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2/15/2014 6:05:45 PM EDT
Looks like Fusion reactors might not be all that far away after all.



http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/12/nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-green-energy-source




US researchers have achieved a world first in an ambitious experiment
that aims to recreate the conditions at the heart of the sun and pave
the way for nuclear fusion reactors.



The scientists generated more energy
from fusion reactions than they put into the nuclear fuel, in a small
but crucial step along the road to harnessing fusion power. The ultimate
goal – to produce more energy than the whole experiment consumes –
remains a long way off, but the feat has nonetheless raised hopes that
after decades of setbacks, firm progress is finally being made.
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2/15/2014 6:09:13 PM EDT
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...
2/15/2014 6:11:03 PM EDT
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...
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Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".



 
2/15/2014 6:11:07 PM EDT
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Maybe in my lifetime, I will see cheap energy for all.
2/15/2014 6:11:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Having a physics degree, I think this is cool shit.
2/15/2014 6:12:48 PM EDT
[#5]
To bad funding will be cut to fund the next round of social entitlements.
2/15/2014 6:13:32 PM EDT
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Despite my username, I'm sort of a big nerd/geek myself. ]



So yeah, this shit really interests me.



 
2/15/2014 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".
 
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...

Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".
 


Fusion produces radiation, depending on what you are fusing.


I think the concept of pulsed/diesel fusion warrants more research. Trying to sustain a continuous reaction is more challenging.
2/15/2014 6:15:38 PM EDT
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I want a Mr Fusion. Especially if I could rig it up to feed from my garbage disposal.

Kharn
2/15/2014 6:16:42 PM EDT
[#9]
We had that shit in Utah 35 years ago.  

Anyone wanna buy my tonnage of Paladium
2/15/2014 6:17:31 PM EDT
[#10]
LFTR
2/15/2014 6:18:58 PM EDT
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...


Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".

 




Fusion produces radiation, depending on what you are fusing.


I'm referring to spent fuel and such.



 
2/15/2014 6:20:07 PM EDT
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The progressive liberals don't want Americans to have access to cheap energy.

They use the cost and availability of energy as a choke point to control the people in the same manner that third world dictators utilize the food supply.
2/15/2014 6:21:44 PM EDT
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Yep. This is still the most viable answer.
2/15/2014 6:22:48 PM EDT
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I'm referring to spent fuel and such.
 
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...

Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".
 


Fusion produces radiation, depending on what you are fusing.

I'm referring to spent fuel and such.
 


True enough. But depending on what your fuel is, contamination of equipment, handling requirements, shielding and disposal of incidental/equipment nuclear waste still exists. Especially once prolonged reactor operation becomes possible.

The problem with spent fuel in fission power is that, like retards, we don't recycle it.
2/15/2014 6:24:55 PM EDT
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Yep. This is still the most viable answer.


For now, but if we can get fusion to come of age. It will be better in every way than fission reactors.



 
2/15/2014 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Energy is already cheap. What fusion technology means is that the solar system is opened up.



 
2/15/2014 6:31:33 PM EDT
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2/15/2014 6:32:54 PM EDT
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Nuclear fusion wouldn't work out for liberals.

They need the Carbon Exchange to transfer money and redistribute to their buddies. Solar and wind can't generate enough profit on their own so they get their exchange and commissions with redistribution of wealth to boot.  Fusion would screw all of that up.
2/15/2014 6:33:00 PM EDT
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So magnets are good for something after all.. huh.
2/15/2014 6:34:43 PM EDT
[#20]
I hope I am alive to see the fruition of this amazing science.
It will truly change the world.
2/15/2014 6:35:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Cool.

We just nearly had a breakthrough in nuclear fission nearby

oops
2/15/2014 6:36:41 PM EDT
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People have asked me, "Hey, you got a degree in science, should we really be eating food from the microwave with all that radiation that goes in it?"

I tell them no.
2/15/2014 6:37:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Great, but-

The scientists have not generated more energy than the experiment uses in total.
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2/15/2014 6:37:45 PM EDT
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Energy is already cheap. What fusion technology means is that the solar system is opened up.


