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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:31:43 AM EDT
Just curious. I am one of a multitude of Members on this site who have not coughed up the required dollars to be on the Team. I have a lot different reasons. I will list below some of the possible reasons. Mind you these are not MY reasons, just possibilities. 1. Tin foil hat excuses A through M. I can see the media coverage. Your question, Senator. Yes. Citizen X, it has be reported that when you were a gun owner, you contributed some funds to a right wing militia website called AR15.com. Would you comment on the veracity of theses reports? 2. Imbroglio. Is this entity a highlight or the downfall of this site. I would tend to think one of the highlights. 3. Too many fundamentalists. I can't join because I don't have Bible program installed on my computer. 4. Too many atheists. Who are these godless heathens anyway? 5. I'm too lazy. If I actually paid money, I might feel compelled use the site. 6. I don't have a cool enough picture for my sig. Besides I don't know how photoshop anyway. 7. They left my state off of the hometown section...the bastards. 8. I don't watch sh*t like The Sopranos. 9. I get tired of the semi-daily "Hit it?" post. There are a lot better sites for girly pics. 10. I don't own an AR15. Like I said, possible reasons. Feel free to post your own, members. Just trying to stir things up a bit. Have an AR15 kind of day. [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:33:50 AM EDT
You'll never make moderator with that attitude mister.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:41:19 AM EDT
1. Tin foil hat excuses A through M. I can see the media coverage. Your question, Senator. Yes. Citizen X, it has be reported that when you were a gun owner, you contributed some funds to a right wing militia website called AR15.com. Would you comment on the veracity of theses reports?
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No threat of me going into public office. Too much other crap under the rug to worry about an "alledged" membership to AR15.com
6. I don't have a cool enough picture for my sig. Besides I don't know how photoshop anyway.
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Working on that.
7. They left my state off of the hometown section...the bastards.
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Lumped in with MA, etc. Not too happy about that.
9. I get tired of the semi-daily "Hit it?" post. There are a lot better sites for girly pics.
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The Internet - It's not just for porn!
10. I don't own an AR15.
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I don't. The Colt AR15 is a banned firearm in my home state, the same home state as Colt. I own a Colt HBar. I will join and my money will go out right after Christmas! -934
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:48:06 AM EDT
2. Imbroglio. Is this entity a highlight or the downfall of this site. I would tend to think one of the highlights.
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Highlight. I'm not a paying member because right now that would be too frivolous an expenditure for my taught budget. Maybe later. Scott
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:52:48 AM EDT
No mas. I started working three months ago, and I've coughed over too much money to the NRA, NR, tuition, drinking, etc, etc. Plus, I don't own an AR-15(for legal reasons), and need to save up so I can find a less socialist place to live.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:55:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:59:44 AM EDT
I can't charge my membership dues on my ATF expense account.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:05:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 8:06:04 AM EDT by s0ulzer0]
I'm still "testing" out the site. Plus, I blow all my money on crack. [:D] Really, if it were $30 per year more people would join, more money would be made. Ya know - 3 folks join at $60, but 15 join at $30... Then all the "locks" and bad blood....makes it hard to feel comfortable sometimes.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:11:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 8:13:06 AM EDT by Chimborazo]
IMO, $5.00 a month is not too steep. s0ulzer0 does have a good point though. Maybe more money would be made if the price was lower. Poll?
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:37:26 AM EDT
Poll! I would definately send $$ in if it were $29.99 a year. $29.99 is a magical price in sales. Anything over this number requires more psychological consideration for some reason. It just FEELS too expensive! BTW - I buy guns I can't afford too.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:45:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 8:48:02 AM EDT by toaster]
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: Everyone, please help if you can. [:)]
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Roughly translated: [b]Pay up you cheap bastards![/b] [:D] -T.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:50:04 AM EDT
i sent in my money by PP a few days ago, havent heard anything
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:50:57 AM EDT
i sent in my money by PP a few days ago,dont lower the price now, havent heard anything yet
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:58:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sukebe: I can't charge my membership dues on my ATF expense account.
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Steal the office coffee money......[:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 8:58:57 AM EDT
FFL+Gunsmith=not much extra money(and yes Im busy). Im still waiting for Stealth to gift me a membership. Maby for christmas! Please! Please!
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:01:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TWIRE: Just curious. I am one of a multitude of Members on this site who have not coughed up the required dollars to be on the Team. I have a lot different reasons. I will list below some of the possible reasons. [red]Mind you these are not MY reasons[/red], just possibilities. 1. Tin foil hat excuses A through M. I can see the media coverage. Your question, Senator. Yes. Citizen X, it has be reported that when you were a gun owner, you contributed some funds to a right wing militia website called AR15.com. Would you comment on the veracity of theses reports? 2. Imbroglio. Is this entity a highlight or the downfall of this site. I would tend to think one of the highlights. 3. Too many fundamentalists. I can't join because I don't have Bible program installed on my computer. 4. Too many atheists. Who are these godless heathens anyway? 5. I'm too lazy. If I actually paid money, I might feel compelled use the site. 6. I don't have a cool enough picture for my sig. Besides I don't know how photoshop anyway. 7. They left my state off of the hometown section...the bastards. 8. I don't watch sh*t like The Sopranos. 9. I get tired of the semi-daily "Hit it?" post. There are a lot better sites for girly pics. 10. I don't own an AR15. Like I said, possible reasons. Feel free to post your own, members. Just trying to stir things up a bit. Have an AR15 kind of day. [:D]
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So what ARE your reasons......
