Posted: 7/10/2014 10:07:35 AM EDT
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My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks
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My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks Remove your hard drive and see if your machine will boot to BIOS/UEFI. If it does your PC might not be dead, just corrupt/dead hard drive. |
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Quoted: Remove your hard drive and see if your machine will boot to BIOS/UEFI. If it does your PC might not be dead, just corrupt/dead hard drive. Quoted: Quoted: My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks Remove your hard drive and see if your machine will boot to BIOS/UEFI. If it does your PC might not be dead, just corrupt/dead hard drive. The hard drive has nothing to do with the system shutting itself off. I would bet it's a bad motherboard. I've seen bad CPU's do the same thing after a couple seconds of boot screen but those are usually pretty solid after they're installed unless you have heat issues. Bad RAM will lock it up and not let it load into the OS but won't cause a restart. Looks like it's time for an upgrade if you got the cash. |
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Quoted: My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks |
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Quoted: Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. Quoted: Quoted: My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks |
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Quoted: The hard drive has nothing to do with the system shutting itself off. I would bet it's a bad motherboard. I've seen bad CPU's do the same thing after a couple seconds of boot screen but those are usually pretty solid after they're installed unless you have heat issues. Bad RAM will lock it up and not let it load into the OS but won't cause a restart. Looks like it's time for an upgrade if you got the cash. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks Remove your hard drive and see if your machine will boot to BIOS/UEFI. If it does your PC might not be dead, just corrupt/dead hard drive. The hard drive has nothing to do with the system shutting itself off. I would bet it's a bad motherboard. I've seen bad CPU's do the same thing after a couple seconds of boot screen but those are usually pretty solid after they're installed unless you have heat issues. Bad RAM will lock it up and not let it load into the OS but won't cause a restart. Looks like it's time for an upgrade if you got the cash. Motherboard or PSU most likely. Absolute oddball case: unseated CPU...if OP has slapped the thing around a bit lately. |
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My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks I'd do a quick visual inspection to make sure it didn't have blown caps, or that the heat sink on the processor hasn't come loose. I had a system where the bracket which holds the heat sink in place had broken and because of that the heat sink wasn't on the processor. It behaved much like your description. My next step would be to temporarily replace the power supply w/ a known good one and see if it boots. Beyond that it gets into disconnect everything which isn't essential and see if it will come up w/o the extras. |
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Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron  into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.Tiime for a new computer anyway
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Could even be a driver issue or just corruption at some level.
Yes, just move you hard drive to the new system (don't boot from it) and access your files like that, move over the important files to the new drive and then format the old drive... move files back. |
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Quoted: I'd do a quick visual inspection to make sure it didn't have blown caps, or that the heat sink on the processor hasn't come loose. I had a system where the bracket which holds the heat sink in place had broken and because of that the heat sink wasn't on the processor. It behaved much like your description. My next step would be to temporarily replace the power supply w/ a known good one and see if it boots. Beyond that it gets into disconnect everything which isn't essential and see if it will come up w/o the extras. Quoted: Quoted: My desktop died yesterday. Starts to boot up then dies a second or 2 later before it gets to the boot screen. system fans on CPU die after the same time. Tried this several times and no luck. Bought a new power supply and same thing. Im thinking the mother board is tango uniform.....its at least 5 years old anyway and time for a new one. I thinks its windos vista. So, is this thing really dead? Is it as simple as taking out my old hard drive and plugging it in a new machine, will try to stay with a window 7 machine btw. got lots of family photos and other crap on this hard drive. Thanks I'd do a quick visual inspection to make sure it didn't have blown caps, or that the heat sink on the processor hasn't come loose. I had a system where the bracket which holds the heat sink in place had broken and because of that the heat sink wasn't on the processor. It behaved much like your description. My next step would be to temporarily replace the power supply w/ a known good one and see if it boots. Beyond that it gets into disconnect everything which isn't essential and see if it will come up w/o the extras. |
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Quoted: Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.Tiime for a new computer anyway  |
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Probably the MB, but there are a few things you can try: 1. If you have 2 memory sticks, take one out and see if you can boot. If not, swap the other stick in and try an boot. If memory dies, it can cause a similar problem. 2. Make sure your CPU fan is fully seated against the processor. If the fan is loose, it can cause a quick overheat. 3. Remove the video card... Why?... Why not. What are the specs? Processor, Motherboard, memory? |
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Quoted: No beeps at all Quoted: Quoted: Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.Tiime for a new computer anyway |
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Pull everything except for CPU
If no beep codes its the CPU or the main board. If you get beep codes then insert one stick of ram If it boots then it is either the ram slot or the ram. If you get no beep codes try remove the ram and put it in the other slot. (Unless you have to install it in pairs) Continue to insert your stuff If you get a new rig you can slave your drive to get your files but not your programs. |
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Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.
Tiime for a new computer anyway Stupid question, but most motherboards hve the main connector to them, and a smaller 4 pin connector.. Did you get both connected? If it's a SATA hard drive you should be able to connect it to a new system as a secondary drive without any issues, but I'd get the other system up and running before I hooked it up. It's much more difficult to make an old drive boot on a new motherboard which uses different drivers. Sometimes you can do it by booting in safe mode and deleting all the drivers, but it's generally not recommended. There is also software to strip out the system specific parts, but I don't generally think it's worth the trouble. If you wanted to keep the old data as a bootable option, I'd create a virtual machine and keep it that way. Good way to keep all your old data/programs on a new system IMO. |
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Quoted: Quoted: That's sounds like Motherboard. New PC time!!!!! Quoted: Quoted: Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.Tiime for a new computer anyway Like one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A4HAFS |
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Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.
