[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fall Protection Harnesses? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/8/2014 8:14:43 PM EDT
| Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! |
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Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! A cheap harness to save your life if you fall 5 stories? if you fall 5 stories, your lanyard was probably too long. 
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Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! A cheap harness to save your life if you fall 5 stories? if you fall 5 stories, your lanyard was probably too long. not cheap, just not really high priced
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The shit we did when I was younger... damn.
I was a roofer, and we were taking off the flat roof from a 3 story tall warehouse, exposing the bare wood beams. In order to keep us all from falling through, my foreman had us all wear these leather belts. And the 5 of us guys all clipped on to a rope maybe 50 ft long. The guy on one end tied himself to the end of the rope, and the other end of the rope this real big fat guy tied it off on him. That way we could all move around instead of tying off to something solid. 
Instead of helping anything, it meant that if one guy fell through, we were all gonna go through.
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Fall harnesses and lanyards should catch you with in 4 ft of falling. I teach OSHA safety classes for contractors. 4 ft in the standard and if you lanyard lets you fall farther it is not considered safe. Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. |
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What are you going to be doing?
A cheap harness, lanyard, rope grab, and a rope shouldn't put you back further than a few hundred. A harness that is integrated into your tool system might cost more though. Talk to some commercial guys. Most of them have this stuff at their house, behind their car seat, under the couch, etc.. On a commercial job this type of stuff flows like water. |
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Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. Quoted:
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Fall harnesses and lanyards should catch you with in 4 ft of falling. I teach OSHA safety classes for contractors. 4 ft in the standard and if you lanyard lets you fall farther it is not considered safe. Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. By State Code here, the Employer is suppose to pay for a DOT Driver's Physical if you need one.... Many Companies try and weasel out of that, even when you show them the State Law about it...... 
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| The commercial roofing suppliers around here all carry "safety in a bucket" from various manufacturers at various price points. Will have everything you need; harness, lanyard, ropes, tie off rigging and hasps/clamps. I usually dispose ours after a year or so and buy brand new ones. Around $175 |
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Quoted: I got mine off of Amazon. I think the harness and shock lanyard was $100 total. The lanyard doesn't have as high a quality/big "ball buster" as the ones at work but it's big enough. |
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Quoted: Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. Quoted: Quoted: Fall harnesses and lanyards should catch you with in 4 ft of falling. I teach OSHA safety classes for contractors. 4 ft in the standard and if you lanyard lets you fall farther it is not considered safe. Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. |
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Don't be a pussy. Get a bunch of those bungee cords you find at the local gas station and tie them to a truck bed tie-down strap. Tie yourself off with that. That'll save you money.
Also, make sure one of your coworkers youtubes any and all video of you using this rig. |
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Having worked more accidental falling deaths cases than I'd care to recount, I can tell you that they are easy to diagnose...
Welders falling from tops of municipal water towers. Derrick hands falling from 20-story work over rigs. Cell tower repairmen falling from cell towers, all tied together and 4 of them died at once. If the body is swollen, the lingered a while after the impact because their heart was still pumping blood into the ruptured cells. If the body is not swollen, they died instantly of cardiac shock. Most of the bodies are swollen beyond recognition. The highest work comp premium category around here is "One-story, red iron construction", because workers survive falls from one story. They don't survive falls from multi story buildings. Death claims are relatively cheap. Let that sink in for a minute.
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Quoted: Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. Quoted: Quoted: Fall harnesses and lanyards should catch you with in 4 ft of falling. I teach OSHA safety classes for contractors. 4 ft in the standard and if you lanyard lets you fall farther it is not considered safe. Huh? I was a scaffold builder and a millwright. The lanyard may start out 4 foot long, but by the time the shock absorbing stitches pop out we are probably talking another 3 feer of "stretch". The OP needs to get his ass into an OSHA 10 hour class as I am 100% sure that whatever business or contractor he works for is by law required to buy/furnish the harness and lanyard. Last year, I had a millwright company weasel out of providing me welding gloves. Then I took an online OSHA 10 hour class in the fall. Sure enough, plain as day, it says contractors are supposed to provide for all welding PPE. Some harnesses have loops that drop down like stirrups so you can stand and take some of the pressure off your legs. I'd never look for a cheap fall protection harness...that's like price shopping for condoms
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The commercial roofing suppliers around here all carry "safety in a bucket" from various manufacturers at various price points. Will have everything you need; harness, lanyard, ropes, tie off rigging and hasps/clamps. I usually dispose ours after a year or so and buy brand new ones. Around $175 They are not built for life, each harness and fall arrest system, be it lanyard or cable and ratchet system has a life span and a Discard After Date. It is the responsibility of the employer to provide, train and inspect each piece of equipment. We did ours weekly with a mass inspection every 6 months. We had over 200 employees on high stands or elevated cat walks in harnesses and fall arresters. During mass inspections, I would carry a pair of EMT Shears and destroy any harness that was close to its due date or showed fraying and wear. Never, ever, ever buy used. Its your ass. |
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Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! A cheap harness to save your life if you fall 5 stories? That's like wanting a high point for your ccw ........ Just spend the 300 or so and buy a dbi Sala exofit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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What is the rope for? For use as a lanyard? Please don't do that! Get a retractable lanyard to go with your harness. This will eliminate the need for a shock lead.
Safety first, last and always. My creds: I have supervised and managed over 1 million manhours without a recordable or lost time incident. Take all safety training seriously and seek out as much as you can. Become your own safety advocate and try to learn the job of the safety supervisor. Remember, he just has to take you to the clinic and write a report, you have to go through the pain and loss. |
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Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! A cheap harness to save your life if you fall 5 stories? if you fall 5 stories, your lanyard was probably too long. That's the worst part of any fall. |
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I've been wearing this one for about a year and a half (so it's about time for a new one). I build scaffold for a living and wear it 8-10 hours a day. It's comfortable, durable, and only set me back around $135 after shipping. My company provides us with Miller twin turbos, which are retractable and will keep you from falling the extra length you would see from a 6' lanyard.
