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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:33:50 AM EDT
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You'll never make moderator with that attitude mister.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:41:19 AM EDT
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1. Tin foil hat excuses A through M. I can see the media coverage. Your question, Senator. Yes. Citizen X, it has be reported that when you were a gun owner, you contributed some funds to a right wing militia website called AR15.com. Would you comment on the veracity of theses reports? No threat of me going into public office. Too much other crap under the rug to worry about an "alledged" membership to AR15.com 6. I don't have a cool enough picture for my sig. Besides I don't know how photoshop anyway. Working on that. 7. They left my state off of the hometown section...the bastards. Lumped in with MA, etc. Not too happy about that. 9. I get tired of the semi-daily "Hit it?" post. There are a lot better sites for girly pics. The Internet - It's not just for porn! 10. I don't own an AR15. I don't. The Colt AR15 is a banned firearm in my home state, the same home state as Colt. I own a Colt HBar. I will join and my money will go out right after Christmas! -934 |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:48:06 AM EDT
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2. Imbroglio. Is this entity a highlight or the downfall of this site. I would tend to think one of the highlights. Highlight. I'm not a paying member because right now that would be too frivolous an expenditure for my taught budget. Maybe later. Scott |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:52:48 AM EDT
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No mas. I started working three months ago, and I've coughed over too much money to the NRA, NR, tuition, drinking, etc, etc.
Plus, I don't own an AR-15(for legal reasons), and need to save up so I can find a less socialist place to live. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:55:21 AM EDT
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There will be increased opportunities/options beginning in Jan., 2003. This is quite exciting and will help to take [i]some[/i] of the burden off of GoatBoy. Everyone, please help if you can. [:)]
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Posted: 12/16/2002 7:59:44 AM EDT
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I can't charge my membership dues on my ATF expense account.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:05:38 AM EDT
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I'm still "testing" out the site.
Plus, I blow all my money on crack. [:D] Really, if it were $30 per year more people would join, more money would be made. Ya know - 3 folks join at $60, but 15 join at $30... Then all the "locks" and bad blood....makes it hard to feel comfortable sometimes. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:11:17 AM EDT
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IMO, $5.00 a month is not too steep.
s0ulzer0 does have a good point though. Maybe more money would be made if the price was lower. Poll? |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:37:26 AM EDT
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Poll! I would definately send $$ in if it were $29.99 a year.
$29.99 is a magical price in sales. Anything over this number requires more psychological consideration for some reason. It just FEELS too expensive! BTW - I buy guns I can't afford too. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:45:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Everyone, please help if you can. [:)] Roughly translated: [b]Pay up you cheap bastards![/b] [:D] -T. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:50:04 AM EDT
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i sent in my money by PP a few days ago, havent heard anything
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:50:57 AM EDT
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i sent in my money by PP a few days ago,dont lower the price now, havent heard anything yet
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:58:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: I can't charge my membership dues on my ATF expense account. Steal the office coffee money......[:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 8:58:57 AM EDT
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FFL+Gunsmith=not much extra money(and yes Im busy).
Im still waiting for Stealth to gift me a membership. Maby for christmas! Please! Please! |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:01:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just curious. I am one of a multitude of Members on this site who have not coughed up the required dollars to be on the Team. I have a lot different reasons. I will list below some of the possible reasons. [red]Mind you these are not MY reasons[/red], just possibilities. 1. Tin foil hat excuses A through M. I can see the media coverage. Your question, Senator. Yes. Citizen X, it has be reported that when you were a gun owner, you contributed some funds to a right wing militia website called AR15.com. Would you comment on the veracity of theses reports? 2. Imbroglio. Is this entity a highlight or the downfall of this site. I would tend to think one of the highlights. 3. Too many fundamentalists. I can't join because I don't have Bible program installed on my computer. 4. Too many atheists. Who are these godless heathens anyway? 5. I'm too lazy. If I actually paid money, I might feel compelled use the site. 6. I don't have a cool enough picture for my sig. Besides I don't know how photoshop anyway. 7. They left my state off of the hometown section...the bastards. 8. I don't watch sh*t like The Sopranos. 9. I get tired of the semi-daily "Hit it?" post. There are a lot better sites for girly pics. 10. I don't own an AR15. Like I said, possible reasons. Feel free to post your own, members. Just trying to stir things up a bit. Have an AR15 kind of day. [:D] So what ARE your reasons...... |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:06:40 AM EDT
