[ARCHIVED THREAD] - What tier is PSA? (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 9/5/2014 8:49:54 PM EDT
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What the fuck difference does it make? Seriously. If you are not using a weapon in the field, but instead are using it recreationally, do you really need a KAC or LaRue or other top shelf AR? <--- Does not own a PSA, but wouldn't kick one out of the safe. You know how armchair commandos be. How bout for potential SHTF use |
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What the fuck difference does it make? Seriously. If you are not using a weapon in the field, but instead are using it recreationally, do you really need a KAC or LaRue or other top shelf AR? <--- Does not own a PSA, but wouldn't kick one out of the safe. You know how armchair commandos be. How bout for potential SHTF use So what's your take on it 5 Day member? 
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Many MFG.s have turned things up as far as (claimed) specs, so the Tier system is a bit muddy and dated. I believe this was originally defined by Pat Rogers: T1: Full on .gov contractor, because they MUST build to a spec T2: Companies that do everything to be T1 (just no contract) T3: Everyone else
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Agreed, but don't forget track record and QC. Specs don't mean shit if the barrel nut isn't torqued properly or if you have the incorrect gas tube. installed. Quoted:
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The tier rating system no longer applies. Specs are what you now judge by. I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself 
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Quoted: I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The tier rating system no longer applies. Specs are what you now judge by. I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not. I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec.
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Quoted: Tier 3  A FN made hammer forged chrome lined barrel is tier 3m?Quoted: Quoted: I may have just joined but have been a lurker for a while. I ain't no noob to firearms. Tier 3 Tier 3 A FN made hammer forged chrome lined barrel is tier 3m? |
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Quoted: What the fuck difference does it make? Seriously. If you are not using a weapon in the field, but instead are using it recreationally, do you really need a KAC or LaRue or other top shelf AR? <--- Does not own a PSA, but wouldn't kick one out of the safe. |
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That's great, but we are discussing off the shelf rifles/uppers. My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not.
I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec. Quoted:
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The tier rating system no longer applies. Specs are what you now judge by. I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not.
I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec. I didn't realize I needed to worry about FN cutting the chamber or drilling the gas ports. I will tell the army to check their shit. |
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Has the pedigree of those barrels really been determined? It may be made by FN, but it's not an FN barrel it's a PSA barrel. Quoted:
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I may have just joined but have been a lurker for a while. I ain't no noob to firearms. Tier 3 Tier 3 A FN made hammer forged chrome lined barrel is tier 3m?Wow, PSA is now forging FN roll marks! I don't know who to trust anymore! |
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Wow, PSA is now forging FN roll marks! I don't know who to trust anymore! Quoted:
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I may have just joined but have been a lurker for a while. I ain't no noob to firearms. Tier 3 Tier 3 A FN made hammer forged chrome lined barrel is tier 3m?Wow, PSA is now forging FN roll marks! I don't know who to trust anymore! 
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That's great, but we are discussing off the shelf rifles/uppers. My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not.
I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec. Quoted:
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The tier rating system no longer applies. Specs are what you now judge by. I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not.
I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec. I hope the union hacks weren't having an off day when they reamed your chamber. 
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Quoted: I didn't realize I needed to worry about FN cutting the chamber or drilling the gas ports. I will tell the army to check their shit. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The tier rating system no longer applies. Specs are what you now judge by. I know 100% my barrel nut and gas tube are correct. I installed them myself My statement still stands, and reputation does matter. It's cool that you have the ability to QC things on your own but many people do not.I do not have chamber gauges, for instance. So if I am building a rifle I would have to go by the word of the mfg that the chamber is in spec. I didn't realize I needed to worry about FN cutting the chamber or drilling the gas ports. I will tell the army to check their shit. Ask the army how their mid-length barrels are holding up when you contact them.
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I may have just joined but have been a lurker for a while. I ain't no noob to firearms. Tier 3 Tier 3 A FN made hammer forged chrome lined barrel is tier 3m?Wow, PSA is now forging FN roll marks! I don't know who to trust anymore! I know right. I just bought a safariland holster at Wal-Mart. The packaging looks legit but I have never seen these holsters verified. |
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Those are not ARMY barrels. They are barrels that are sold to PSA from an MFG who also makes contract barrels for the MIL. You are right. The mil spec tier 1 TDP specifies button cut rifling so the HF barrels must suck. Also please provide a link to these mid length barrels the army is using. |
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I voted tier 2, but I've only ever used some of their parts kits and one 14.7" FN barrel.
I found their trigger to be a bit gritty and the safety doesn't quite "feel right", but it all seems to work just fine so no major complaints. I still love PSA (even if it does take 2 months to get your order sometimes )
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Like dunderways AR? Quoted:
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A $400ish AR that goes bang every time and eats steel case junk is tier 1 IMO. Nope, tier 1 ARs are only reliable with boutique ammo. Like dunderways AR? Yeah, when his rifle fails, it's because of the bass pressure curve of the ammunition. |