 



It'll at least shut up the liberals about using less electricity or turning down the thermostat.



Wait. What the fuck am I thinking? They'll find something to hate about it.





 
2/15/2014 6:38:16 PM EDT
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If you give me sub-cent per KWH electricity, I can turn soil into plasma and separate out the base elements.  Most mining for common elements will be obsolete.

I can also de-salinate sea water and make all the deserts bloom.
2/15/2014 6:39:06 PM EDT
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Fusion power would cut the nuts off of the Green movement.  We would be living in a post-scarcity society.
2/15/2014 6:41:55 PM EDT
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California ... figures.
2/15/2014 6:42:17 PM EDT
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Though slight, the advance is welcome news for the NIF scientists. In 2012, the project was restructured and given more modest goals after six years of failure to generate more energy than the experiment consumes, known as "ignition".
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Problem: Experiments are unsuccessful.

Solution: Lower the bar on what you define as "success".
2/15/2014 6:52:15 PM EDT
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It'll at least shut up the liberals about using less electricity or turning down the thermostat.



Wait. What the fuck am I thinking? They'll find something to hate about it.

 
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Energy is already cheap. What fusion technology means is that the solar system is opened up.

 


It'll at least shut up the liberals about using less electricity or turning down the thermostat.



Wait. What the fuck am I thinking? They'll find something to hate about it.

 
Hydrogen and helium are the new greenhous gases.



 
2/15/2014 6:56:05 PM EDT
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True enough. But depending on what your fuel is, contamination of equipment, handling requirements, shielding and disposal of incidental/equipment nuclear waste still exists. Especially once prolonged reactor operation becomes possible.

The problem with spent fuel in fission power is that, like retards, we don't recycle it.
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Yup.  People bitch and whine about how long controlled fusion has been researched with "no results" not realizing that the gains in run time have been exponential...

Much more power producing and without the libtard's "scary radiation".
 


Fusion produces radiation, depending on what you are fusing.

I'm referring to spent fuel and such.
 


True enough. But depending on what your fuel is, contamination of equipment, handling requirements, shielding and disposal of incidental/equipment nuclear waste still exists. Especially once prolonged reactor operation becomes possible.

The problem with spent fuel in fission power is that, like retards, we don't recycle it.


You can blame Liberal Environmental Wacko's for that.
2/15/2014 6:58:16 PM EDT
[#31]
I want two, running off my holding tank.  

With over 3 million horsepower. (2x1.21GW)
The old girl can spin any set of out drives I want to put on her.
2/15/2014 7:02:03 PM EDT
[#32]
science fucking rulez!
2/15/2014 7:04:09 PM EDT
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Problem: Experiments are unsuccessful.

Solution: Lower the bar on what you define as "success".
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Though slight, the advance is welcome news for the NIF scientists. In 2012, the project was restructured and given more modest goals after six years of failure to generate more energy than the experiment consumes, known as "ignition".


Problem: Experiments are unsuccessful.

Solution: Lower the bar on what you define as "success".




This is exactly what the article says, for those who take the time to read it.

A lot of people got caught up in the headline hype and wishful thinking.

AIV, they are far, far away.  The headline is a deceiving.  Read the article.
2/15/2014 7:04:46 PM EDT
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Know how I know that you watch Star Trek?  
2/15/2014 7:06:31 PM EDT
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Usually only Obama math gets more out than goes in
2/15/2014 7:07:02 PM EDT
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Too bad they won't have a say in the matter.  All it would take is someone giving away free energy like this to stimulate or subsidize the economy with energy.
Even if it was for just enough time to defeat the communist.

Think about it, most of the cost increase in raw materials and food has been due to the increase in energy costs.
Whoever harnesses cheap reliable and safe nuclear energy will upset that system.
2/15/2014 7:08:08 PM EDT
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Isn't this also the answer to the impending helium shortage?
2/15/2014 7:08:48 PM EDT
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If this technology ever becomes viable as an energy alternative, we will no doubt hear a chorus of fear mongering from the crazy environmentalists.
2/15/2014 7:09:56 PM EDT
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This is exactly what the article says, for those who take the time to read it.