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I didnt become a 'member' for quite a time, because money really was an issue. I know that having $60 in my pocket to go towards some other 'banned' part for another gun took priority over dontating to the site (yes, I'm honest and selfish at times) [;)]
However, I've been a part of the AR15.com community since its early days, the days when the board was 1/10th of what it is today. But I did feel obligated to support the site that kept me up many a night, allowed me to meet some wonderful people and find some great deals. Yes, it may have taken me nearly 4 years, but I did it - and havent regretted it. This has been my my home away from home and I'll do what I can, when I can to help maintain it as such. Combined with the fact that B&Js in Albany along with Hirams help have certainly made it worthwhile. (HIRAM - SAR-1's buddy - hook us up in Jan.!!!! JoeKens - $270 - 3 or more, and add a little sumptin' sumptin' for yer'self to spend on Dahila!!!!![;)]) But do I think of 'non-members' as any less important to the overall character of this site? Absolutely not. I had my own reasons for not joining as well, with the 'cash in hand' issue being the most important to me - and I'm sure its on the minds of others as well. But I know that if most could, they would....and someday they will. Way I see it, we are one, if not the most powerful internet gun sites on the net by way of numbers - 20K + perhaps? Can I be a mod now? [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:08:18 AM EDT
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<<<-----{{{ Check it out. Joined last week. [famousjoke] If you gonna be impotent, you gotta look impotent[/famousjoke]. Now if I could figure out a way to get thousands of posts over night everyone would think I'm really smart...Oh'well, back to the "I'd hit it" posts [:D]...All kidding a side, if you have the money to help out this site, then join. If you don't, then don't. I read a thread a while back. Some of the other paid members where trying to get (badger) people to join. The "Mod's" stepped in and told them to knock-it-off, it is not mandatory to join!... My kind of people. Do what feels right for you, I did.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:12:05 AM EDT
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I finally sold enough bodily fluids to get an XBox. Only a few more squirts and needles and I will be on the team.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:16:30 AM EDT
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4. Too many atheists. Who are these godless heathens anyway? One here. For your knowledge freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:18:08 AM EDT
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My reasons for not joining :
1 I find it extremely hard to believe that with all the people that visit this site it doesn't make enough money from selling the banner ads to pay for itself. Something doesn't seem right here. There aren't any other discussion boards that are asking for money. 2 As Torf and others have said $60 is too much. If it was $30 I probably would of joined by now. To me, if I'm gonna spend $60 I'm thinking hey for a little more I could buy one more glock mag. Especially considering that other boards don't ask for ANYTHING. I think $60 is way to much to ask for. Edited for spelling. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:25:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: All kidding a side, if you have the money to help out this site, then join. If you don't, then don't. I read a thread a while back. Some of the other paid members where trying to get (badger) people to join. The "Mod's" stepped in and told them to knock-it-off, it is not mandatory to join!... My kind of people. Do what feels right for you, I did. Thank you, Zoomer, and the others, for helping out. I did not see the thread you refer to here, but this type of thing should [b]never[/b] happen. [u]Every Member is vitally important to the site and a non-paying member is no less valuable[/u]. One fact remains though--it costs over five grand a month for this place to exist. Someone has to pay it. Check out the advertising rates, do a little math, and you will see that we all need to chip in if possible. Those with thousands of posts should have no problem kicking in five bucks a month to cover their bandwidth use. It's easy to gain enough info. and good deals here to be worth many times sixty bucks a year. For sure, this is a "community" or "family" and we all need to contribute, in any way possible, including financially. [b]This is the best place on the web.[/b] [:)] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:27:17 AM EDT
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Just seeing how everything is here before I contribute. Until then, shelling out the money to RKBA groups... I am starting to think that the blitz's from this site have more effect than the NRA... maybe if this site offered the firearms insurance of the NRA? One thing I have learned is there is no reasonable gun control... you are either pro or anti.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:29:23 AM EDT
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My reasons are wholly finacial. Or lack thereof. [:(] Everybody else seems to want a bigger and bigger part of my paycheck and leaves me with less and less. [:(!]
Hint: you don't really want to get me started. Really. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:33:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: So what ARE your reasons...... Too many libertarians...kidding. I would say utter laziness and cheapness would be the overriding reasons. I would like to support the site and a Team label was on my New Year's resolution list. As for MY list of possible reasons for not joining, the references to fundamentalists, atheists and "hit it" posts rank as my major annoyances. I have no wish to be the thought police or to limit topics discussed here, but there are probably better forums in which to discuss/argue/leer at those topics. There's always some battle raging here between the saved and the godless. And always the girly pics. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:37:15 AM EDT
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1. I can't stand Paypal, and don't seem to find the time to go by the post office.