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:06:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 9:11:24 AM EDT by HKgnnr]
I didnt become a 'member' for quite a time, because money really was an issue. I know that having $60 in my pocket to go towards some other 'banned' part for another gun took priority over dontating to the site (yes, I'm honest and selfish at times) [;)] However, I've been a part of the AR15.com community since its early days, the days when the board was 1/10th of what it is today. But I did feel obligated to support the site that kept me up many a night, allowed me to meet some wonderful people and find some great deals. Yes, it may have taken me nearly 4 years, but I did it - and havent regretted it. This has been my my home away from home and I'll do what I can, when I can to help maintain it as such. Combined with the fact that B&Js in Albany along with Hirams help have certainly made it worthwhile. (HIRAM - SAR-1's buddy - hook us up in Jan.!!!! JoeKens - $270 - 3 or more, and add a little sumptin' sumptin' for yer'self to spend on Dahila!!!!![;)]) But do I think of 'non-members' as any less important to the overall character of this site? Absolutely not. I had my own reasons for not joining as well, with the 'cash in hand' issue being the most important to me - and I'm sure its on the minds of others as well. But I know that if most could, they would....and someday they will. Way I see it, we are one, if not the most powerful internet gun sites on the net by way of numbers - 20K + perhaps? Can I be a mod now? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:08:18 AM EDT
<<<-----{{{ Check it out. Joined last week. [famousjoke] If you gonna be impotent, you gotta look impotent[/famousjoke]. Now if I could figure out a way to get thousands of posts over night everyone would think I'm really smart...Oh'well, back to the "I'd hit it" posts [:D]...All kidding a side, if you have the money to help out this site, then join. If you don't, then don't. I read a thread a while back. Some of the other paid members where trying to get (badger) people to join. The "Mod's" stepped in and told them to knock-it-off, it is not mandatory to join!... My kind of people. Do what feels right for you, I did.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:12:05 AM EDT
I finally sold enough bodily fluids to get an XBox. Only a few more squirts and needles and I will be on the team.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:16:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 9:17:55 AM EDT by Kaoma]
4. Too many atheists. Who are these godless heathens anyway?
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One here. For your knowledge freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:18:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 9:19:18 AM EDT by Philadelphia_GunMan]
My reasons for not joining : 1 I find it extremely hard to believe that with all the people that visit this site it doesn't make enough money from selling the banner ads to pay for itself. Something doesn't seem right here. There aren't any other discussion boards that are asking for money. 2 As Torf and others have said $60 is too much. If it was $30 I probably would of joined by now. To me, if I'm gonna spend $60 I'm thinking hey for a little more I could buy one more glock mag. Especially considering that other boards don't ask for ANYTHING. I think $60 is way to much to ask for. Edited for spelling.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:25:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:27:17 AM EDT
Just seeing how everything is here before I contribute. Until then, shelling out the money to RKBA groups... I am starting to think that the blitz's from this site have more effect than the NRA... maybe if this site offered the firearms insurance of the NRA? One thing I have learned is there is no reasonable gun control... you are either pro or anti.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:29:23 AM EDT
My reasons are wholly finacial. Or lack thereof. [:(] Everybody else seems to want a bigger and bigger part of my paycheck and leaves me with less and less. [:(!] Hint: you don't really want to get me started. Really.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:33:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: So what ARE your reasons......
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Too many libertarians...kidding. I would say utter laziness and cheapness would be the overriding reasons. I would like to support the site and a Team label was on my New Year's resolution list. As for MY list of possible reasons for not joining, the references to fundamentalists, atheists and "hit it" posts rank as my major annoyances. I have no wish to be the thought police or to limit topics discussed here, but there are probably better forums in which to discuss/argue/leer at those topics. There's always some battle raging here between the saved and the godless. And always the girly pics.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:37:15 AM EDT
1. I can't stand Paypal, and don't seem to find the time to go by the post office. 2. I'd join if it was a little less since I don't need the email service. 3. Still somewhat undecided about joining. 4. Waiting until the new year.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:39:15 AM EDT
I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:41:26 AM EDT
There's no "I" in "Team". [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:44:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WolfAR15: I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes]
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Hey, at least these guys don't call you begging for spending money! BTW: Fuck the NRA [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 9:59:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TWIRE: ..."hit it" posts rank as my major annoyances.... And always the girly pics.
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So, you are saying you would NOT hit it?
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 10:05:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Badseed:
Originally Posted By WolfAR15: I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes]
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Hey, at least these guys don't call you begging for spending money! BTW: Fuck the NRA [:D]
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Actually Ive NEVER gotten a call from them. And yeah I hate the way the nra is but you could say that im "riding" their benefits for the fun of it. [}:D] ID HIT IT B4 THE LOCK [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 10:11:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mcnielsen: So, you are saying you would NOT hit it?
