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5/6/2014 2:17:23 PM EDT
So at work today an officer drove off with their gun on the roof of their car and it fell off unnoticed in the parking lot, to be found by some random city admin types.
Rumor has it the department's policy is automatic termination. I'm a bit skeptical of that. Any other depts have a similar policy?

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5/6/2014 2:17:43 PM EDT
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No.
5/6/2014 2:19:06 PM EDT
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So at work today an officer drove off with their gun on the roof of their car and it fell off unnoticed in the parking lot, to be found by some random city admin types.
Rumor has it the departments policy is automatic termination. I'm a bit skeptical of that. Any other depts have a similar policy?

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as it should be
5/6/2014 2:19:27 PM EDT
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What if they give you a pack of swedish fish to look the other way?
5/6/2014 2:24:44 PM EDT
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I did the same thing with my change pouch when I was the pizza guy.

Hundreds of dollars in that thing.  


5/6/2014 2:25:52 PM EDT
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What if they give you a pack of swedish fish to look the other way?


Like movie theater size or 5 lb bag?
5/6/2014 2:26:02 PM EDT
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What sort of gun was it?  Finders-keepers and all that
5/6/2014 2:31:04 PM EDT
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M&P 9 or 40 I don't know, they're transitioning. I said it was found not disappeared.

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5/6/2014 2:32:45 PM EDT
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it does sound like someone shouldn't be a cop anymore.
5/6/2014 2:34:20 PM EDT
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That's happened in Seattle a few times.



Its a screwup, not a deliberate act. Not sure the point of punishing the officer over it.
5/6/2014 2:34:30 PM EDT
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Meh.  Maybe a few days on the beach.  By the time the IA investigation is done summer will be in full swing and will be perfect timing for such an unpaid vacation.  

You know you should have picked up that can along with the firearm, citizen.
5/6/2014 2:35:17 PM EDT
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something called being responsible for a lethal weapon??
5/6/2014 2:38:54 PM EDT
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Cop will likely get a few days off without pay, but not terminated unless there is a pattern of such behavior.



We had an officer leave his pistol on the crapper at the courthouse.

Lots of fun ensued, got it back a few weeks later after a traffic pursuit and crash.
5/6/2014 2:41:42 PM EDT
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A cop with a clean record ? Ehh a week off without pay and then some extra weapons safety and retention training should do.
If he has a history of slacking off and messing up, fired.
5/6/2014 2:52:14 PM EDT
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20 day's pay penalty and most likely a year of departmental probation where I worked.

ETA: Thats for a cop with a clean disciplinary record.
5/6/2014 3:01:57 PM EDT
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Not at any agency I have seen. Punisment would be situation dependent, and if the guy was already a shitbag. At least a couple days off, up to and including termination. It would be an oddly specific (and rare) thing to be codified as auto termination in SOPs.
5/6/2014 3:04:59 PM EDT
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Firing a guy for that would be stupid, unless he had a long history of dumbassery.
5/6/2014 3:06:16 PM EDT
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Its a screwup, not a deliberate act. Not sure the point of punishing the officer over it.




something called being responsible for a lethal weapon??
A pen can be a lethal weapon. Few days on the beach for a first timer.

 
5/6/2014 3:07:09 PM EDT
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Am I the only one that has never put shit on the top of my car?
5/6/2014 3:08:40 PM EDT
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Still the same where he worked.
5/6/2014 3:29:50 PM EDT
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I'm guilty of it, lost my Razr cellphone years ago that way. It did the Brooklyn bounce and was never seen again.
5/6/2014 3:35:08 PM EDT
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I've done it once. Once.

 



That was all it took, so I don't do it anymore. And it was an owner's manual, not a gun.
5/6/2014 3:36:21 PM EDT
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i drive a softtop, i have never put anything on top of my car.
5/6/2014 3:38:58 PM EDT
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That was all it took, so I don't do it anymore. And it was an owner's manual, not a gun.
Could come in handy for wheel locks.

 
5/6/2014 3:39:38 PM EDT
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That was all it took, so I don't do it anymore. And it was an owner's manual, not a gun.
Could come in handy for wheel locks.  
Could be.

 
5/6/2014 3:41:43 PM EDT
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Lost a DUI report that way, left my clipboard up there....


Spent the next hour walking the 3 miles or so to the station looking for pages while my FTO drove.
5/6/2014 3:43:28 PM EDT
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OK, say a kid picks it up, thinks it's a toy, and shoots someone.

Should the LEO be punished then?

5/6/2014 3:45:02 PM EDT
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Isolated incident.
5/6/2014 3:45:27 PM EDT
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No.
5/6/2014 3:47:05 PM EDT
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There would be discipline for sure.

It would depend on how many other disciplines were on the officers record and how frequent they were that would determine termination or not.

Ay least that's how our policy is.
5/6/2014 3:49:09 PM EDT
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Probably. I've never done it with a weapon, but I've got a clipboard box all bent to shit from it.
5/6/2014 3:58:35 PM EDT
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Never heard anything or read anything for that kind of situation, but there would be hell to pay if it happened, the officer might not get fired, but might wish they had!
5/6/2014 4:01:32 PM EDT
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I say give them a pink plastic training dummy gun for 90 days after he comes back from suspension.

5/6/2014 4:03:15 PM EDT
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Someone got a sweet drop gun
5/6/2014 4:06:20 PM EDT
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What if they give you a pack of swedish fish to look the other way?


Like movie theater size or 5 lb bag?


5lb
5/6/2014 4:07:41 PM EDT
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To clarify..I'm talking about my personal vehicle, not a patrol car. I'm guessing I'd have a lot more stuff in my hands if I were a LEO. But I hear all the time of people leaving stuff on top of their cars and I have never put anything up there to forget. I guess it stems from my lack of wanting to screw the car's paint up.
5/6/2014 4:09:31 PM EDT
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One of the guys left his issued m-16 at the range.

I took it back to the office and gave it to him.

Did not say anything.

Couple years later someone drove my unattended blazer to the local bar.

He had his trainee bring it back to me.  Did not say anything.

Stuff happens.

5/6/2014 4:11:03 PM EDT
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One of the guys left his issued m-16 at the range.

I took it back to the office and gave it to him.

Did not say anything.

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He had his trainee bring it back to me.  Did not say anything.

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5/6/2014 4:11:32 PM EDT
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Army threatens losing a firearm or misplacing it is a chapter. Doesn't happen like that. I cannot tell you how many times in Iraq or Afghanistan a soldier has "misplaced" their weapon. Shit cray.
5/6/2014 4:13:23 PM EDT
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I was in a hurry one morning and was driving out of the parking lot when my shotgun slid off of the top of my patrol car, i heard it slide and saw it in my mirror hit the ground and my heart skipped a beat. As luck would have it, my supervisor saw my mishap and as i retrieved mw weapon he proceeded to chew my ass right there on the side of the road i didn't live that down for quite some time, took a reprimand on moved on. never happened again. that was 10 years ago
5/6/2014 4:19:18 PM EDT
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No one cares about those people. Imagine if you lost your m4 or saw stateside
5/6/2014 4:22:50 PM EDT
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Oops.