2. I'd join if it was a little less since I don't need the email service. 3. Still somewhat undecided about joining. 4. Waiting until the new year. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:39:15 AM EDT
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I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes]
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:41:26 AM EDT
[#27]
There's no "I" in "Team". [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:44:37 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes] Hey, at least these guys don't call you begging for spending money! BTW: Fuck the NRA [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 9:59:33 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: ..."hit it" posts rank as my major annoyances.... And always the girly pics. So, you are saying you would NOT hit it? |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 10:05:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Quoted: I paid $70 for THREE YEARS of membership to the NRA. I get a magazine and a bunch of other cool stuff like discounts at gunstores, hotels ect ect. And you want me to pay $60 for ONE YEAR of membership on arfcom where I get a cool email account, a pic album and the use of an extra forum? get real. [rolleyes] Hey, at least these guys don't call you begging for spending money! BTW: Fuck the NRA [:D] Actually Ive NEVER gotten a call from them. And yeah I hate the way the nra is but you could say that im "riding" their benefits for the fun of it. [}:D] ID HIT IT B4 THE LOCK [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 10:11:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: So, you are saying you would NOT hit it? Your implication is not appreciated. The point, other than the one on your head, is that if I want a site full of girly pics, I'll go to HitThis.com or dirtyf*ck.com and not patrol AR15.com for a few sloppy seconds of titillation. I don't even read those posts, gets stale quick. Have a strickly heterosexual day. |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 10:30:46 AM EDT
[#32]
If some of the paying people are going to whine and bitch because they notice the others who did not pay I suggest that they do not renew their $60 "account".
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Posted: 12/16/2002 10:42:45 AM EDT
[#33]
1) Why buy the cow...?
2) $60 is too much. If it were $60 to join or nothing - I'd pass altogether. arf.com is a nifty little waste of time. 3) How much of that $5k/mo goes to hosted images and Dengerate^H^H^H^H^H^H^ General Discussion? |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:02:14 AM EDT
[#34]
60 bucks a year is simply too steep for an avatar and an email address I wouldn't use. I know it would support the site and everything, but 60 bucks a YEAR is ridiculous.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:03:58 AM EDT
[#35]
I agree that $60 is a bit much (I'd join right now if it were $30, $60 will wait until after the holidays, and the lifetime membership offer from hoplite must wait until I'm seriously drunk)
But, ORM-D, the GD is a big part of ARFCOM. Other, "gun-only" forums are slow because, well, you can only go through so many "which gun should I buy", "9mm vs .45", etc, etc, before it gets stale. We're a community - with shared interests. And the fact that the board is lively means that when you do need advice about guns (or women, or dinner, or cars, or whatever), there's actually ppl here to answer your questions! |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:24:50 AM EDT
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Think of all the information you've learned on this board. Most likely it's saved you at least $60.
If you think that $60 is making the Staff and Moderators rich just ask to borrow the company Yugo. I heard that Beekeeper always leaves it with a empty tank of gas the cheap bastard. Maybe he should have spent his $60 on fuel[:\]??? [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:43:10 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: My reasons for not joining : 1 I find it extremely hard to believe that with all the people that visit this site it doesn't make enough money from selling the banner ads to pay for itself. Something doesn't seem right here. There aren't any other discussion boards that are asking for money. There aren't any boards with this kind of depth, and # of users either... 2 As Torf and others have said $60 is too much. [red]If it was $30 I probably would of joined by now.[/red] To me, if I'm gonna spend $60 I'm thinking hey for a little more I could buy one more glock mag. Especially considering that other boards don't ask for ANYTHING. I think $60 is way to much to ask for. Edited for spelling. You may get the opportunity to prove that statement true or false in the near future.... |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:44:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: There's no "I" in "Team". [:D] There's no "U" in "Team", either. Ha! |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:46:14 AM EDT
[#39]
If the Yugo is a cabriolet, I'm in! [newbie]
edit: that newb anim is kinda trippy... |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:50:16 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: Quoted: So, you are saying you would NOT hit it? Your implication is not appreciated. The point, other than the one on your head, is that if I want a site full of girly pics, I'll go to HitThis.com or dirtyf*ck.com and not patrol AR15.com for a few sloppy seconds of titillation. I don't even read those posts, gets stale quick. Have a strickly heterosexual day. Twire, it was a joke. A stale one, no doubt, but a joke. Nudity is not allowed here, directly or via link. For those who don't care for the content of the GD, why not stay on the technical side of the Board, or even the GFD. This is [i]GENERAL[/i] Discussion, for crying out loud. Pay to be here, or not, you're all valuable, and each one of us are what make this BB unique and special. Naked80, you suck!! [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:54:13 AM EDT
[#41]
As soon as my Christmas Bonus comes in I plan on joining. It is the least I can do support our cause and this great site. Nowhere else on the web ( that I've been to ) can you find a group of people dedicated to educating the public about the media's misrepresentation of firearms. Even if I wasn't a constant reader and poster here, it would be well worth the $60 to give newbies a place to learn and anti's a place to be converted.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 11:58:52 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: Quoted: So, you are saying you would NOT hit it? Your implication is not appreciated. The point, other than the one on your head, is that if I want a site full of girly pics, I'll go to HitThis.com or dirtyf*ck.com and not patrol AR15.com for a few sloppy seconds of titillation. I don't even read those posts, gets stale quick. Have a strickly heterosexual day. These posts strike me the same way Twire. I just pass 'em by. Now the GOD topics...what can I say, I'm IN!! [:D] Plus, there's a LOT more to the site than just GD forum. I've saved many times the cost of membership on good deals over in EE... |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 12:07:31 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm moving to another state in January.
