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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:01:58 PM EDT
Who wins this battle? USS Enterprise versus a Imperial II Class Star Destroyer
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:02:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:08:25 PM EDT
[#2]
The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:10:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Serenity....
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:10:23 PM EDT
[#4]
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The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. I don't know as I'd go that far. But the Star Destroy is a military vessel and has a butt load of firepower. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:10:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOh please.  That's a thread about the entire Empire vs the entire Federation. This is strictly a ship duel.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:10:43 PM EDT
[#6]
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Serenity.... an itty bitty cannon and one swinging cod? |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:19:55 PM EDT
[#7]
The Imp Mark Duce will smoke any Federation ship.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:22:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Not to be geeky, but if the star trek ship arrives 'in peace' and the Empire ship's shields aren't up, couldn't they beam a photon torpedo into the center of the star destroyer and blow it up from the inside?
Once shields are raised then I guess it's a slug fest and may the highest firepower win - and I don't know enough about the respective universes to know whose side shoots bigger jolts of energy.... 
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:24:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Empire has no transporter capability nor corresponding shield technology.to block transport. One magnetic containment vessel containing a suitable quantity of antimatter beamed aboard the Star Destroyer and POOF!. Federation starship wins.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:24:19 PM EDT
[#10]
Damn, I forgot to put up a poll.
It's up now.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:24:20 PM EDT
[#11]
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Not to be geeky, but if the star trek ship arrives 'in peace' and the Empire ship's shields aren't up, couldn't they beam a photon torpedo into the center of the star destroyer and blow it up from the inside? Once shields are raised then I guess it's a slug fest and may the highest firepower win - and I don't know enough about the respective universes to know whose side shoots bigger jolts of energy.... Federation hasn't figured out circuit breakers and only barely came up with the idea of homing torpedoes. Leave it to them to beam a missile instead of a bomb into the middle of ship. Of course, they'll only even think to do it just moments before losing their own shields, and at least 20 minutes after an electrical panel explodes killing half the bridge crew. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:24:57 PM EDT
[#12]
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:26:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Star destroyers crew is beamed into space
the end |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:28:57 PM EDT
[#14]
ISD butt-fucks Jean-Luc "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey" Picard.
Oh, and as for the "beam a torpedo on board before the ISD's shields are up" malarkey, do you really think an ISD's shields are EVER down, unless you pound on them until they go down? Fuck no. Enterprise may roll up without her shields up and try to make nice, but the Empire doesn't play that shit. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:30:34 PM EDT
[#15]
The big question is the transporters. If the federation can use them to put Kirk abourd the star destroyer he is only a few drop kicks away from control of the ship.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:39:07 PM EDT
[#16]
Give Data a lightsaber and he could clear the whole ship himself.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:39:14 PM EDT
[#17]
Fuck'em both. Moya would kill the shit out of them both.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:39:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:43:00 PM EDT
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and itty bitty cannon and one swinging cod? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serenity.... and itty bitty cannon and one swinging cod? C'mon, don't be rediculous. They'll have Vera, too. Maybe some grenades. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:44:31 PM EDT
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Give Data a lightsaber and he could clear the whole ship himself. Send Data and Worf at the same time. 
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:46:28 PM EDT
[#21]
1701 C
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:47:15 PM EDT
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C'mon, don't be rediculous. They'll have Vera, too. Maybe some grenades. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serenity.... and itty bitty cannon and one swinging cod? C'mon, don't be rediculous. They'll have Vera, too. Maybe some grenades. Tell me you brought them. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear.
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:53:43 PM EDT
[#24]
I wonder how the Borg would handle a star destroyer?
A star destroyer would beat any variant of Enterprise until Q shows up, then favoritism puts Picard ahead. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:53:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Star Wars doesn't have transporters....
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:54:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:55:26 PM EDT
[#27]
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There's a Star Trek episode joking about a ship with lasers. And of all the star wars battles, seems the best they had were deflector shields that were easily pierced with lasers. So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. Turbolasers are clearly not lasers despite the name. They do not project beams or travel at the speed of light. They function more like cannons. The ISD also has missile and torpedo batteries and carries bombers. Whatever argument you make about the level of technology involved the Federation is going to be outgunned. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:56:51 PM EDT
[#28]
One x wing does in the death star.
Please |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:56:55 PM EDT
[#29]
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Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quoted:
The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. Plus Star Wars shields seem to only work well at keeping air inside the hangar bays. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:57:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Turbolasers are clearly not lasers despite the name. They do not project beams or travel at the speed of light. They function more like cannons. The ISD also has missile and torpedo batteries and carries bombers. Whatever argument you make about the level of technology involved the Federation is going to be outgunned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. Turbolasers are clearly not lasers despite the name. They do not project beams or travel at the speed of light. They function more like cannons. The ISD also has missile and torpedo batteries and carries bombers. Whatever argument you make about the level of technology involved the Federation is going to be outgunned. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:59:35 PM EDT
[#31]
One x wing does in the death star.
Please |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 11:59:53 PM EDT
[#32]
It was the one where the probe wiped everyone's memory and the alien imposter wore the commander rank. When they got to the space station, the comment was made they could fire until their laser banks ran dry and not even penetrate the navigational shields.
