Posted: 1/21/2014 8:51:25 AM EDT
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Need suggestions for a resort in the Poconos for my wife & I's anniversary.
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago.
It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. |
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Not in the Poconos, but I *HIGHLY* recommend these guys:
Pintail Point |
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. Concur 100%. |
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. Concur 100%. I still own a home there in Pocono Pines and I don't dare leave about an eight mile radius. We're surrounded by state game lands, Bethlehem Water Auth. land , Pocono Lake Preserve land and people with money making it the last nice area. It makes a nice little bubble and there are two communities there that are ranked in the top 99 in the US. The rest is pure shit. The resorts, the ones that somehow are still open are all run down. My whole family carries 100% of the time. That is the rule, no exceptions. |
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. That sucks :( We live in North VA, maybe we can find something similar in West VA or MD? |
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Go west of the Alleghenies young man.
The NE corridor locusts destroyed the Poconos http://www.nemacolin.com/ |
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Go west of the Alleghenys young man. The NE corridor locusts destroyed the Poconos http://www.nemacolin.com/ We call them "Mupfers"...as in.... "I'm mup for da weekend" Or, "I'm mup for da summa" 
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I still own a home there in Pocono Pines and I don't dare leave about an eight mile radius. We're surrounded by state game lands, Bethlehem Water Auth. land , Pocono Lake Preserve land and people with money making it the last nice area. It makes a nice little bubble and there are two communities there that are ranked in the top 99 in the US. The rest is pure shit. The resorts, the ones that somehow are still open are all run down. My whole family carries 100% of the time. That is the rule, no exceptions. Quoted:
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. Concur 100%. I still own a home there in Pocono Pines and I don't dare leave about an eight mile radius. We're surrounded by state game lands, Bethlehem Water Auth. land , Pocono Lake Preserve land and people with money making it the last nice area. It makes a nice little bubble and there are two communities there that are ranked in the top 99 in the US. The rest is pure shit. The resorts, the ones that somehow are still open are all run down. My whole family carries 100% of the time. That is the rule, no exceptions. What exactly is so bad? I'm just curious, as my wife and I have been looking at the possibility of buying an investment property to rent out/vacation in/possibly retire in around the White Haven area. I've visited up there a couple times and love the area, but missed a lot of the negative aspects you're referring to. I'm not saying you're wrong as you obviously know better, but I'm curious about the details. |
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. PA checking it to confirm this. Sad but true. |
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That sucks :( We live in North VA, maybe we can find something similar in West VA or MD? Quoted:
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. That sucks :( We live in North VA, maybe we can find something similar in West VA or MD? The Omni Homestead is in Hot Springs VA WV has some state run resorts that are fair to good, then there is the Greebrier in White Sulphur if you want to go old time refinement. |
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Wow, I had no idea. That the place is such a shithole, that is. Pocono Raceway is on my bucket list... maybe I'll re-think that one a little Pocono Raceway abuts the Beth Water Auth land and the Tunkhannock Sportsman's land and is on the edge of the bubble. EZ on and off from the interstate and doesn't really take you near all the developments, you are good to go for a day trip. |
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We call them "Mupfers"...as in.... "I'm mup for da weekend" Or, "I'm mup for da summa"
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Go west of the Alleghenys young man. The NE corridor locusts destroyed the Poconos http://www.nemacolin.com/ We call them "Mupfers"...as in.... "I'm mup for da weekend" Or, "I'm mup for da summa"
dats funny 
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The Omni Homestead is in Hot Springs VA WV has some state run resorts that are fair to good, then there is the Greebrier in White Sulphur if you want to go old time refinement. Quoted:
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. That sucks :( We live in North VA, maybe we can find something similar in West VA or MD? The Omni Homestead is in Hot Springs VA WV has some state run resorts that are fair to good, then there is the Greebrier in White Sulphur if you want to go old time refinement. Came here to suggest this, is there a particular draw for the Pocono's? |
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What exactly is so bad? I'm just curious, as my wife and I have been looking at the possibility of buying an investment property to rent out/vacation in/possibly retire in around the White Haven area. I've visited up there a couple times and love the area, but missed a lot of the negative aspects you're referring to. I'm not saying you're wrong as you obviously know better, but I'm curious about the details. White haven is just outside the major Pocono area really, if you stay west of there, you are generally good yet. But....The shit is creeping into Luzerne County and points west of Blakeslee. Once again, there's a big barrier in Jack Frost Mountain and Blue Ridge's land which I used to run for them. The gorge and Hickory Run is nice until you get back east by Towamensing Trails which has been inhabited by the criminals and trash from NY/NJ. Seriously, I would write off anything east of Williamsport. It's too far for them to travel. Never...ever buy anything in a reasonable driving distance from metro NY/NJ. That's where the state gets nice again. I am friends with many judges, police and good ol local folks who keep me up to date. I travel back there often, but the reasons I have listed are the reasons why I got out. It used to be awesome. All one has to do is check out census and the crime stats for Monroe County if you don't believe me. Look at what came in and what they are doing. It started going downhill in 1986. The last good year. |
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Small world. 
