[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Hey LEO (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/24/2014 7:30:15 PM EDT
| What is the law for you guys on speeding? I am curious on state laws as far as pulling someone over? I saw a cop a few nights ago turn on his lights for a motorcycle and he gunned it and took off and the cop turned off is lights and pulled into a gas station. |
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What is the law for you guys on speeding? I am curious on state laws as far as pulling someone over? I saw a cop a few nights ago turn on his lights for a motorcycle and he gunned it and took off and the cop turned off is lights and pulled into a gas station. Sounds like a smart officer. |
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Who gunned it? The motorcycle ? I don't pursue them. I have clocked plenty doing 40+ over. Not worth it. The biker took off. I was in the middle lane just cruising with traffic and the cop went to pull over a biker and he looked back at the cop and I heard him downshift and boom he was gone. The cop just pulled off. |
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We have a no pursuit policy on motorcycles that run. Too dangerous for the biker, other drivers and the officer. Not worth it. we'll scrape him off the pavement soon enough due to his own negligence eventually. I kind of figured that. What about on cars? You don't see a lot of speeding on Army bases 
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Yeah it isn't worth it. The shift supervisor always made the call whether or not to risk it. Whoever was calling the chase would let him/her know what the speed was.
When I was working in Missouri 95 and over was a mandatory arrest. Troopers would bring them in all the time. They would chase someone who took off on a motorcycle occasionally. The cars I drove never liked going much over 110 mph.. They would start to shake and make disconcerting noises.
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They usually don't chase us them.  I Daily drive a truck. I have a cousin that drove a few times 150 mph+ on the highway and iam just wondering if a cop gunned him and saw that what he or she would think. Chase or just say ahh not worth it. FL I heard had a no chase policy unless a felon. |
| If the cop chases the motorcyclist and he flames out and gets killed, the surviving family will sue (or threat to), and the pd doesn't want any part of that liability. It sucks, but that's the way it it. Reckless motorcyclists are usually a self correcting problem anyway ... Just give em some time. |
| He'll probably have a summons in the mail in a few days. Most cops I've known don't turn the lights on until they've got the plate. And if he's wanted he'll have more than that show up at his house. And if the bike is stolen he'll get his sooner or later by someone, then he might wish he had have stopped for the cop. |
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Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. Quoted:
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Well I am kind of curious now. Does anybody think that some highways in the US be like the autobahn in Germany? I.E. I95, I10 etc.? Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. I thought they changed that. The last time I was there I don't remember seeing it, but I could be wrong. |
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I thought they changed that. The last time I was there I don't remember seeing it, but I could be wrong. Quoted:
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Well I am kind of curious now. Does anybody think that some highways in the US be like the autobahn in Germany? I.E. I95, I10 etc.? Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. I thought they changed that. The last time I was there I don't remember seeing it, but I could be wrong. I thought the govt threatened to pull some funding or something unless they made limits. Regarding bikes, they are usually a self-correcting problem, and you aren't going to catch up to them anyway. |
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Quoted: Who gunned it? The motorcycle ? I don't pursue them. I have clocked plenty doing 40+ over. Not worth it. He walked up got my info and came back "well I see you are 33 years old , have a helmet, have insurance ,have valid registration, have a valid operators lic, have a MC endorsement,all the lights are intact and functioning on your bike , and you didn't run . I am completely shocked ,and besides the laser is hard to lock on a bike I know how fast you were going , you know how fast you were going , so cut it out and have a nice day |
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The biker took off. I was in the middle lane just cruising with traffic and the cop went to pull over a biker and he looked back at the cop and I heard him downshift and boom he was gone. The cop just pulled off. Quoted:
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Who gunned it? The motorcycle ? I don't pursue them. I have clocked plenty doing 40+ over. Not worth it. The biker took off. I was in the middle lane just cruising with traffic and the cop went to pull over a biker and he looked back at the cop and I heard him downshift and boom he was gone. The cop just pulled off. Any time I tried to go after a bike I never even finished saying the word "motorcycle" over the radio before the Sgt. called it off. I may have chased "a few" in my time. 
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I kind of figured that. What about on cars? Pretty much needed to be a murder for them to let us chase. Quoted:
He'll probably have a summons in the mail in a few days. Most cops I've known don't turn the lights on until they've got the plate. I'd say over 95% of the bikes we came across had bogus pates. Weren't allowed to mail a ticket anyway. |
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I've chased four motorcycles in my career.
