiatric drugs (typically some type of anti-depressant). So the people who suffer from fibromyaligia may genuinely believe that something physical is wrong with them, and might even be experiencing some kind of psychosomatic pain - but the ailment does not appear to be physical in nature. Yeah. I have no doubt that the people that are diagnosed with it experience real pain. The origin of that pain is suspect to me. And once someone gets hooked on opiate pain relievers, then withdrawal from those drugs brings pain too. Psychosomatic pain treated with opiate pain relievers is a recipe for addiction and bad news. |
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Quoted: In my experience, fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of exclusion......In other words, they don't know what is wrong with you. This presents two problems: 1. Dope seekers and disability hounds use it as a means to get free shit. 2. People with actual pain problems of an unknown origin suffer the stigma of the disease caused by #1. To answer your questions, yes people in third world countries get it. Access to analgesics is also much easier. This. As for point 2, people attempt to treat the symptoms (pain) rather than addressing the cause of the pain. It might be a hormonal issue, bacterial infection, etc... In several cases that we know, the "fibromyalgia" was actually undiagnosed Lymes. Serious antibiotics cured it. |
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It is very telling that the most successful treatment for fibromyalgia appears to be psychiatric drugs (typically some type of anti-depressant). So the people who suffer from fibromyaligia may genuinely believe that something physical is wrong with them, and might even be experiencing some kind of psychosomatic pain - but the ailment does not appear to be physical in nature. This, Most of the ladies that I have seen with it have all the symptoms of a mental disorder along with Fibro. I really feel bad for their caregivers because the are tasked with running the family, working, and trying to help their wives cope with a debilitating illness that no doctor can seem to find the source of. Many fibro patients refuse to see psychiatric care for their pain due to the stigma around mental illness |
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There are examples of eating disorders throughout history, so I imagine that in the remote parts of the world, they do get them.
Also, you need to remember that bulemia, anorexia, fibromyalgia, and others require a diagnosis to be recorded. In those isolated places you mentioned, doctors are scarce. Frankly, most of what gets diagnosed as fibromyalgia could also be diagnosed as simply getting old. It's probably treated as such. |
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My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. Quoted:
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Fibromyalgia Irritable bowel syndrome Interstitial cystitis Chronic fatigue syndrome  for 99% of those diagnosed with them
My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. You might need to some self-evaluation. Are you a "caregiver"? If you two make a life-long commitment, you may end up spending quite a bit of your time devoted to making her comfortable. This could be quite an inconvenience, depending on your lifestyle. |
| I spoke to a neuropsychologist on the matter of Fibromyalgia. He said that in legitimate cases, the pain is real but the actual cause of the pain is the result of miscommunication between the brain and the rest of the nervous system. He also said that the most effective form of treatment is usually some type of medication for mental illness, because again it is a matter of helping the sick person's brain to function correctly again. |
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It is very telling that the most successful treatment for fibromyalgia appears to be psychiatric drugs (typically some type of anti-depressant). So the people who suffer from fibromyaligia may genuinely believe that something physical is wrong with them, and might even be experiencing some kind of psychosomatic pain - but the ailment does not appear to be physical in nature. Your observation is consistent with my neighbor neuropsychologist's findings. |
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My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. Quoted:
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Fibromyalgia Irritable bowel syndrome Interstitial cystitis Chronic fatigue syndrome for 99% of those diagnosed with them
My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. Mental illness. I don't mean that in a trite way, either. |
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My doctor diagnosed me with fibromyalgia in 2002.
The only prescription I have is for my birth control pills. When I do have pain, I take an OTC anti-inflammatory. The best thing I can do for myself is to stay active and manage both my weight and my stress. The payroll lady out at my department once told me I used less sick time than any other employee, and my former lieutenant once remarked to someone that if I called off sick, then I was really sick. Even I don't know how much of fibromyalgia is real and how much is a "catch all" for a bunch of symptoms that have no other explanation. I do have arthritis and Degenerative Disk Disease, both of which can be seen on x-rays and MRIs, and can easily explain both my joint and nerve pain. Whether or not it's related to the other symptoms and can be grouped together under one label is what I don't know. Or if it's just separate problems, separate diagnosis. |
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My mom has had fibromyalgia for over 20 years. No psych meds or pain relievers, she just needs moderate exercise and stretching (yoga, light yard work, etc) and the occasional massage therapy, and that seems to minimize it for the most part. I think it flares up if she overworks herself or is under a lot of stress. I also know the pill popping, drama llama, hypochondriac type though.