I helped build a bunch of homes there in the late 80's. I also concur on your statement of what the Pocono's have become. Quoted:
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I still own a home there in Pocono Pines Small world.
I helped build a bunch of homes there in the late 80's. I also concur on your statement of what the Pocono's have become. I'm in Lake Naomi so you know why I keep the home.
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I'm in Lake Naomi so you know why I keep the home.
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I still own a home there in Pocono Pines Small world.
I helped build a bunch of homes there in the late 80's. I also concur on your statement of what the Pocono's have become. I'm in Lake Naomi so you know why I keep the home.
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Quoted: I'm in Lake Naomi so you know why I keep the home. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I still own a home there in Pocono Pines Small world. I helped build a bunch of homes there in the late 80's. I also concur on your statement of what the Pocono's have become. I'm in Lake Naomi so you know why I keep the home. |
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Jim Thorpe is nice. We rented one of the old town houses on Race Street. It wasn't the best choice for having a toddler. There wasn't a yard and the house had a lot of very steep stairs. My wife was paranoid to the point of distraction because she was afraid Der Poopenfuhrer was going to go into the street or fall down the stairs.
We hiked Glen Onoko, rode the Lehigh Gorge trail, fished and hiked in Hickory Run, swam at Mauch Chunk Lake, fished and hiked at Beltzville, toured the mansion, rode the train, ate at the restaurants. It was a pretty good time. |
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PA checking it to confirm this. Sad but true. Quoted:
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. PA checking it to confirm this. Sad but true. confirmed all the gated communities are filled with NYC NJ FSA's and drug dealers. |
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Jim Thorpe is nice. We rented one of the old town houses on Race Street. It wasn't the best choice for having a toddler. There wasn't a yard and the house had a lot of very steep stairs. My wife was paranoid to the point of distraction because she was afraid Der Poopenfuhrer was going to go into the street or fall down the stairs. We hiked Glen Onoko, rode the Lehigh Gorge trail, fished and hiked in Hickory Run, swam at Mauch Chunk Lake, fished and hiked at Beltzville, toured the mansion, rode the train, ate at the restaurants. It was a pretty good time. i live outside of him thorpe way better in carbon county vs Monroe county |
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Jim Thorpe is nice. We rented one of the old town houses on Race Street. It wasn't the best choice for having a toddler. There wasn't a yard and the house had a lot of very steep stairs. My wife was paranoid to the point of distraction because she was afraid Der Poopenfuhrer was going to go into the street or fall down the stairs. We hiked Glen Onoko, rode the Lehigh Gorge trail, fished and hiked in Hickory Run, swam at Mauch Chunk Lake, fished and hiked at Beltzville, toured the mansion, rode the train, ate at the restaurants. It was a pretty good time. That area is far enough outside the "mountain easy accesibility off of Rt 80 areas of Mt. Pocono/Pocono Summit/Stroudsburg/Tannersville" to still be nice. I know many who have moved to the Poconos 20 years ago and have never been to Jim Thorpe, Glen Onoko and especially Mauch Chunk lake. Beltsville is starting to get trashed though. Jim Thorpe is a great little town. great hiking, awesome fishing and excellent bike riding. The rule of thumb for the Poconos is this.... It's all about logistics and a direct route from the plague that is NY/NJ. If it can be reached by getting off and exit ramp off of 80 or 380, it's not remotely worth going to. This also explains why some of the outlying areas are still somewhat nice. For example, Jim Thorpe. It is spared for now, but at the top of the hill is Towamensing trails and that is horrible. Ask the people in Jim Thorpe what they think of their new inhabitants at the northern part of the school district. |
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There are plenty of nice places to stay in the Poconos.
If you like to gamble, make sure you check out: http://mountairycasino.com/ If your wife likes Cheesecake, make sure you stop at: http://www.poconocheesecake.com/ If your wife likes to shop, make sure you take her to: http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=59 If you need to stock up on ammo while you're in PA, this is close to where you'll be staying at (Stroudsburg Store): http://www.dunkelbergers.com/inner.cfm?siteId=454&itemCategory=45087&priorId=42971 |
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Pocono Raceway abuts the Beth Water Auth land and the Tunkhannock Sportsman's land and is on the edge of the bubble. EZ on and off from the interstate and doesn't really take you near all the developments, you are good to go for a day trip. Quoted:
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Wow, I had no idea. That the place is such a shithole, that is. Pocono Raceway is on my bucket list... maybe I'll re-think that one a little Pocono Raceway abuts the Beth Water Auth land and the Tunkhannock Sportsman's land and is on the edge of the bubble. EZ on and off from the interstate and doesn't really take you near all the developments, you are good to go for a day trip. Cool, I was hoping someone with knowledge of the area would keep my hopes up 
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Last time I was there we stayed here.
