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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:18:55 PM EDT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612353/A-message-Moscow-First-600-U-S-soldiers-arrive-eastern-Europe-prompting-Kremlin-launch-military-drills-near-border-death-toll-rises-Ukraine.html
http://news.yahoo.com/us-troops-land-latvia-amid-ukraine-crisis-135554490.html Riga (AFP) - Latvia on Friday welcomed American troops on its soil, part of a US force of 600 sent to the region to reassure the Baltic states amid concern over Russia's actions in Ukraine.
Some 150 troops from the 173rd Airborne Brigade will be based at the Adazi base near capital Riga until at least the end of the year, according to the Latvian defence ministry Around 150 soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade arrived yesterday at an air force base in Swidwin, western Poland, as the U.S. stepped up its presence in eastern Europe.
Flying to the region from their previous posting in Italy, they were met by Polish troops in similar red berets and the nation's defence minister. Within a few days there will be 450 more American Nato troops spread between Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all have their own Russian-speaking minorities and governments there are worries the crisis in Ukraine could spread. The Latvian government welcomed the move, calling it a 'fast and practical response.' Estonian Defence Minister Sven Mikser added it 'significantly increases the security of Estonia.' And Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite said the deployments would 'strengthen our readiness for collective defence and will add to ensuring safety of our people.' Poland, which only emerged from Soviet-imposed communism in 1989, has also called for a strong presence of western troops. 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:19:45 PM EDT
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We need to be sending a LOT more.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:22:19 PM EDT
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We need to be sending a LOT more. They're just there to be a tripwire. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:22:28 PM EDT
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450 troops spread across 4 countries?
Jesus H. Christ. I'll bet there are piles of shitty pants all over the Kremlin floor. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:27:22 PM EDT
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Not near enough.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:29:10 PM EDT
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Did they bring potato?
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:31:25 PM EDT
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....?
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:32:50 PM EDT
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I think the point is that if American troops are on the ground Putin is a lot less likely to try anything. Ultimately it's about letting the Baltic states sleep better at night because they know this too.
However it's still frustrating considering Lativa and Lithuania spend 0.8% and 0.9% of their GDP on defense. NATO minimum is 2%. Not really carrying their weight. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:33:29 PM EDT
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? Ever heard of NATO? Don't disagree about other countries committing too, but it is our fight. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:36:46 PM EDT
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There not there for battle support. If anything were to happen to any of these troops then game over and we be at war . They are there for insurence
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:38:00 PM EDT
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Can't hold a guidon for shit.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:38:33 PM EDT
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Looks like we're looking to increase troop levels in Romania, as well.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:41:26 PM EDT
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This is such bullshit.
Putin probably wont have to invade much more of anything 'cause he'll get what he wants through intimidation. Then Obama and shit-for-brains Biden will claim they made Putin back down with a show of military force, and demonstrated just how operator they really are. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:41:59 PM EDT
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Zero likes to poke medved in the eye, doesn't he?
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:44:24 PM EDT
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There not there for battle support. If anything were to happen to any of these troops then game over and we be at war . They are there for insurence Great. Is "Coal Mine Canary" an official MOS? I hear what you're saying, but it still feels sketchy. This administration doesn't have a real strong track record of standing behind US personnel in dangerous situations overseas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:44:42 PM EDT
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? Yeah, that isolationism worked great in the early '40s. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:45:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:45:24 PM EDT
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Funny how most of the world bad mouths us until the big bad wolf rears his ugly head and they need us to save their ass.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:47:04 PM EDT
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I just hope someone e who knows what they are doing is pulling Zero's strings for this deal.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:47:08 PM EDT
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We need to be sending a LOT more. No shit. I was just in Poland, they are on edge. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:47:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:48:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:49:11 PM EDT
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You gotta be shitting me. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryI'm not even surprised anymore. 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:50:09 PM EDT
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I don't remember Fruity Barry sending in this many troop when Benghazi was going down.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:51:04 PM EDT
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You know they are ally nations that helped and fought along side us in Iraq, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? wait realy |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:51:55 PM EDT
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wait realy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? wait realy Really. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:52:34 PM EDT
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I'd be fucking thrilled to get posted in an eastern European country with few American influences with hot ass broads on base and in town
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Bingo.
