[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ISIL (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/15/2014 9:45:17 AM EDT
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Hope this isn't a dupe. It popped up on my homepage newsfeed an hour ago. This sounds really bad. ISIL a threat to U.S. and Europe. |
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Given that President Obama has placed sharp limits on U.S. airstrikes and confined them to Iraq, that effectively makes Baghdadi and his top deputies — almost all of whom were once in U.S. custody — off-limits to U.S. military action.
Why the fuck am I not surprised by this? 
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Eh, fuck em. There is always going to be a threat out there. Just be vigilant and prepared. It is all you can do. They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. |
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You should worry allot about it. After all the more you worry about it, the less of a threat they will become. You know this to be true because you have worried about all the threats ever reviled to you in the news since the bay of pigs and pretty much NONE of them has affected you, right? Good job. And keep worrying. |
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They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. Quoted:
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Eh, fuck em. There is always going to be a threat out there. Just be vigilant and prepared. It is all you can do. They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. Add in the fact of how many of them are sneaking across that porous border of the state you live in. Your probably going to be in the first wave of attacks. 
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I wish they would do something here soon that might wake up most lazy assed Americans that are too smug to think we could have people who hate us right in our own back yards.
Sure some folks would die, even me, but at least it might spark some REAL patriotism among the masses. In the mean time I will put a tiny American flag magnet on the back of my car like the 99% of sheep do as a faux sign of patriotism. |
| ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. |
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Quoted: They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. Quoted: Quoted: Eh, fuck em. There is always going to be a threat out there. Just be vigilant and prepared. It is all you can do. They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. |
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. Fucking cowards know that most would have a hard time killing a kid, regardless of the situation. |
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Fucking cowards know that most would have a hard time killing a kid, regardless of the situation. Quoted:
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. Fucking cowards know that most would have a hard time killing a kid, regardless of the situation. Careful, talk like that cultivates weakness in the mind. 
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Quoted: They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. Quoted: Quoted: Eh, fuck em. There is always going to be a threat out there. Just be vigilant and prepared. It is all you can do. They grabbed a lot of the weapons we left for the Iraquis including tanks. They blew the prison open and freed a lot of Taliban including some Iraquis we trained that turned on us. They are better equipped and trained than any other terrotist group has been. They took over an area obama placed off limits for air strikes. Remember how that worked before? I had friends who flew in Viet Nam. Apparently there is already talk that they plan on starting a Caliphate and are planning on spreading into Europe and here. Yeah, this sounds bad. I am not worried. The part of Texas I am in is largely Hispanic, largely catholic, and has a lot of retired .mil. They might pull off something...but they will end up deaded, marinated in pig entrails and buried. |
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Fucking cowards know that most would have a hard time killing a kid, regardless of the situation. Quoted:
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. Fucking cowards know that most would have a hard time killing a kid, regardless of the situation. Those aren't children. |
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. Kids like that, non-issue We fight them there or they come here, it's our choice |
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Quoted: ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. |
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You know, my wife and I have talked about this...living with killing a kid in some sort of bad situation, and I look at it this way...I could not live with it...but even worse would be knowing that I failed to protect my wife from the worst of humanity. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. Quoted:
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. Oh speaking of wives cause I've seen them do this to whole towns, they'll kill you and your eldest child, rape your wife, force her to have a kid, and then raise that kid off their belief's. It's barbaric and brutally effective as history has shown to take over a nation. |
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Quoted: ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I can assure that the feeling is mutual. Could I kill children? Women? Easy, you just don't lead them as much.  |
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You should worry allot about it. After all the more you worry about it, the less of a threat they will become. You know this to be true because you have worried about all the threats ever reviled to you in the news since the bay of pigs and pretty much NONE of them has affected you, right? Good job. And keep worrying. Informing, not worrying. |
