Posted: 3/11/2014 11:15:58 AM EDT
| How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. |
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How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. You go first, let us know how that turns out. |
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Quoted: How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. Admit it, you're on your phone at recess. Better hide that or the teachers will take it away
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How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. It's not that we are scared but we have little to fight with, diplomatically. Blame Biden and Obama for lobbying congress to repeal the Jackson-Vanik amendment. Congress obliged in 2012 which Obama signed. However, when faced with lemons make lemonade. Obama can scare the crap out of Putin and the Russians by legislating the amendment back. Don't know what the Jackson-Vanik amendment is? Look it up or be one of the low-information age voters. Look up PNTR as well and note Bill Clinton signed that. |
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What would be in it for us?  I agree, nothing. At a time when our Fearless leader is cutting our military to the bone. Having a shooting war with Russia would be a stupid thing to do. Actually not a really smart thing to do with a strong military. Things get out of control, out come the Nukes. Another thing Obamy wants to cut. We could help with arms deliveries. But we have to borrow money from the Chi-Coms to do that We sold Poland down the tubes with missile defense. So tell me who would trust us, now? Our Kenyan King has ruined what little respect we had in the world. We will become a 3rd world country under his plans. And you want to start a war with Russia. 
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How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. You go first, let us know how that turns out. |
The Four Seasons.
Biden and Obama are too busy with vacations, Kerry has declared that the four seasons are the biggest threat, and the democrats have decided they need to take action to support Kerry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry has already responded to the Ukraine problem. Kerry told Putin he will not meet with Putin if Russia does not agree to the US proposals. Problem solved. 
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John Kerry Sits In Shadows Of Kiev Cafe; Awaiting Woman Known Only As Dasha KIEV, UKRAINE—Following his overnight arrival in Ukraine amid the escalating regional tensions over the the Crimean peninsula, sources confirmed seeing U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry wearing a trench coat and cloaked in shadows at the back of a seedy, smoke-filled Kiev cafe; Tuesday while reportedly awaiting a woman known to him only as Dasha. "All I know is that my contact goes by the name Dasha, and from the dossier I was given, she’s extremely beautiful, deadly, and not keen on making my life easy,” the United States’ top diplomat was reportedly overheard saying between drags of a pencil-thin cigarette held between his pursed lips. "The one thing I do know is there isn’t a chance in hell this secretary of state leaves Kiev without first making nice with Dasha. No, one way or another I need Dasha, and not just because she’s a mysteriously alluring beauty who’s been known to seduce her share of foreign ministers. I mustn’t underestimate her cunning and intelligence either—let’s just say this is a woman who knows a thing or two, particularly about the socioeconomic realities of eastern Europe and the political divisions among the ethnic populations in the region.” At press time, Kerry had reportedly detected the unmistakable scent of rosewood and nightshade, Dasha’s signature perfume. http://www.theonion.com/articles/john-kerry-sits-in-shadows-of-kiev-cafe-awaiting-w,35436/?ref=auto |
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How come the US will not intervene in the Ukraine crisis? Are we scared of Russia? Of course the great leadership in the white house is. I bet Russia would back down. If not, let the show begin. Gonna happen sooner or later anyway. The US has become a bully, invade countries they know they can whip but when it comes up to standing up to another bully they do nothing. Who says it's a crisis? The news? Obama? |
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None of our business, I know it hasn't stopped us before but hopefully that is changing. We kind of made it our business when we coerced Ukraine into giving up their nukes by guaranteeing we'd get involved. We will lose major influence around the world and our credibility will be absolutely nothing. Otherwise, correct, it should be none of our business. |
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We kind of made it our business when we coerced Ukraine into giving up their nukes by guaranteeing we'd get involved. We will lose major influence around the world and our credibility will be absolutely nothing. Otherwise, correct, it should be none of our business. Quoted:
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None of our business, I know it hasn't stopped us before but hopefully that is changing. We kind of made it our business when we coerced Ukraine into giving up their nukes by guaranteeing we'd get involved. We will lose major influence around the world and our credibility will be absolutely nothing. Otherwise, correct, it should be none of our business. We are already pursuing action against Russia for violating the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. This memorandum is not a NATO level security guarantee, and was signed by the Russians and Chinese. Would you take us to the brink of war over this? Ground troops, naval movements? Which of these do you think are most likely to get us to the resolution that most benefits all Ukrainians, particularly those not terribly keen to sever all ties with Moscow? Besides, we've already been plenty 'involved' in this crisis, acting with our typical, entitled clumsiness to influence events which it's terribly unlikely our diplomats even bother to fully understand, much less our legislators. For an interesting take on how Russia probably looks at the West, this article spells out a lot in this complex situation. It does not easily lend itself to jingoism or sweeping generalizations about our credibility. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/02/crimea-crisis-russia-ukraine-cold-war In Moscow, there is a growing fatigue with the west, with the EU and the United States. Their role in Ukraine is believed to be particularly obnoxious: imposing on Ukraine a choice between the EU and Russia that it could not afford; supporting the opposition against an elected government; turning a blind eye to right-wing radical descendants of wartime Nazi collaborators; siding with the opposition to pressure the government into submission; finally, condoning an unconstitutional regime change. The Kremlin is yet again convinced of the truth of the famous maxim of Alexander III, that Russia has only two friends in the world, its army and its navy. Both now defend its interests in Crimea. |
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Klinton said we's all good bro, givz up yo nukes.
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It's no fun nipping future problems in the bud when they're small and manageable by purely diplomatic means. Way more entertaining to wait until you have a major globe-spanning war which will inevitably lead to millions of deaths. So why was there no global war after Russia invaded Georgia while we did nothing? This is no different today so how does it end up in WWIII? Unless we push the issue of course. You think Russian would send troops if we decided to clean up some of the BS in Mexican border towns? |
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Russia + Crimean Peninsula does not significantly change the balance of power in either the world or the region.
Bad spot for USA to oppose Russia militarily, in the Black Sea so close to them. What would USA do with Crimea if we had it? What would Ukraine do with Crimea for USA is they had it? Bad news for Ukraine, but not worth war for USA, no oil or other resources there. Only if this is the first of several territorial adjustments would it be part of a crisis. |