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What is the rope for? For use as a lanyard? Please don't do that! Get a retractable lanyard to go with your harness. This will eliminate the need for a shock lead. Safety first, last and always. My creds: I have supervised and managed over 1 million manhours without a recordable or lost time incident. Take all safety training seriously and seek out as much as you can. Become your own safety advocate and try to learn the job of the safety supervisor. Remember, he just has to take you to the clinic and write a report, you have to go through the pain and loss. Well Mr. Safety the rope is for a rope grab. Never ran someone off on a roof job? 
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Well Mr. Safety the rope is for a rope grab. Never ran someone off on a roof job?
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What is the rope for? For use as a lanyard? Please don't do that! Get a retractable lanyard to go with your harness. This will eliminate the need for a shock lead. Safety first, last and always. My creds: I have supervised and managed over 1 million manhours without a recordable or lost time incident. Take all safety training seriously and seek out as much as you can. Become your own safety advocate and try to learn the job of the safety supervisor. Remember, he just has to take you to the clinic and write a report, you have to go through the pain and loss. Well Mr. Safety the rope is for a rope grab. Never ran someone off on a roof job?
Lol, no roofing here. Heavy civil, bridges, roads, some power work. What is it for? |
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That's like wanting a high point for your ccw ........ Just spend the 300 or so and buy a dbi Sala exofit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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Looking for a cheap, but good quality setup. I'm going to be working on 2-5 story buildings. Need everything including all hardware, harness and 75 feet of decent rope. Thanks! A cheap harness to save your life if you fall 5 stories? That's like wanting a high point for your ccw ........ Just spend the 300 or so and buy a dbi Sala exofit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Hit the nail on t he head right here. Take a look at the DBI stuff. It is top notch. |
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Lol, no roofing here. Heavy civil, bridges, roads, some power work. What is it for? Quoted:
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What is the rope for? For use as a lanyard? Please don't do that! Get a retractable lanyard to go with your harness. This will eliminate the need for a shock lead. Safety first, last and always. My creds: I have supervised and managed over 1 million manhours without a recordable or lost time incident. Take all safety training seriously and seek out as much as you can. Become your own safety advocate and try to learn the job of the safety supervisor. Remember, he just has to take you to the clinic and write a report, you have to go through the pain and loss. Well Mr. Safety the rope is for a rope grab. Never ran someone off on a roof job?
Lol, no roofing here. Heavy civil, bridges, roads, some power work. What is it for? So you can move around the roof and work. |
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Lowes and HomeDepot have everything you need in a $100 bucket. Find a new anchor point, 75 feet is too much.
http://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Hardware-Workwear-Safety-Gear-Equipment-Safety-Gear/N-5yc1vZc1xr/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-fall+protection?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5 ETA: Cheap is a bad word in this instance, affordable is better. A name brand affordable outfit will save your bacon just as well as any expensive gear, but is less comfortable during use and will have fewer options, ie integral tool belt, adjustments etc. |
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Let's not forget the anchor point. Without an engineered and appropriate anchor point none of your fall protection gear means shit. Don't go cheap on a harness. All day working comfort is as important as it's ability to save you. If you are climbing you need a good yo-yo line not just a lanyard. As someone mentioned, you can't work alone. You need a rescue plan and that will involve another person in a harness and a separate anchor point and yo-yo or lanyard ready to recover you in the event of a fall. The Sala yo-yos we use have a slow decent switch which is a damn nice feature. The rescuer can ascend to the fallen persons yo-yo and trip the switch and slowly lower the fallen person to the ground. There is much to consider. It's not as simple as just putting this shit on and going to work. If you don't know how this shit works you might as well not even be using it.
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Having worked more accidental falling deaths cases than I'd care to recount, I can tell you that they are easy to diagnose... Welders falling from tops of municipal water towers. Derrick hands falling from 20-story work over rigs. Cell tower repairmen falling from cell towers, all tied together and 4 of them died at once. If the body is swollen, the lingered a while after the impact because their heart was still pumping blood into the ruptured cells. If the body is not swollen, they died instantly of cardiac shock. Most of the bodies are swollen beyond recognition. The highest work comp premium category around here is "One-story, red iron construction", because workers survive falls from one story. They don't survive falls from multi story buildings. Death claims are relatively cheap. Let that sink in for a minute. wow, just wow  Learn something new every day!!  I would imagine the last thought once you hit the ground if your still conscious is "I wish I was dead?"
I need to occasionally get up on my 3 story roof to place insulation over skylights and clean gutters. I found this. Overall, the height at which 50% of children die from a fall is between four and five storey heights (around 40 to 50 feet or 12 to 15 meters) above the ground. I wonder if adults have a higher mortality rate compared with children falling from this height. |
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The DBI-Sala fall protection harness are the most comfortable if you have to wear them during the entire work day.
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The DBI-Sala fall protection harness are the most comfortable if you have to wear them during the entire work day. DBI-Sala fall protection Guardian edge is more comfortable to me or it was until we went to nano-loks. |
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If you go cheap get some medical tape for your nipples. Learned that one the hard way spending a few days in a bucket truck wearing a t-shirt underneath. ETA: I normally use a cheapo SAS (i think) but was using a werner a couple weeks go that was waaaay more comfortable for all day wear.
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The DBI-Sala fall protection harness are the most comfortable if you have to wear them during the entire work day. DBI-Sala fall protection My personal experience aligns with this. |