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a Star Trek episode joking about a ship with lasers. And of all the star wars battles, seems the best they had were deflector shields that were easily pierced with lasers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:00:54 AM EDT
[#33]
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Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quoted:
The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. Or Replicators. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:02:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:03:48 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Plus Star Wars shields seem to only work well at keeping air inside the hangar bays. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quoted: The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. Plus Star Wars shields seem to only work well at keeping air inside the hangar bays. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:05:15 AM EDT
[#36]
Hmmm....
Federation tech seems superior to empire tech on some fundamental things disregarding the woo woo stuff. But a star destroyer is basically an aircraft carrier and a federation starship is sort of a heavily armed science vessel. Call it a frigate or a destroyer on it's best day. The ability of the star destroyer to project air/space power means it chews up the shields and defenses of the starship at a distance while never coming under direct fire. Win goes to the Star Destroyer assuming there is no radical difference in shield/deflection technology. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:11:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One x wing does in the death star. Please Please. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:13:03 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It was the one where the probe wiped everyone's memory and the alien imposter wore the commander rank. When they got to the space station, the comment was made they could fire until their laser banks ran dry and not even penetrate the navigational shields.So, we have Phasers > Lasers > Star War shields. Seeing as the shields in Star Trek actually stopped the more powerful Phaser fire until failure. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It was the one where the probe wiped everyone's memory and the alien imposter wore the commander rank. When they got to the space station, the comment was made they could fire until their laser banks ran dry and not even penetrate the navigational shields. Quoted:
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Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. So we have ST Shields (limited) > Phasers > Lasers > SW shields. In all situations, Empire tech falls short every time to Fed gear. Dont forget that the ST ships have the ability ro fight at Relativistic Velocity. The enterprise would merely launch quantum or photon torpedoes sat the ISD by warp strafing. When it comes to fighters vs Enterprise. about 20 seconds in... 
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:15:42 AM EDT
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Or Replicators. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Star Wars doesn't have transporters.... Quoted:
The Federation and Star Trek's civilization are far inferior technologically to those in Star Wars. Or Replicators. Star wars has weaponry capable of destroying stars, and machinery capable of harnessing the power of stars as well. Transporters are cool and all, but how much time does it take for a federation ship to cross a galaxy? Star wars hyperdrives do it very quickly in comparison. Aside from lasers and turbolasers, there were plenty of other more direct and powerful munitions in the star wars universe. I'd personally rather see the imperium of man fight either of them, though. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:16:33 AM EDT
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In before a bunch of people try to actually compare physical tech capabilities from two fictional universes with totally different laws of physics.
(star destroyer obviously) |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:18:20 AM EDT
[#41]
Enterprise separates into it's two parts and simultaneously attacks the star destroyer's bridge and propulsion.
Even with the tie fighters they couldn't find the Millenium Falcon stuck to it's backside. I still think the star destroyer would rape the Enterprise quickly, but a smart Federation captain could make it interesting. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:18:29 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beaming is not happening when both ships have shields. Federation is going to get smoked by turbolaser batteries or by the multiple squadrons of TIE fighters and bombers carried by the ISD. Oh snap, I forgot that the Star Destroyer is also a Spacecraft Carrier. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:21:32 AM EDT
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I laugh at the people who claim the shields in ST stop incoming shots but the SW shields don't.
Nearly every time Enterprise took a hit on her shields, consoles were blowing up and vital ship systems were degraded or just plain knocked offline. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:21:38 AM EDT
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You guys forget Enterprise has Met-aphasic shielding rendering them untouchable and unseen. It also has transporters and photon torpedoes the empire has no chance. Shit enterprise can fly into a suns corona and throw a feast from replicators. When everyone waits whatever out they can drink green non synthahol and throw a virtual bonfire party in the halodeck. Good luck empire tit suckers.
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:22:12 AM EDT
[#45]
In the Name of the God Emperor. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:22:28 AM EDT
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Riker's Enterprise pwns your star destroyer at 1:45 |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:22:58 AM EDT
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Technologies wise. Astrophysist Michio Kaku says the Federation in Star Trek is a class 2 civilization, and Star Wars is a class 3 civilization.
So I'd have to go with Star Wars tech over Star Trek.
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:23:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:23:38 AM EDT
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You guys forget Enterprise has Met-aphasic shielding rendering them untouchable and unseen. It also has transporters and photon torpedoes the empire has no chance. Shit enterprise can fly into a suns corona and throw a feast from replicators. When everyone waits whatever out they can drink green non synthahol and throw a virtual bonfire party in the halodeck. Good luck empire tit suckers. Nobody in the star destroyer wears a red shirt. Game over. 
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Posted: 10/11/2014 12:24:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I laugh at the people who claim the shields in ST stop incoming shots but the SW shields don't. Nearly every time Enterprise took a hit on her shields, consoles were blowing up and vital ship systems were degraded or just plain knocked offline. Ha. I am a Star Trek fan and enjoy the franchise. But I always am thinking "WTF????" when the Enterprise shields are fully operational, they take a hit from a torpedo and shit is sparking and blowing up everywhere and people are being tossed around from one side of the room to the other side.
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