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Remember AQI? What was left of AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria) and then ISIL (Islamic state in the Levant) and then IS (Islamic State) when Baghdadi name himself caliph much to the displeasure of vast numbers of Muslims in the ME. Even Iran doesn't like ISIL and we all know Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Baghdadi I can't talk too much about. |
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Remember AQI? What was left of AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria) and then ISIL (Islamic state in the Levant) and then IS (Islamic State) when Baghdadi name himself caliph much to the displeasure of vast numbers of Muslims in the ME. Even Iran doesn't like ISIL and we all know Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Baghdadi I can't talk too much about. Quoted:
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Remember AQI? What was left of AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria) and then ISIL (Islamic state in the Levant) and then IS (Islamic State) when Baghdadi name himself caliph much to the displeasure of vast numbers of Muslims in the ME. Even Iran doesn't like ISIL and we all know Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Baghdadi I can't talk too much about. Yeah, I knew the story on the development of IS. I just never heard of al-Baghdadi until a few days ago. |
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Remember AQI? What was left of AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria) and then ISIL (Islamic state in the Levant) and then IS (Islamic State) when Baghdadi name himself caliph much to the displeasure of vast numbers of Muslims in the ME. Even Iran doesn't like ISIL and we all know Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Baghdadi I can't talk too much about. Quoted:
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Remember AQI? What was left of AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria) and then ISIL (Islamic state in the Levant) and then IS (Islamic State) when Baghdadi name himself caliph much to the displeasure of vast numbers of Muslims in the ME. Even Iran doesn't like ISIL and we all know Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Baghdadi I can't talk too much about. ISIL wants to destroy Iran as it believes Shiite muslims to be heretics. |
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Given that President Obama has placed sharp limits on U.S. airstrikes and confined them to Iraq, that effectively makes Baghdadi and his top deputies — almost all of whom were once in U.S. custody — off-limits to U.S. military action. Why the fuck am I not surprised by this? It's a foregone conclusion that Obama's goal is to destroy America, and America is walking right into the slaughterhouse for him. |
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I wish they would do something here soon that might wake up most lazy assed Americans that are too smug to think we could have people who hate us right in our own back yards. Sure some folks would die, even me, but at least it might spark some REAL patriotism among the masses. In the mean time I will put a tiny American flag magnet on the back of my car like the 99% of sheep do as a faux sign of patriotism. When it happens it will hasten our fall, people will clamor for protection and it will make everything worse. That is one of the reasons the border is being left porous, the administration wants another attack. |
| Here's a scenario my buddy and I were talking about. It seems they have a shit ton of money from financial backers. What if those money men were to charter a plane and land in Iraq at the airport. Load it with 300 fighters and their battle load ( at general aviation hangar may get through without security checks ). Then fly legally to an airport in a major city of another country. They all unload and easily lay waste to the airport and possibly break out onto the streets. Who could stop them as long as their flight goes as planned ? I know it sounds crazy and far fetched but hey, anything can happen. |
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Quoted: Oh speaking of wives cause I've seen them do this to whole towns, they'll kill you and your eldest child, rape your wife, force her to have a kid, and then raise that kid off their belief's. It's barbaric and brutally effective as history has shown to take over a nation. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. Oh speaking of wives cause I've seen them do this to whole towns, they'll kill you and your eldest child, rape your wife, force her to have a kid, and then raise that kid off their belief's. It's barbaric and brutally effective as history has shown to take over a nation. |
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Lovely culture they have. Good to remember if things ever get Muslimy in Corpus Christi. Quoted:
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. Oh speaking of wives cause I've seen them do this to whole towns, they'll kill you and your eldest child, rape your wife, force her to have a kid, and then raise that kid off their belief's. It's barbaric and brutally effective as history has shown to take over a nation. Most aren't like that. There I believe 1.7 billion Muslims in the world most in the USA and then Saudia Arabia. Out of those only 30 - 33 million are estimated to be extremists. |
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Iraqi by birth. US had him in custody around 2004 (?) and let him go. Has a phd or something in Islamic studies. Not surprising. Quoted:
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Iraqi by birth. US had him in custody around 2004 (?) and let him go. Has a phd or something in Islamic studies. Not surprising. Isn't that what about 80%+ of their graduates major in? I don't think they have many engineers, etc. |
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You know how I know your an idiot? Quoted:
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ISIS/ISIL is a gift. It means that fuckhead jihadis in the Middle East are too busy murdering each other to take up arms against the "evil" West. Let them murder each other and finish off whatever is left alive. You know how I know your an idiot? Go and fight them yourself, then. |