As soon as I'm settled and have a new e-mail, my money's on the way... |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 12:17:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Well for some of you that say that $60 is too steep, you'll be in luck. There are some new things coming down the line after the first of the year, including a scaled back basic membership. So start saving your pennies now.
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Posted: 12/16/2002 12:33:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Well for some of you that say that $60 is too steep, you'll be in luck. There are some new things coming down the line after the first of the year, including a scaled back basic membership. So start saving your pennies now. You mean new excuses for not joining will be necessary? The horror!! [:O] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 12:50:12 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: Well for some of you that say that $60 is too steep, you'll be in luck. There are some new things coming down the line after the first of the year, including a scaled back basic membership. So start saving your pennies now. That would be great! What comes with the po'boy membership? |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 1:34:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: That would be great! What comes with the po'boy membership? Heehee, we should name things like this... "PO'Boy Member" - "Wife Let Me Join Member" - "I Spend WAY Too Much Time On The Site Member" [=D] On a serious note, memberships are not required, they're not formally requested, it's one of those things that you can choose to do or not. A few sites are run from company resources due to low BW usage or real lucky circumstances. With the amount of BW we use, we're just lucky people are willing to host PARTS of the site. Many of these "other" sites also charge more for advertising fees to cover expenses and have seen the membership success here and are starting to follow. It takes a lot of cash to run a site that's popular. Check BW costs alone and get back to me. [=)] As this new year approaches, there will be new offerings for everyone. There have been a number of rising costs, from simple services we take for granted (like spellchecking), to needs for more bandwidth, to software and hardware. Everything seems to continue to grow, which is good! With growth comes a larger financial obligation as resources are strained and improvements needed. The base "guest" account will see some changes, and because of this we're creating options which will hopefully satisfy everyone. It's been no secret that searching has been a pain and at the same time it's the most resource intensive portion of the site. Most website out there "clean" their data and files in order to continue to run smoothly. We have stored EVERYTHING. (Ok, not the nasty Scat posts...) Here's a quick summary of what is coming... [b]Team Bronze[/b] - Basic Membership! $20 / Year My Active Topics Search Archive Server Spell Check Sig Pic Team Forum Discounts Give-Aways [b]Team Gold[/b] - Current Membership! $60 / Year All of the above [b]PLUS[/b] Mail (10MB) Photo Hosting (10MB) Bonus Entry for Give-Aways [b]Team Platinum[/b] - Upgrade in disk space! $100 / Year All of the above [b]PLUS[/b] Mail (50MB) Photo Hosting (50MB) Third Entry for Give-Aways As you can see, search will no longer be a free service for guests, but will be available for the Bronze members. I'll also be working on the Archive Server which will have an extended search capability so that finding old information will be simple. (This should be completed early in 2003!) Guests will continue to be able to use the site, list items for sale, buy items, surf the web content, and otherwise enjoy things. I hope this helps clarify what is coming and how we're hoping to manage growing costs. A side project for 2003 will also be to setup mirror sites. We're hoping that by doing so, we will be able to cut some costs and be able to do more for everyone in 2004! [i]Last thing! We will soon be accepting CreditCards directly. We're currently finalizing things with the bank and processing company. My goal is to move away from paypal as much as possible.[/i] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 2:34:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: Here's a quick summary of what is coming... [b]Team Bronze[/b] - Basic Membership! $20 / Year My Active Topics Search Archive Server Spell Check Sig Pic Team Forum Discounts Give-Aways That's perfect for me! I'm sold! "early 2003" - So by Feb-March it will be ready? |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 2:42:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Bronze...Gold...Platinum...
What account level keeps your threads from getting locked? [:D] |
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Posted: 12/16/2002 2:52:24 PM EDT
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I plan on it as soon as I recover a little from the Christmas season. This site has easliy saved me $60 on rifle purchases, mags and ammo. If not directly from the EE, the information I've gathered from the great people here helped me avoid getting it in the ass when I buy guns. Maybe that didn't sound so good. Anyway, hopefully when I get paid next month GB will get my $60.
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