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9/27/2014 12:43:06 PM EDT
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9/27/2014 12:44:33 PM EDT
[#1]
The instructions weren’t clear enough. I got my dick caught in the ceiling fan.
9/27/2014 12:46:04 PM EDT
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I hate it when that happens.
9/27/2014 12:47:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Need some votes for Harbor Freight up in here.
9/27/2014 12:47:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Fuck this! You're not the boss of me. I'm not picking any of your options. I say the answer is pine cone.

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9/27/2014 12:48:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Depends. Are we talking about a $10 item or a 100k item?

If I need something in a hurry and don't plan on using it long a crap product that is quick might do the trick or I might not even mind overpaying to get it quick if the total cost is not too great.

If I was buying a quarter million dollar bulldozer I don't think I could afford to spend extra nor would I want junk so I would wait if need be.

9/27/2014 12:48:16 PM EDT
[#6]
3rd choice, the German way


what are we buying here?
9/27/2014 12:49:53 PM EDT
[#7]
This is project management 101.  The appropriate choice for the triple constraint depends on the project and which risk is most acceptable to the customer.  There is no right answer.
9/27/2014 12:50:56 PM EDT
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9/27/2014 12:53:35 PM EDT
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Let's say it is over a million dollars regardless of which option.  And, if it breaks, you die a horrific death.
9/27/2014 12:54:20 PM EDT
[#10]
Vague poll is vague
9/27/2014 12:54:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Good product is mandatory.

Good product but over budget means they can't plan properly, and it's probably not really a good product.

Good product on budget but behind schedule probably means they care enough to get it right.

With a little more experience, they might even get it on time.
9/27/2014 12:56:50 PM EDT
[#12]
No Pie, no answer
9/27/2014 12:59:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Are we buying or selling?

Buying- Good product, on budget but late ( and this is dependent on if being late doesn't mess me up some how)

Selling- Good product, over budget and on schedule
9/27/2014 1:03:44 PM EDT
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I am too poor to afford cheap, and I specified adelivery date because that's when I need it. If possible, I'd anticipate the delay. It's easier to build the extra cost into the bid or item and get it moving on schedule.

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9/27/2014 1:04:11 PM EDT
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That has its place, but I'd rather have what I need when I need it. If I do not have the money to make that happen, then I make time. The alternative is using a crap product to perform (hopefully) the task. The crap product is normally harder and more frustrating to use, carries a greater risk of injury, is usually shorter-lived, and generally speaking... every time that I have ever used a crap product, I've wished I spent the money or time for the good product.

For example:
The pro - he needs the full-size heavy-duty quality Sawzall. He'll pay for a good product because he needs jobs to get done quickly and easily.
The hobbyist - he prefers the full-size heavy-duty quality Sawzall. He can wait for the right price on the good product, because time is on his side.
The casual homeowner - he buys the crap product. All he needs to do is cut some drywall out in order to mount his new 60" LEDTV.
9/27/2014 2:47:47 PM EDT
[#16]
FISH... First In Still Here
9/27/2014 2:50:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Don't tell me what to do.
9/27/2014 2:51:19 PM EDT
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Yep
9/27/2014 2:57:09 PM EDT
[#19]
If time is not a critical factor... b.

If time is a critical factor... c.



Never do a.  a leads to death dismemberment and lawsuits.
9/27/2014 3:04:32 PM EDT
[#20]
Is this a PSA thread?
9/27/2014 3:13:26 PM EDT
[#21]
For the last thing I bought, I voted accordingly.  ??
9/27/2014 7:06:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Fast, cheap, good. Pick two...

... I think I work for idiots that think they can have all three.. and it never, ever works out for them.
9/27/2014 7:07:53 PM EDT
[#23]
OP must be an engineer.
9/27/2014 7:22:18 PM EDT
[#24]
I picked the third answer.  As long as the extra cost is not passed on to me.  
9/27/2014 7:23:30 PM EDT
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9/27/2014 7:23:37 PM EDT
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Depends on where you have the flexibility. Each situation is different.


9/27/2014 7:25:55 PM EDT
[#27]
If you hired better guys, than it would be good, on time and under budget.
9/27/2014 7:26:10 PM EDT
[#28]
how bad do i need this thing RFN?
9/27/2014 7:29:31 PM EDT
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I am too poor to afford cheap, and I specified adelivery date because that's when I need it. If possible, I'd anticipate the delay. It's easier to build the extra cost into the bid or item and get it moving on schedule.

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This is project management 101.  The appropriate choice for the triple constraint depends on the project and which risk is most acceptable to the customer.  There is no right answer.

I am too poor to afford cheap, and I specified adelivery date because that's when I need it. If possible, I'd anticipate the delay. It's easier to build the extra cost into the bid or item and get it moving on schedule.

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If the customer is charged an extra cost so he's not responsible for overruns you aren't getting it cheap.  You are just paying someone else to insure the cost overrun.  In the end, you are still just getting two.
9/27/2014 7:30:53 PM EDT
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Its ok, I am too.

I have only heard engineers use the speed-quality-price triangle before.
9/27/2014 7:31:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Never deliver a crap product



On time or over budget depend on the job and the customer
9/27/2014 7:32:18 PM EDT
[#32]
I like "good product, on budget, and the contractor starts paying a certain amount for every day they are late on delivery."
9/27/2014 7:33:30 PM EDT
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Then you are going to pay more for that than if you didn't have that clause.
9/27/2014 7:34:12 PM EDT
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Its ok, I am too.



I have only heard engineers use the speed-quality-price triangle before.
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Its ok, I am too.



I have only heard engineers use the speed-quality-price triangle before.




 



I take it you are not a car guy







The golden rule of cars- Cheap, fast, reliable. You can only have two of them



9/27/2014 7:35:00 PM EDT
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Then you are going to pay more for that than if you didn't have that clause.
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I like "good product, on budget, and the contractor starts paying a certain amount for every day they are late on delivery."

Then you are going to pay more for that than if you didn't have that clause.


Hey, as long as we are blowing taxpayer money, who cares?

9/27/2014 7:35:50 PM EDT
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On time or over budget depend on the job and the customer
Modern American retail says quick cheap crap = big profits. Give the people what they want.