Posted: 1/15/2014 4:31:56 PM EDT
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Officer Wilburn is seen running to the vehicle and not maintaining distance or taking the time a reasonable officer would while approaching a vehicle with armed suspects. Officer Wilburn approached the vehicle alone after two other officers began to chase the driver of the suspect vehicle on foot. Officer Wilburn approached the vehicle without proper cover or with her weapon at the ready position. A reasonable officer in fear for their safety would not have approached a vehicle containing possible armed suspects in this manner. Officer Wilburn opened the driver's side door of the still moving vehicle, observed Mr. Kelvion Walker in the passenger seat and immediately drew and fired her weapon. As she approached the passenger door where Mr. Walker was seated, she exposed herself to a possibly armed suspect, an action which a reasonable officer in fear for their safety would not have done. Officer Wilburn dropped her weapon in the car before running to the passenger side. In the video, a second officer is seen reaching into the vehicle, removing Officer Wilburn's gun and handing it to her over the roof of the car.  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97b_1389825768 |
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. |
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That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Meh. Tie goes to the runner when the officer exhibits that level of stupidity. |
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". |
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Quoted: Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". Quoted: Quoted: Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". I would assume that most of us here understand how a gun is fired. But for you and anyone else who does not understand how a gun operates, yes, the gun was fired by mistake when the officer unintentionally pulled the trigger. |
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I would assume that most of us here understand how a gun is fired. So, yes, the gun was fired by mistake when the officer unintentionally pulled the trigger. Quoted:
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". I would assume that most of us here understand how a gun is fired. So, yes, the gun was fired by mistake when the officer unintentionally pulled the trigger. Yes, but the whole "the gun went off" thing is a peeve, I admit. 
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Quoted: Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile With what time would any of these raise you hand's commands be given, and allow time for the shooting given the timing of the video? She ran up to what she thought was a car that was only occupied by the driver to throw it in park, and got surprised by the passenger being there. Even she knew she fucked up, by her body language immediately after the shooting. |
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looking at her body language, I would say she didnt know there was someone else in the car. The when she realized it, she panicked, drew, had a ND. She then dropped her gun as she tried to reholster.
My guess is she wasn't very comfortable with her own gun handling skills. I don't know what she saw in the car, so I can say whether or not the shoot was justified. |
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Quoted: In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". Quoted: Quoted: Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe6Wp9fASrI |
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. Probably a 1911 |
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Come on man you can say it, they all know..... She messed up! With what time would any of these raise you hand's commands be given, and allow time for the shooting given the timing of the video? She ran up to what she thought was a car that was only occupied by the driver to throw it in park, and got surprised by the passenger being there. Even she knew she fucked up, by her body language immediately after the shooting. Quoted:
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That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile With what time would any of these raise you hand's commands be given, and allow time for the shooting given the timing of the video? She ran up to what she thought was a car that was only occupied by the driver to throw it in park, and got surprised by the passenger being there. Even she knew she fucked up, by her body language immediately after the shooting. The problem with that scenario is that she knew it was occupied by more than the driver. From the link: All radio transmissions indicated that the suspect vehicle was occupied by multiple individuals. Officer Wilburn transmitted over the radio she had observed multiple suspects passing her location and these suspects matched the description given by fellow officers.
At no time after the vehicle was located did officers lose sight of the vehicle, nor broadcast that any suspect had exited the vehicle until another officer reported that the driver of the vehicle fled on foot. The video shows Officer Wilburn did not conduct a felony "high risk" traffic stop to clear or challenge the vehicle, which reportedly contained multiple suspects who were possibly armed. |
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. That's what I thought |
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Yes, but the whole "the gun went off" thing is a peeve, I admit. Quoted:
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. In other words, "she pulled the trigger by mistake". I would assume that most of us here understand how a gun is fired. So, yes, the gun was fired by mistake when the officer unintentionally pulled the trigger. Yes, but the whole "the gun went off" thing is a peeve, I admit. Yeah,that always grinds my gears too. |
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I've read the story before but, that is the first time I have seen the video.