The first was a Harley for not wearing eye protection. He made it 4 miles and wrecked. Sent to the hospital, treated for minor cuts and bruises, and then to jail. Second was a dirt bike. I lost him in a gravel quarry, but the chopper found him trying to ditch the bike under a bridge. He went to jail. Third was a Ducati. After 7 miles and top speeds of 110 mph, I said fuck it and called it off. Chopper was down due to thunderstorms. Yes, you read that right, the Ducati was going 110 mph in a thunderstorm to get out of a red light ticket. Fourth was another cruiser. I stayed on his ass for 11 miles, and he pulled over and gave up. Most cruisers can't outrun a Charger or a CVPI. Most street bikes can. Dirt bikes are cheaters. |
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Well I am kind of curious now. Does anybody think that some highways in the US be like the autobahn in Germany? I.E. I95, I10 etc.? I haven't seen "I95, I10 " but I have been on the autobahn. Its a world of difference guys. When their is a pothole or other deformity created on the autobahn they don't "patch" it. The replace that entire section of the roadway. The banking on the curves, the gradients etc.. Its very precisely engineered to allow cars to drive 200mph between the towns where there still is no speed limit. (When I was there in 1996 anyway) Yeah, so here's me doing 120mph in the slow lane. I'm driving my ultimate cheap-O Opel, 1.3L 3 cylinder engine running flat out, heater on to the max to keep the car from overheating, Running outa daylight and trying to make 200km before dark. Anyway a car comes up in my rearview mirror, flash of headlights and he's gone before I have anything other than the rough outline of the car and color. 200mph or so 3 feet off my driverside mirror. Nobody hogs the fast lane, the countryside is beautiful! 
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Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. Quoted:
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Well I am kind of curious now. Does anybody think that some highways in the US be like the autobahn in Germany? I.E. I95, I10 etc.? Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. I'd be all for it if there was a requirement that slower traffic kept right or got a ticket. Lately it seems that there are large numbers of people on the freeway driving in the middle two lanes (usually 5 lanes) doing 15 or 20 under, and even more than that under in the right lane. Speed limit is 65, so a wall of cars 3 lanes across moving at anything from 40-55 miles an hour with no other traffic present is a rolling hazard to navigation. Never see them get pulled over for it. If you can't manage anything faster than 45, get the fuck off the freeway. The surface streets go the same places at speeds you're more comfortable with, and you won't be a fucking obstacle to everyone else on the road. And if you can't manage more than 20 in a 45, you should hang up your cell phone or turn in your license or both. You are a shitty driver and are going to cause an accident. 70% of those fucktards are on the phone, and the other 30% are over 70. There is no ice on the road in Phoenix. It hasn't rained in months. There's no fog and the road is straight and flat. A trained monkey could maintain speed and heading on our surface streets. And the on ramp? Yeah, that's there for you to accellerate to a speed sufficient to merge into traffic. You should be carrying enough delta-v that merging doesn't cause the car behind you to slam on the brakes to avoid plowing into your vehicle that is moving at 15 miles an hour compared to freeway traffic moving at more than 4 times that speed. |
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There's possibly a couple things at play.
Officer discretion... which would in a perfect world be enough, but many lack it. So then there's policy. Our local dept, no pursuit policy, they are not to do it. Mainly this applies to traffic. Try to kill somebody, rob a bank, or commit some other high level felony and they will be pursuing. They may also assist another dept if a chase comes into their jurisdiction and they are approved by their chain of command. They are not supposed to exceed 80mph for any reason without approval, if they exceed 90mph they will be explaining themselves. That part is pretty damned stupid when you have a guy doing traffic on the interstate, it will take you half the state to catch a guy doing ten over if you can't run 80-90 at least, of course doing so would require discretion, but it makes decent sense on the surface streets. HP don't give a shit, they operate on discretion, seems most lack it. Not sure on the local SOs The town I lived in in AK broke off pursuits at 80 or 100 I forget which, they made the rule after a pursued driver ran into and killed most if not all of a family, all five agencies operating there obeyed it. Motorcycles are kinda silly to pursue, even shitty little ones can out handle any police cruiser, and the bigger ones can easily outrun them. |
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I would think the smart thing to do would be to get the plate number off the plate reader many cruisers have and pay a visit to the address on the plates. Think it would be hard to prove who is riding with a full face helmet.. Never had a cop chase me on my CBR.. Would have stopped if they had.. Had a few flip on the overheads to slow me down.. But they never follow. |
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Think it would be hard to prove who is riding with a full face helmet.. Never had a cop chase me on my CBR.. Would have stopped if they had.. Had a few flip on the overheads to slow me down.. But they never follow. Quoted:
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I would think the smart thing to do would be to get the plate number off the plate reader many cruisers have and pay a visit to the address on the plates. Think it would be hard to prove who is riding with a full face helmet.. Never had a cop chase me on my CBR.. Would have stopped if they had.. Had a few flip on the overheads to slow me down.. But they never follow. I bet they could get more than a few tards to admit it was them speeding. You are right if they kept their mouth shut they would be G2G. |
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I bet they could get more than a few tards to admit it was them speeding. You are right if they kept their mouth shut they would be G2G. Quoted:
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I would think the smart thing to do would be to get the plate number off the plate reader many cruisers have and pay a visit to the address on the plates. Think it would be hard to prove who is riding with a full face helmet.. Never had a cop chase me on my CBR.. Would have stopped if they had.. Had a few flip on the overheads to slow me down.. But they never follow. I bet they could get more than a few tards to admit it was them speeding. You are right if they kept their mouth shut they would be G2G. Like red light tickets, send enough out and someone will pay.. Until they all find out they don't have to.. |
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Ya know I'd like to thank the OP.