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Your implication is not appreciated. The point, other than the one on your head, is that if I want a site full of girly pics, I'll go to HitThis.com or dirtyf*ck.com and not patrol AR15.com for a few sloppy seconds of titillation. I don't even read those posts, gets stale quick. Have a strickly heterosexual day.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 10:30:46 AM EDT
If some of the paying people are going to whine and bitch because they notice the others who did not pay I suggest that they do not renew their $60 "account".
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 10:42:45 AM EDT
1) Why buy the cow...? 2) $60 is too much. If it were $60 to join or nothing - I'd pass altogether. arf.com is a nifty little waste of time. 3) How much of that $5k/mo goes to hosted images and Dengerate^H^H^H^H^H^H^ General Discussion?
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:02:14 AM EDT
60 bucks a year is simply too steep for an avatar and an email address I wouldn't use. I know it would support the site and everything, but 60 bucks a YEAR is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:03:58 AM EDT
I agree that $60 is a bit much (I'd join right now if it were $30, $60 will wait until after the holidays, and the lifetime membership offer from hoplite must wait until I'm seriously drunk) But, ORM-D, the GD is a big part of ARFCOM. Other, "gun-only" forums are slow because, well, you can only go through so many "which gun should I buy", "9mm vs .45", etc, etc, before it gets stale. We're a community - with shared interests. And the fact that the board is lively means that when you do need advice about guns (or women, or dinner, or cars, or whatever), there's actually ppl here to answer your questions!
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:24:50 AM EDT
Think of all the information you've learned on this board. Most likely it's saved you at least $60. If you think that $60 is making the Staff and Moderators rich just ask to borrow the company Yugo. I heard that Beekeeper always leaves it with a empty tank of gas the cheap bastard. Maybe he should have spent his $60 on fuel[:\]??? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:43:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Philadelphia_GunMan: My reasons for not joining : 1 I find it extremely hard to believe that with all the people that visit this site it doesn't make enough money from selling the banner ads to pay for itself. Something doesn't seem right here. There aren't any other discussion boards that are asking for money.
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There aren't any boards with this kind of depth, and # of users either...
2 As Torf and others have said $60 is too much. [red]If it was $30 I probably would of joined by now.[/red] To me, if I'm gonna spend $60 I'm thinking hey for a little more I could buy one more glock mag. Especially considering that other boards don't ask for ANYTHING. I think $60 is way to much to ask for. Edited for spelling.
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You may get the opportunity to prove that statement true or false in the near future....
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:44:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: There's no "I" in "Team". [:D]
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There's no "U" in "Team", either. Ha!
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:46:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 11:47:15 AM EDT by Badseed]
If the Yugo is a cabriolet, I'm in! [newbie] edit: that newb anim is kinda trippy...
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:50:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:54:13 AM EDT
As soon as my Christmas Bonus comes in I plan on joining. It is the least I can do support our cause and this great site. Nowhere else on the web ( that I've been to ) can you find a group of people dedicated to educating the public about the media's misrepresentation of firearms. Even if I wasn't a constant reader and poster here, it would be well worth the $60 to give newbies a place to learn and anti's a place to be converted. - Nw -
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 11:58:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Originally Posted By mcnielsen: So, you are saying you would NOT hit it?
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Your implication is not appreciated. The point, other than the one on your head, is that if I want a site full of girly pics, I'll go to HitThis.com or dirtyf*ck.com and not patrol AR15.com for a few sloppy seconds of titillation. I don't even read those posts, gets stale quick. Have a strickly heterosexual day.
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These posts strike me the same way Twire. I just pass 'em by. Now the GOD topics...what can I say, I'm IN!! [:D] Plus, there's a LOT more to the site than just GD forum. I've saved many times the cost of membership on good deals over in EE...
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 12:07:31 PM EDT
I'm moving to another state in January. As soon as I'm settled and have a new e-mail, my money's on the way...
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 12:17:03 PM EDT
Well for some of you that say that $60 is too steep, you'll be in luck. There are some new things coming down the line after the first of the year, including a scaled back basic membership. So start saving your pennies now.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 12:33:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 12:50:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER: Well for some of you that say that $60 is too steep, you'll be in luck. There are some new things coming down the line after the first of the year, including a scaled back basic membership. So start saving your pennies now.
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That would be great! What comes with the po'boy membership?
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 1:34:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2002 1:35:42 PM EDT by GoatBoy]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 2:34:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: Here's a quick summary of what is coming... [b]Team Bronze[/b] - Basic Membership! $20 / Year My Active Topics Search Archive Server Spell Check Sig Pic Team Forum Discounts Give-Aways
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That's perfect for me! I'm sold! "early 2003" - So by Feb-March it will be ready?
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 2:42:31 PM EDT
Bronze...Gold...Platinum... What account level keeps your threads from getting locked? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 2:52:24 PM EDT
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