http://www.splitrockresort.com/ It was gated and we didn't really spend much time off the property, but didn't have any issues. Carried the whole time. |
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What exactly is so bad? I'm just curious, as my wife and I have been looking at the possibility of buying an investment property to rent out/vacation in/possibly retire in around the White Haven area. I've visited up there a couple times and love the area, but missed a lot of the negative aspects you're referring to. I'm not saying you're wrong as you obviously know better, but I'm curious about the details. White haven is just outside the major Pocono area really, if you stay west of there, you are generally good yet. But....The shit is creeping into Luzerne County and points west of Blakeslee. Once again, there's a big barrier in Jack Frost Mountain and Blue Ridge's land which I used to run for them. The gorge and Hickory Run is nice until you get back east by Towamensing Trails which has been inhabited by the criminals and trash from NY/NJ. Seriously, I would write off anything east of Williamsport. It's too far for them to travel. Never...ever buy anything in a reasonable driving distance from metro NY/NJ. That's where the state gets nice again. I am friends with many judges, police and good ol local folks who keep me up to date. I travel back there often, but the reasons I have listed are the reasons why I got out. It used to be awesome. All one has to do is check out census and the crime stats for Monroe County if you don't believe me. Look at what came in and what they are doing. It started going downhill in 1986. The last good year. That makes me feel better. We're staying west of 476. |
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Last time I was there we stayed here. http://www.splitrockresort.com/ It was gated and we didn't really spend much time off the property, but didn't have any issues. Carried the whole time. Split Rock is pretty cool, except for the timesharing that Kalins decided to do. It used to be owned by Lehigh Coal and Navigation Co. as a resort for their execs and cabins (behind the original lodge are roads that take you back into a small development. Some of the original cabinsa re still there and in use as cute little homes, check it out). It's a neat little history which is now Blue Ridge who I worked for. It sits in the middle of the areas of Big Boulder and Jack Frost which Blue Ridge owns. Blue ridge up until the late 90's owned the 35,000 acres around it which kept it somewhat nice. They have sold off a lot since, but Split Rock is generally good to go. As long as you stay around SR (between the gates) and Jack Frost, you could have a good time. Do not venture east of Blakeslee or outside of Hickory Run by Big Boulder. |
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i used to live in mt pocono years ago and its a shithole now. i live outside of scranton in the country and its a nice area. jim thorpe is nice but you should check out the wineries at the finger lakes <------- Laughs at your country 30 years ago we used to hunt in Lords Valley. Tons of deer. Didn't see much in that area for vacationing. I would lean towards a cabin in the Pigeon Forge / Gatlinburg Tn. area. |
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Quoted: The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. |
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The resort industry in the Poconos is long dead. They killed the goose that laid that golden egg 20 years ago. It's now a filthy suburb of NYC and metro NJ with all the crime as a little bonus thrown in. Those people destroyed what we had there. Sure it has lots of trees and some pretty hills, but it's all traffic jams and trash along side the roads. Seriously. Not so sure about this. The Poconos has the Crossings (shopping), Camelback (skiing / waterpark), Great Wolf (waterpark), Mt Airy (gambling), Pocono Raceway, The Chateau, Skytop. There's a decent amount to do in Tannersville.... Stroudsburg, Tobyhanna, and East Stroudsburg are kind of lame. |
| i have a house in the arrowhead lake community in pocono lake and we have no problems at all in our community. i have also been in the split rock community and have never had any problems. i would just look for a rental house in one of those communities if you are interested in the poconos. jim thorpe and lehighton are about a half hour away. jack frost and big boulder are 10 minutes away. |
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Wow, I had no idea. That the place is such a shithole, that is. Pocono Raceway is on my bucket list... maybe I'll re-think that one a little Pocono Raceway is over towards White Haven and is out of the cross-border slummery taking place over in Mt Pocono and down in Stroudsburg. Basically if you're too close to I-80 as it comes across the Delaware River, you get the riff-raff and Stroudsburg being the first few exits gets a lot of the trash. Mt Pocono is at the top of the climb up from the river to the Pocono Plateau and being the first exit there gets it a big delivery of trash. Big Boulder and Jack Frost are also over in the area of Pocono Raceway, which puts them way from the douchery as well. |
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Maybe Uncle Lou's place, Mt Ariary. But the Ponocos around Penn Estates, Bushkill could benfit from a bombing run. True dat. Ol' Louie and his boys would put an old fashioned Mafiosi "solution to the problem" on anyone who tried to pull crap on customers at Mt Airey Lodge. |
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What no more Mt. Airy Lodge for lovers or is that also bed bug central from the metro sleaze. Mt Airy Lodge is now a (reputedly) mob-run casino and resort. Haven't stayed there, but the wife's bank does a lot of business with them. The wife and I did a weekend at Skytop Lodge a few years ago. Nice old-style place (wear a jacket for dinner) with its own golf course and other activities. |