Thank you OP for posting a thread that's been posted here in one form or another a thousand times before. The question may have been sincere but I'm tired. It's late. This episode of Conan ain't that good and sleep is the best option at this point. So thank you for bringing me to that conclusion. To help the thread move along a bit quicker let me take a moment and post the most common responses. Ahem..... "Isolated incident" "ya don't say?" "and they wonder why we don't trust them" "and they wonder why we don't care" "I don't want to post a coc violation but (insert coc violation)" "the camera doesn't show everything junior" "do you support the law or civil rights?" "Cops don't care" "crybaby 13er" "Cops lie" "GD at its best" Don't know if I covered it all but let's hope that works for you. |
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I Daily drive a truck. I have a cousin that drove a few times 150 mph+ on the highway and iam just wondering if a cop gunned him and saw that what he or she would think. Chase or just say ahh not worth it. FL I heard had a no chase policy unless a felon. Quoted:
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They usually don't chase us them. I Daily drive a truck. I have a cousin that drove a few times 150 mph+ on the highway and iam just wondering if a cop gunned him and saw that what he or she would think. Chase or just say ahh not worth it. FL I heard had a no chase policy unless a felon. I got chased down in Nevada once in a buddy's Porsche at about 140.
Cop was driving a ZR1. We drove away $5 lighter, with a fuel conservation ticket and a warning about hard to see cattle on the interstate. 
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Quoted: If you can get it off the tree,  just had a local die after running from the cops here. He was doing 100, slowed to 70 and wrapped his ass around one of those darn fricken trees we have here  Quoted: Quoted: They call them donor cycles for a reason. If you can get it off the tree, just had a local die after running from the cops here. He was doing 100, slowed to 70 and wrapped his ass around one of those darn fricken trees we have here You need to ban those trees!!! |
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I believe there were 12 speeding tickets written by all shifts in my town last year.
It's just not a priority. The way speeding is dealt with is posting lower than usual limits so that people think going 15 over might be pushing it. It helps to not need the revenue and have a CLEO who doesn't want wasted court time. If you get a speeding ticket in my town,you honestly were being a dick in terms of velocity,where and demeanor towards officer who tugged you. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Too dangerous for the biker, other drivers and the officer. Not worth it. we'll scrape him off the pavement soon enough due to his own negligence eventually. This. There is a specific douche here in town I can think of that will dump his bike eventually being a jackass. |
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I thought the govt threatened to pull some funding or something unless they made limits. Regarding bikes, they are usually a self-correcting problem, and you aren't going to catch up to them anyway. Quoted:
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Well I am kind of curious now. Does anybody think that some highways in the US be like the autobahn in Germany? I.E. I95, I10 etc.? Isn't there a highway in Montana that has no day time limits? I could be way off, but I though I read that somewhere. I thought they changed that. The last time I was there I don't remember seeing it, but I could be wrong. I thought the govt threatened to pull some funding or something unless they made limits. Regarding bikes, they are usually a self-correcting problem, and you aren't going to catch up to them anyway. The Dodge Charger and the Eco-Boost Ford Taurus will keep up with most on a highway with minimal traffic. I've done it in a pursuit Charger with the 5.7 Hemi until he hit 150. He wasn't on a big bike but it wasn't small either. |
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We don't pursue for misdemeanors here. Which essentially means if someone runs for a traffic violation we don't pursue/it gets canceled by watch commander.
Not worth a little family of four getting killed by some retard running from the police over speeding, running a red light, etc. We get the plate number and we can be waiting for them when they get home anyways. Funniest thing is at least 60% of the time we cancel the pursuit and less then 5 minutes later we roll up on that vehicle crashed out somewhere. Apparently they so busy trying to get away from the police that aint chasing them they lose control. The brass' logic is if we chasing them for BS and they kill someone it brings us heat. However I kinda wonder how that looks if we cancel the pursuit then 5 minutes later they still running and they kill someone... Would we be liable, I mean, if we were behind them lights and sirens perhaps the victim who got killed would have moved off the roadway.. Catch 22 I suppose. |
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I think speed limits on highways are dumb. People will drive at the speed that they are comfortable, and speed limits cause accidents in many cases - it interrupts the natural flow of traffic. I totally get having speed limits on the side roads (and many of them should be lowered to 35-45mph, IMO), but highways are for motorized vehicles ONLY, and if people knew how to drive/ride, they would be able to determine the appropriate speed for conditions and traffic (its really not that hard). Sadly, most people are too stupid to understand this and have this false fear that the highways will become a wild, anarchistic no-mans land dominated by loony toons.
That being said, they shouldn't build highways/freeways with less than three lanes, period. Traffic flows MUCH better, IMO. |
| My former agency here in western NY did not allow pursuits for any traffic violation, it was pretty much for violent felonies only, with a few exceptions. At first I did not agree with the policy but as I matured as a policemen and became better acquainted with the statistics on innocent fatalities arising from police pursuits I came around. Sometimes pursuits are necessary, most of the time, particularly when they only involve a traffic violation, they are not. As for NY State law, it allows pursuit for any violation, only stipulating that the officer does not recklessly endanger other motorists. (I can't remember the wording, but it is something like that). With a few exceptions, around here only the NYSP still pursue for pretty much anything. |