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Most aren't like that. There I believe 1.7 billion Muslims in the world most in the USA and then Saudia Arabia. Out of those only 30 - 33 million are estimated to be extremists. Quoted:
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ISIL brainwashed children will gladly kill you and your family. Then they will brainwash whatever is left. Could you live with killing a kid? I've seen kids gladly swearing loyalty to Baghdadi and happy to commit martyrdom. They have no morals or values but theirs. To them we are just animals. I may end up in an asylum, or emotionally wrecked, or unable to function...but that pales in comparison to entering eternity knowing I failed my wife. To further answer...I have no idea how I'd respond to something bad happening...shock, disbelief,a hit my pants, run, or stand and fight...I don't know...I hope I somehow manage to do all of it, and live through it. Oh speaking of wives cause I've seen them do this to whole towns, they'll kill you and your eldest child, rape your wife, force her to have a kid, and then raise that kid off their belief's. It's barbaric and brutally effective as history has shown to take over a nation. Most aren't like that. There I believe 1.7 billion Muslims in the world most in the USA and then Saudia Arabia. Out of those only 30 - 33 million are estimated to be extremists. The Saudis are the big financial backers though. I have never understood that. They are our "allies" but backed Osama and Al Quada, among others. |
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Isn't that what about 80%+ of their graduates major in? I don't think they have many engineers, etc. Quoted:
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Iraqi by birth. US had him in custody around 2004 (?) and let him go. Has a phd or something in Islamic studies. Not surprising. Isn't that what about 80%+ of their graduates major in? I don't think they have many engineers, etc. Is he independently wealthy, or anything like that? Obviously he has something that made everybody in IS accept him as Caliph. I doubt it's because he's "most devout". He command a more skilled group of fighters under AQI or something? ETA: His wikipedia page had a lot more information that I thought it would. That said, his combat history seems lacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi |
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The Saudis are the big financial backers though. I have never understood that. They are our "allies" but backed Osama and Al Quada, among others. Quoted:
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Most aren't like that. There I believe 1.7 billion Muslims in the world most in the USA and then Saudia Arabia. Out of those only 30 - 33 million are estimated to be extremists. The Saudis are the big financial backers though. I have never understood that. They are our "allies" but backed Osama and Al Quada, among others. They're not "America's" allies, they're the allies of very small portion of Americans with power and influence. |
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Here's a scenario my buddy and I were talking about. It seems they have a shit ton of money from financial backers. What if those money men were to charter a plane and land in Iraq at the airport. Load it with 300 fighters and their battle load ( at general aviation hangar may get through without security checks ). Then fly legally to an airport in a major city of another country. They all unload and easily lay waste to the airport and possibly break out onto the streets. Who could stop them as long as their flight goes as planned ? I know it sounds crazy and far fetched but hey, anything can happen. What the heck do you think is being done with MH370? |
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Go and fight them yourself, then. Quoted:
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ISIS/ISIL is a gift. It means that fuckhead jihadis in the Middle East are too busy murdering each other to take up arms against the "evil" West. Let them murder each other and finish off whatever is left alive. You know how I know your an idiot? Go and fight them yourself, then. Patience grasshopper. Why go out to eat when you can have it delivered to your doorstep? |
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Is he independently wealthy, or anything like that? Obviously he has something that made everybody in IS accept him as Caliph. I doubt it's because he's "most devout". He command a more skilled group of fighters under AQI or something? ETA: His wikipedia page had a lot more information that I thought it would. That said, his combat history seems lacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi Quoted:
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What's the take on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I'd never heard of him until IS designated him as Caliph. What's his history? Iraqi by birth. US had him in custody around 2004 (?) and let him go. Has a phd or something in Islamic studies. Not surprising. Isn't that what about 80%+ of their graduates major in? I don't think they have many engineers, etc. Is he independently wealthy, or anything like that? Obviously he has something that made everybody in IS accept him as Caliph. I doubt it's because he's "most devout". He command a more skilled group of fighters under AQI or something? ETA: His wikipedia page had a lot more information that I thought it would. That said, his combat history seems lacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi He was a cleric in Iraq and with his phd he is probably just really politically motivated and a natural leader to most of those uneducated camel jockeys. Combat experience is not a prerequisite for leading a religious ideology. Just so happens it's a violent one whose followers believe in using the sword to accomplish their goals. |