A lot of people got caught up in the headline hype and wishful thinking.

AIV, they are far, far away.  The headline is a deceiving.  Read the article.
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Though slight, the advance is welcome news for the NIF scientists. In 2012, the project was restructured and given more modest goals after six years of failure to generate more energy than the experiment consumes, known as "ignition".


Problem: Experiments are unsuccessful.

Solution: Lower the bar on what you define as "success".




This is exactly what the article says, for those who take the time to read it.

A lot of people got caught up in the headline hype and wishful thinking.

AIV, they are far, far away.  The headline is a deceiving.  Read the article.

Don't you know, reading is for faggots!

I'm glad I'm not the only key who caught the bit quoted above.

ETA: when this tech becomes successful, I'll gladly quit my job and go back to school for a fourth time to be a part of it.
2/15/2014 7:20:05 PM EDT
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Yeah.  Shame the intellectual powerhouses like Oklahoma and Arkansas aren't churning out the theoretical physics work like they used to.  
2/15/2014 7:26:56 PM EDT
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Soon.................

2/15/2014 7:29:14 PM EDT
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This is exactly what the article says, for those who take the time to read it.





A lot of people got caught up in the headline hype and wishful thinking.





AIV, they are far, far away.  The headline is a deceiving.  Read the article.
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Though slight, the advance is welcome news for the NIF scientists. In 2012, the project was restructured and given more modest goals after six years of failure to generate more energy than the experiment consumes, known as "ignition".






Problem: Experiments are unsuccessful.





Solution: Lower the bar on what you define as "success".

This is exactly what the article says, for those who take the time to read it.





A lot of people got caught up in the headline hype and wishful thinking.





AIV, they are far, far away.  The headline is a deceiving.  Read the article.



One step closer.



Futurescape had a pretty neat show where they talked alittle bit about this technology.





 
2/15/2014 7:31:09 PM EDT
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Oh good lord no.  I spend enough on guns right now.  I'm gonna have to get at least two more credit cards if Mechs become readily available.

On the flipside, I guess if I had a Mech, my bills would not really be a worry.
2/15/2014 7:31:34 PM EDT
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Cheap? Nah, too much money to be made.

You are working for the man, when fusion hits, it'll be for some other man.
2/15/2014 7:32:21 PM EDT
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Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.
2/15/2014 7:33:00 PM EDT
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...and oil companies?
2/15/2014 7:34:36 PM EDT
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Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.
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To bad funding will be cut to fund the next round of social entitlements.


Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.



Wow, really.    Nice troll, or really ignant,  hopefully, youse about to get schooled.
2/15/2014 7:35:30 PM EDT
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Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.
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To bad funding will be cut to fund the next round of social entitlements.


Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.

Wrong

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_budget_pie_chart

BTW...part of pensions are entitlements...
2/15/2014 7:37:14 PM EDT
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Wow, really.    Nice troll, or really ignant,  hopefully, youse about to get schooled.
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To bad funding will be cut to fund the next round of social entitlements.


Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.



Wow, really.    Nice troll, or really ignant,  hopefully, youse about to get schooled.


Crap, I looked at a 2010 fed budget pie chart.

I was wrong, I honestly thought the numbers were lower
2/15/2014 7:39:01 PM EDT
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Wrong

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_budget_pie_chart

BTW...part of pensions are entitlements...
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To bad funding will be cut to fund the next round of social entitlements.


Social entitlements (although annoying) is a drop in the bucket compared to our military spending.

Wrong

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_budget_pie_chart

BTW...part of pensions are entitlements...


so, if I pay into my pension and into social security that's entitlement?

I don't think so, but welfare is only 2% under military spending.

So, I was technically correct but I was not aware the number for welfare was that high.
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