Tiime for a new computer anyway No, that will not work(you want to just plug and play your old windows as a bootable disc in your new computer and have the same computer with newer specs, how nice it would be). Windows registers a mac address for your PC from the ground up. Unless your new computer is in the same configuration as your old computer you cannot just plug and play, unfortunately(its very complex to get a true plug and play hdd system up and running, and not practical for non-business entities). Basically to do what you want, you would need to trick windows into thinking it was the exact same computer. You can pull your old files off using a Sata + Power universal USB converter, or you can just plug your old HDD in as a slave drive in your new pc, but that's more complicated. This kit will get her done. http://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Drive-Adapter-Converter-External/dp/B00BIE996S/ref=sr_1_2?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1405018736&sr=1-2&keywords=sata+usb+converter You can try reseating your ram. If you aren't getting any beeps on boot though, its a longshot. If your mobo is fucked, time for a new rig unless it was a nice pre-built from non-oem parts or you built it yourself. |
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Quoted: Pull everything except for CPU If no beep codes its the CPU or the main board. If you get beep codes then insert one stick of ram If it boots then it is either the ram slot or the ram. If you get no beep codes try remove the ram and put it in the other slot. (Unless you have to install it in pairs) Continue to insert your stuff If you get a new rig you can slave your drive to get your files but not your programs. |
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No, that will not work(you want to just plug and play your old windows as a bootable disc in your new computer and have the same computer with newer specs, how nice it would be). Windows registers a mac address for your PC from the ground up. Unless your new computer is in the same configuration as your old computer you cannot just plug and play, unfortunately(its very complex to get a true plug and play hdd system up and running, and not practical for non-business entities). Basically to do what you want, you would need to trick windows into thinking it was the exact same computer. You can pull your old files off using a Sata + Power universal USB converter, or you can just plug your old HDD in as a slave drive in your new pc, but that's more complicated. This kit will get her done. http://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Drive-Adapter-Converter-External/dp/B00BIE996S/ref=sr_1_2?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1405018736&sr=1-2&keywords=sata+usb+converter You can try reseating your ram. If you aren't getting any beeps on boot though, its a longshot. If your mobo is fucked, time for a new rig unless it was a nice pre-built from non-oem parts or you built it yourself. Quoted:
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Nothing on the screen when powering up. About 2 times out of 50 i observed the HP (Hewlett Packard) letters for about a second then the turn off. But 48 other times nothing on the screen. No beeps at all Cpu and fan were dusty as hell, real dusty so i blew everything out with my air compressor. I did try a 400 watt power supply that was new and same thing. the oe PSU was only 300 watts. My big concern is can i just plug in my old HDD with all my programs, pics etc....and most importantly Pron into the new desk top and basically have 2 HDD on the system.
Tiime for a new computer anyway No, that will not work(you want to just plug and play your old windows as a bootable disc in your new computer and have the same computer with newer specs, how nice it would be). Windows registers a mac address for your PC from the ground up. Unless your new computer is in the same configuration as your old computer you cannot just plug and play, unfortunately(its very complex to get a true plug and play hdd system up and running, and not practical for non-business entities). Basically to do what you want, you would need to trick windows into thinking it was the exact same computer. You can pull your old files off using a Sata + Power universal USB converter, or you can just plug your old HDD in as a slave drive in your new pc, but that's more complicated. This kit will get her done. http://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Drive-Adapter-Converter-External/dp/B00BIE996S/ref=sr_1_2?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1405018736&sr=1-2&keywords=sata+usb+converter You can try reseating your ram. If you aren't getting any beeps on boot though, its a longshot. If your mobo is fucked, time for a new rig unless it was a nice pre-built from non-oem parts or you built it yourself. This is one I've used before as well. http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Converter-Supply-Activity-EC-AHDD/dp/B00CPGYNV4/ |
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Well, its dead. Home now from work and tried everything....removing everything, ram, CD drives, dvd drives etc. Power on and no beeps, nothing. add ram one slot at a time (6 gb ram in 4 slots) nothing. So, will buy one of the linked USB to SATA units to transfer files from the old HDD to the new computer. What does GD recommend. Prefer a desktop, my Lenovo laptop I5 processor is pretty good but i usually leave it at work to surf ARFCOM in privacy from the .mil comm nazisSpecs of this dead unit are HP pavillion with 6gb and AMD Phenom 9550 quad core cpu running vista. I was happy with this but would like a good unit with a bit more connectivity/upgradability etc. So, what is good nowadays. windows 7 preferably. Thanks again
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OP if you pulled the CPU heatsink you absolutely have to clean the thermal paste off the CPU and apply new thermal paste. I promise it will overheat if you get it running and you don't do this.
I suggest building a computer. Youtube search budget gaming PC builds fir ideas on parts. For $700 you can build a nice one. |
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Quoted: OP if you pulled the CPU heatsink you absolutely have to clean the thermal paste off the CPU and apply new thermal paste. I promise it will overheat if you get it running and you don't do this. Sorry if you knew this already but many people don't know much about thermal paste.  |
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Pulling the heatsink was the last thing i did. The MB is dead Quoted:
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OP if you pulled the CPU heatsink you absolutely have to clean the thermal paste off the CPU and apply new thermal paste. I promise it will overheat if you get it running and you don't do this. Sorry if you knew this already but many people don't know much about thermal paste. My brother had a HP motherboard die just a couple weeks ago. Seems to be a common problem. I've had good luck with Gigabyte and Asus mobos. |