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I spoke to a neuropsychologist on the matter of Fibromyalgia. He said that in legitimate cases, the pain is real but the actual cause of the pain is the result of miscommunication between the brain and the rest of the nervous system. He also said that the most effective form of treatment is usually some type of medication for mental illness, because again it is a matter of helping the sick person's brain to function correctly again. A less serious but related topic is: Does msg make food taste better? The question lays out the chemical nature of the brain rather plainly, imho. |
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My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. Quoted:
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Fibromyalgia Irritable bowel syndrome Interstitial cystitis Chronic fatigue syndrome for 99% of those diagnosed with them
My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. I'd make a parachute of it. |
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I'd make a parachute of it. Quoted:
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Fibromyalgia Irritable bowel syndrome Interstitial cystitis Chronic fatigue syndrome for 99% of those diagnosed with them
My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. I'd make a parachute of it. *slowclap* 
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You might need to some self-evaluation. Are you a "caregiver"? If you two make a life-long commitment, you may end up spending quite a bit of your time devoted to making her comfortable. This could be quite an inconvenience, depending on your lifestyle. Quoted:
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Fibromyalgia Irritable bowel syndrome Interstitial cystitis Chronic fatigue syndrome for 99% of those diagnosed with them
My GF of 2 years "has" all 4. I don't know what to make of the situation. You might need to some self-evaluation. Are you a "caregiver"? If you two make a life-long commitment, you may end up spending quite a bit of your time devoted to making her comfortable. This could be quite an inconvenience, depending on your lifestyle. She isn't at all fat, as some have suggested. I don't take care of her at all now, so I figure she can't be looking for attention. If I feel like doing something and she doesn't, I don't hesitate for a second to take off and do it alone. That sort of sucks though, as far as relationships go. Also, she always seems to find something new to be upset/worried/depressed about. It's like playing whack-a-mole. Each time we resolve and issue, there is something else. |
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My mother is 70 and has been diagnosed with it. I think it may have been because they ran out of options. She doesn't take any medication other than anti hormone that was prescribed in her breast cancer treatment. She still leads an active life, does all the house work, does a good part of the yard work because she enjoys it and they live in the country on multiple acres. She doesn't take any pain medication and is deathly afraid of it because they almost killed her in the hospital by giving her whatever it was I forget now that she already had told them she was allegic to it. It basicall paralzed her but she could hear them talking she just couldn't do anything including blink her eyes. It was in for an operation and they thought she was going to do die. Anyway she really pressuers the doctors (I got with her) to find the cause and gets aggravated that many of them want to throw pain pills at it. She quit going to the abunance of pain management clinics that have popped up for that reason, she says they are nothng more than a place to get a pain pill prescription. She really doesn't complain about it and has quit mentioning it to doctors simply because they want to medicate it even tho that's not the reason she went in to see the doctor, including her cancer doctor. |
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My mother is 70 and has been diagnosed with it. I think it may have been because they ran out of options. She doesn't take any medication other than anti hormone that was prescribed in her breast cancer treatment. She still leads an active life, does all the house work, does a good part of the yard work because she enjoys it and they live in the country on multiple acres. She doesn't take any pain medication and is deathly afraid of it because they almost killed her in the hospital by giving her whatever it was I forget now that she already had told them she was allegic to it. It basicall paralzed her but she could hear them talking she just couldn't do anything including blink her eyes. It was in for an operation and they thought she was going to do die. Anyway she really pressuers the doctors (I got with her) to find the cause and gets aggravated that many of them want to throw pain pills at it. She quit going to the abunance of pain management clinics that have popped up for that reason, she says they are nothng more than a place to get a pain pill prescription. She really doesn't complain about it and has quit mentioning it to doctors simply because they want to medicate it even tho that's not the reason she went in to see the doctor, including her cancer doctor. Was she on Chemo? If so, that could be Neuropathy instead of Fibro. |
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Quoted: That would be my observation. We had an office assistant that would come in so whacked out on pain meds she would fall asleep during phone calls. Quoted: Quoted: I don't want to say too much, but there is a certain "type" of woman that always seems to get fibromyalgia. That would be my observation. We had an office assistant that would come in so whacked out on pain meds she would fall asleep during phone calls. while I have no doubt there are real suffers they get over shadowed by the morons and drug/disability seekers I saw an article recently that many places are treating it with psych drugs and having some success ( see DK already covered that ) |
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Quoted: Add the Gluten allergy to that list . Never even got a mention 15 years ago , now it is the latest fad . There may be something to that. At least it makes sense to me. Humans probably haven't had a diet rich in gluten except for the last few thousand years. So it's at least conceivable that some humans my not be biologically geared for gluten, and since it doesn't kill you, it wouldn't have weeded itself out of the gene pool in a few thousand years. Some humans can't process alcohol, some are lactose intolerant, so it's at least possible that some are gluten intolerant. Go down to Walmart and check out what a diet rich in carbohydrates and sugars does to humans.  What we eat matters. |
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Mostly a nonsense disease. I believe there are some people with pain of unknown origin, but it's not the most common thing. It started out life as fibromyositis. Except, there is no inflammation in the muscle, nerve or facia.
I did grand rounds on the topic about 5 years ago for my residency dept of neurology. At that time the only objective evidence I could find was of elevation of Substance P within the CSF of suffers. The testing is fake. The inter-rater reliability of "tender points" is very low. One doctor might find 9 while the next finds 12. It's not a real test. And no, non-developed countries don't get fibromyalgia. It is a western illness, though I wouldn't be surprised if it spreads to countries like China as they westernize. |