What a dumb bitch. She went charging over there to stop the car from tapping into the house at 2 MPH. Let it fucking ruin the flowerbed in front of the house and then clear the car. Not difficult. She was acting almost as dumb as that soldier lobbing 40mm 6" over his buddies heads. Surely, there must be a way to test or prepare people so their brains don't ooze out of their ears when things get sporty, or you can avoid hiring them at least. |
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Yep. Bum rushing the car was the first mistake. Quoted:
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Looks like an ND to me. Startle reflex. Yep. Bum rushing the car was the first mistake. The problem I have with her firing when startled is that her pistol was in it's holster when she leaned into the car the first time. She then stood up, drew her weapon, leaned back in and fired. |
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The problem I have with her firing when startled is that her pistol was in it's holster when she leaned into the car the first time. She then stood up, drew her weapon, leaned back in and fired. Quoted:
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Looks like an ND to me. Startle reflex. Yep. Bum rushing the car was the first mistake. The problem I have with her firing when startled is that her pistol was in it's holster when she leaned into the car the first time. She then stood up, drew her weapon, leaned back in and fired. I think she got up to the car to deal with it assuming the passenger bailed with the driver, got the door open, saw him, realized she didn't have her gun out, panicked, grabbed at and yanked the trigger |
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The problem I have with her firing when startled is that her pistol was in it's holster when she leaned into the car the first time. She then stood up, drew her weapon, leaned back in and fired. Quoted:
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Looks like an ND to me. Startle reflex. Yep. Bum rushing the car was the first mistake. The problem I have with her firing when startled is that her pistol was in it's holster when she leaned into the car the first time. She then stood up, drew her weapon, leaned back in and fired. It was a derp fest, not a reflex. I've seen people go into this sort of mode. They just do the stupidest shit, seemingly with no control of themselves. |
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The case is at the Dallas County DA's Office to be presented to a grand jury. Quoted:
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She got shitcanned over that. But not sent to jail. Not a bad deal! The case is at the Dallas County DA's Office to be presented to a grand jury. Wanna place a bet on the outcome? |
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Yeah, but ya'll are, you know, Yankees!  Quoted:
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What else is pathetic is that she isn't a rookie- she is a Corporal. You should of seen some of our Lieutenants and above.  Yeah, but ya'll are, you know, Yankees! Yeah your Texas LEOs have been batting a thousand lately. 
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Maybe the tech boys enhanced the video too, if the video shows this kids hands up she was fucked. Quoted:
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That reads like a bag of smashed assholes. I'm not taking sides, but who is the witness that observed all of this? Were they inside the vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did you watch the dashcam video? Yes. I'd like to know who the witness was that saw the shooting victim keep his hands raised the whole time. While she may be a complete idiot, it doesn't necessarily mean the shooting wasn't justified. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Agreed. They do state there is a witness, though, so it doesn't sound like it's from the video that they are getting the information from. |
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Yeah your Texas LEOs have been batting a thousand lately. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146991/2842345-the-anal-probe-was-this-big.jpg Quoted:
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What else is pathetic is that she isn't a rookie- she is a Corporal. You should of seen some of our Lieutenants and above. Yeah, but ya'll are, you know, Yankees! Yeah your Texas LEOs have been batting a thousand lately. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146991/2842345-the-anal-probe-was-this-big.jpg There is a reason I am an ex-cop and not a retired cop. |
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There is a reason I am an ex-cop and not a retired cop. Quoted:
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What else is pathetic is that she isn't a rookie- she is a Corporal. You should of seen some of our Lieutenants and above. Yeah, but ya'll are, you know, Yankees! Yeah your Texas LEOs have been batting a thousand lately. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146991/2842345-the-anal-probe-was-this-big.jpg There is a reason I am an ex-cop and not a retired cop. 
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. ... I hope this entire post is dripping with sarcasm... and that is the assumption I am rolling with. |
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I know exactly where this is. A few months ago I was looking at buying a bunch of those complexes for an investment. It's a class "A"shithole. I don't mind being a slum lord, but those would never had paid off. The apts are literally falling apart.
All that aside, glad cop got fired and is being charged. I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but she shows she should not be handling weapons when after shooting she drops her gun into the vehicle. She fucked up big time and my money is she's an idiot and reckless and has a history of doing stupid reckless shit, and it finally caught up with her. It'll be interesting to see how the Grand Jury rules this. |
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Judging just by what I saw in the video, it appears the officer did not intend to shoot the suspect. It looked to me like she was surprised that there was some one in the passenger seat, drew her weapon and intended to just point it at him when the gun went off by mistake. That's exactly what I thought. |