[ARCHIVED THREAD] - P 64 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/15/2014 9:43:32 PM EDT
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Ok what do we think about this little 9x18 polish pistol? I have it loaded in my cart and haven't bought any new guns in while so got the urge to buy Poor mans Walther PPK? http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3P64  |
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Don't buy it. Trigger fucking sucks. Double action trigger is like 50 lbs or some shit.
"Oh but I can buy Wolff springs and it fixes the trigger" FALSE. Buy Wolff springs to make the double action trigger usable but the single action will be as fragile as a glass dildo. Useless gun. Buy a CZ82 instead. |
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Looks like a nice piece, but I dislike slide mounted safeties. CZ 82 is the best com bloc pistol IMO. Quoted:
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CZ 82 is the answer you seek. Nope, P83 wanad is Looks like a nice piece, but I dislike slide mounted safeties. CZ 82 is the best com bloc pistol IMO. Then only use it as a decocker. CZ does not decock. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Looks like a PPK Ever seen a P63? http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/11/28/238864_01_makarov_feg_pa_63_380_9mm_shor_640.jpg The FEG PA-63 is closer to a Walther PP. The FEG SMC-918 is closer to a PPK. Here is one beneath a P64.  |
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Then only use it as a decocker. CZ does not decock. Quoted:
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CZ 82 is the answer you seek. Nope, P83 wanad is Looks like a nice piece, but I dislike slide mounted safeties. CZ 82 is the best com bloc pistol IMO. Then only use it as a decocker. CZ does not decock. Yep, it has the superior 1911 style safety 
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Have one and like it !!! Very accurate, as said before change out springs for better double action and single is kinda scary light  Very slim and easily concealable for CCW. Paid 135 bucks when they became C&R eligible 
Just picked up new ZEE grips like the ODG and black ones in the pic but in reverse color. He can do any combination of colors. 
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Looks like you totally missed the target. Better go back to Appleseed. 
Those look great. Are they Marschall grips? |
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It's snappy, heavy for size, heavy DA pull. I had one and liked it a lot but traded it off not to long ago because it just sat in the safe. im not a vagina but that little bastard is so snappy it actually hurts to shoot more than a couple mags direct blow back plus the trigger da is like 20lbs. it can be lightened though i have never bothered. |
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OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. |
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Quoted: Looks like you totally missed the target. Better go back to Appleseed. Those look great. Are they Marschall grips? Quoted: Looks like you totally missed the target. Better go back to Appleseed. Those look great. Are they Marschall grips? And yes, they are Marschall grips.
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Quoted: Don't buy it. Trigger fucking sucks. Double action trigger is like 50 lbs or some shit. "Oh but I can buy Wolff springs and it fixes the trigger" FALSE. Buy Wolff springs to make the double action trigger usable but the single action will be as fragile as a glass dildo. Useless gun. Buy a CZ82 instead. This. I dumped it as soon as I got a Makarov. |
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A lot of guys bitch about these triggers in DA. Honestly, while it's heavy it's seriously not that bad. The SA is actually decent. I haven't had a problem with it cutting my hand with the slide like I have with the FEG AP-MBP. It cut my hand last time I shot it. It is snappy, but it is one of those guns you carry a lot a shoot a little. |
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Ok what do we think about this little 9x18 polish pistol? I have it loaded in my cart and haven't bought any new guns in while so got the urge to buy Poor mans Walther PPK? http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3P64 https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/f3p64pw1.jpg Looks like a poor mans Makarov. |
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Wear gloves.
It's like a lightning bolt being shot into the web of your hand. Dunno if I'd be in for one at $260, I paid $160. This is a better buy IMO http://www.jgsales.com/star-modelo-super-b-semi-auto-pistol,-9mm,-with-2-magazines,-g-vg-condition,-used.-p-70965.html |
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Just find one of these - all the others are copies anyway. My daily carry set up. '68 Walther PP (.32 acp) and Hubertus Z2000 autoknife http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=836871&size=1 http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=836872&size=1 Speaking of copies, I freaking love my FEG PP clone in .32...great little gun. |
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For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Quoted:
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OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. It's a hand cannon for sure. I miss 2100 rounds for $120 shipped 
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Quoted: For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Quoted: Quoted: OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though.  |
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The spring swap for the Wolff spring kit helps the DA trigger pull, but only by so much. Takes it from 18 pounds down to maybe 12.
Accuracy is okay, but the sights are unforgivably tiny and bad, so "accurate" is a relative thing to how good the lighting is at the time. Recoil is... assertive, and the frame digs into your hand. For a lot of people, at least. You're not going to want to shoot more than a box your first day at the range, and if you have literally any other pistol, you probably won't shoot it again. But it does work, and you can carry and use it for self defense. Size is about right, perhaps on the uppermost limits of a true pocket pistol, but it's heavy. The LCP is a far better and more practical pocket gun, if that's what you're looking for. As a C&R, it has a lot of value, especially if you have some desire to "Catch 'em All." They are interesting and neat to play with, and they're not junk by any means, just... unrefined. It's a 50-year-old service pistol for Eastern European cops. So... you know. I'm not getting rid of mine, but I also don't shoot it either. Take that for what you will. |
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Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> Quoted:
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OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> What is that? A crack in your slide? |
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Looks like a PPK Ever seen a P63? http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/11/28/238864_01_makarov_feg_pa_63_380_9mm_shor_640.jpg My ex had one of those 63's. I liked it but she thought the double action trigger was a little too stiff. She traded it for a Bersa Thunder. |
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Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> Quoted:
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OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> Is that a cracked slide?
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Quoted: Is that a cracked slide?Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> Is that a cracked slide?Yes, could have been a freak, but between this, the rep of broken firing pins and your palm setting the safety (when the detent spring weakens), I'd recommend the weaker P64 or MAK any day. Unless you are a collector, IMO commercial pistols are generally a better choice than milsurp. Unlike milsurp rifles, pistols generally have a commercial equivalent. |
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Yes, could have been a freak, but between this, the rep of broken firing pins and your palm setting the safety (when the detent spring weakens), I'd recommend the weaker P64 or MAK any day. Unless you are a collector, IMO commercial pistols are generally a better choice than milsurp. Unlike milsurp rifles, pistols generally have a commercial equivalent. Quoted:
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OP just get them all http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w644/fatcat4620/20130516_183830_zps95203839.jpg For some odd reason I'm developing a "thing" for the CZ 52. It's dead sexy. Gonna have to get one soon. Tis overrated crap... It does have a cool operating system though. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/czdefect.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/czdefect.jpg</a> Is that a cracked slide?Yes, could have been a freak, but between this, the rep of broken firing pins and your palm setting the safety (when the detent spring weakens), I'd recommend the weaker P64 or MAK any day. Unless you are a collector, IMO commercial pistols are generally a better choice than milsurp. Unlike milsurp rifles, pistols generally have a commercial equivalent. One of the reasons I never got the -52 was the fragile fp. Are the newer -53 .380's plagued with this problem? |