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There not there for battle support. If anything were to happen to any of these troops then game over and we be at war . They are there for insurence |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:53:22 PM EDT
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They're just there to be a tripwire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to be sending a LOT more. They're just there to be a tripwire. Indeed. God bless 'em. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:55:35 PM EDT
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We need to be sending a LOT more. How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:56:51 PM EDT
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How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to be sending a LOT more. How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL Because it worked so well, twice before. 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:57:28 PM EDT
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How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to be sending a LOT more. How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL Never mind the fact that they've contributed more than their fair share to Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:57:52 PM EDT
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No shit. I was just in Poland, they are on edge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to be sending a LOT more. No shit. I was just in Poland, they are on edge. LOL GEE, I wonder why??? 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:57:58 PM EDT
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These soldiers are sacrificial. Trip wires. We shouldn't be doing this. There are better ways of discouraging the Russians, but our Fine Young President refuses to exercise the options open to him
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:58:46 PM EDT
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I'd be fucking thrilled to get posted in an eastern European country with few American influences with hot ass broads on base and in town POOR AND HUNGRY hot ass broads! |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 3:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: POOR AND HUNGRY hot ass broads! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd be fucking thrilled to get posted in an eastern European country with few American influences with hot ass broads on base and in town POOR AND HUNGRY hot ass broads! |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:00:10 PM EDT
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These soldiers are sacrificial. Trip wires. We shouldn't be doing this. There are better ways of discouraging the Russians, but our Fine Young President refuses to exercise the options open to him Like what? |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:01:19 PM EDT
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Fuck yea! Looking for American Babies too I bet! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd be fucking thrilled to get posted in an eastern European country with few American influences with hot ass broads on base and in town POOR AND HUNGRY hot ass broads! The road to American Citizenship is a slippery wet one. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:01:29 PM EDT
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:03:47 PM EDT
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The road to American Citizenship is a slippery wet one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd be fucking thrilled to get posted in an eastern European country with few American influences with hot ass broads on base and in town POOR AND HUNGRY hot ass broads! The road to American Citizenship is a slippery wet one. Sounds like a good time |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:05:13 PM EDT
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I'm not even surprised anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm not even surprised anymore. What am I missing here? I feel like I should be outraged 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:07:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI just dont get all this hashtag shit .....I guess Im just too old  |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:10:32 PM EDT
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Funny how most of the world bad mouths us until the big bad wolf rears his ugly head and they need us to save their ass. Actually, most of the former Iron Curtain countries that we are assisting right now have not bad mouthed us. At least not to my knowledge. If they have badmouthed us it is because of the lack of backbone that 0 has shown for several years now. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:10:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, that isolationism worked great in the early '40s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? Yeah, that isolationism worked great in the early '40s. Canada sent planners to SHAPE France is sending a flight of Rafales to Poland. Britain already has.... As it stands the alliance is working... so far, Germany is the one we need to watch now |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:11:12 PM EDT
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I just dont get all this hashtag shit .....I guess Im just too old
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I just dont get all this hashtag shit .....I guess Im just too old
Hashtag international diplomacy, yo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:11:39 PM EDT
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How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to be sending a LOT more. How about NOT SENDING THEM AT ALL How about studying history. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:12:16 PM EDT
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Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies. That's what I'm talking about brah! Let's break out the plastic, it's the American way! 
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:14:00 PM EDT
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Canada sent planners to SHAPE France is sending a flight of Rafales to Poland. Britain already has.... As it stands the alliance is working... so far, Germany is the one we need to watch now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? Yeah, that isolationism worked great in the early '40s. Canada sent planners to SHAPE France is sending a flight of Rafales to Poland. Britain already has.... As it stands the alliance is working... so far, Germany is the one we need to watch now I ain't knocking them, I was responding to the isolationist stupidity. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:14:44 PM EDT
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Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies. Some prophetic words from John Quincy Adams. "She (America) has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit...." |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 4:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some prophetic words from John Quincy Adams. "She (America) has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit...." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Should be zero. Not our fight. Where's France, Germany, Great Britain....? This. People need to take a look at all the maps of Europe over the last 1,000 years. It's always going to be changing. The independent nation of Ukraine did not even exist 25 years ago, its borders were arbitrarily drawn up by bureaucrats, without regard to the culture or ongoing rivalries within each territory. That's why you have some Ukrainians who feel loyal to Russia and some who Identify as westerners. Borders are going to change regardless of what we do and I see no benefit to getting involved in the border disputes of former USSR states. Economically speaking, the EU is just as fucked as Russia. I hate both sides. Do you even NATO bro? This is about answering the pleadings of our NATO allies, and is small payment towards their helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are our legit allies, and deserve our support when they feel legitimately threatened, as they are now. I am 100% behind American troops supporting American allies. Some prophetic words from John Quincy Adams. "She (America) has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit...." |
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