[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CSB fail PD (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/9/2014 6:11:09 AM EDT
So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though |
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Most cops don't get paid to sit at the station and wait for calls. They're expected to go out and patrol. What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. |
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Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm in the city limits for Christ sake... So? I can go by my local station and probably see a dozen or more cars in the lot. That's because they have more cars than officers working the shift. Those cars are for the next shift to hop into. Also, alarm calls are very low priority for most agencies for the very situation you just found yourself in - 98% or more are false alarms and responding to them is a waste of resources. |
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Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm practically in your back yard... There typically are some extra cars around because not everybody works 24/7. There usually aren't any patrolmen on station in most places. They're out on, well, patrol. Probably handling someone else who also doesn't know how to use an alarm. |
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Quoted: There typically are some extra cars around because not everybody works 24/7. There usually aren't any patrolmen on station in most places. They're out on, well, patrol. Probably handling someone else who also doesn't know how to use an alarm. Quoted: Quoted: Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm practically in your back yard... There typically are some extra cars around because not everybody works 24/7. There usually aren't any patrolmen on station in most places. They're out on, well, patrol. Probably handling someone else who also doesn't know how to use an alarm. |
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Ok I lolled. I I'm not a cop. I just figured it would be a good idea to have one patrol car or group or whatever to be at the station for the close stuff. And have it rotate.. Hell. Might be a nice way to catch up on paperwork... Quoted:
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Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm practically in your back yard... There typically are some extra cars around because not everybody works 24/7. There usually aren't any patrolmen on station in most places. They're out on, well, patrol. Probably handling someone else who also doesn't know how to use an alarm. Tough to catch up on paperwork when the calls never stop. An alarm, other than a robbery alarm at a bank or stop-n-rob, gets preempted by most other calls. 
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What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Quoted:
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Most cops don't get paid to sit at the station and wait for calls. They're expected to go out and patrol. What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. 
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| So your upset about police response time to a false alarm that you caused by accident? When did the alarm company call the cops? That may be part of the delay. Your "emergency" competes with other calls for service for priority response. Hate to break it to you, but residential alarms have a history of being false alarms in my area at least. So the people that call in and actually explain what their emergency is may very well need an officer before an alarm with no other information. I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. |
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though 10 minutes? That would be a great response time around here for an alarm. When my parent's alarm went off the PD showed up 90 minutes later. It's not a priority call. Quoted:
I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. After three we wouldn't respond for the next 6 months. |
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So? I can go by my local station and probably see a dozen or more cars in the lot. That's because they have more cars than officers working the shift. Those cars are for the next shift to hop into. Also, alarm calls are very low priority for most agencies for the very situation you just found yourself in - 98% or more are false alarms and responding to them is a waste of resources. Quoted:
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Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm in the city limits for Christ sake... So? I can go by my local station and probably see a dozen or more cars in the lot. That's because they have more cars than officers working the shift. Those cars are for the next shift to hop into. Also, alarm calls are very low priority for most agencies for the very situation you just found yourself in - 98% or more are false alarms and responding to them is a waste of resources. Exactly. |
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I've worked alarm response on the private side. It's usually 10 minutes before the alarm company dispatches anyone. Most alarms here except panics and banks get taken by he private side. So you are looking at 10 minutes to dispatch and another 10 to respond. Kinda sucks but that's the way it is. Most alarms aren't code responses anyways so it will take some time.
Quit your bitchin. You'd probably be whining for the response bill on a false alarm if they had showed up just the nature of the business
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though 
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What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Quoted:
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Most cops don't get paid to sit at the station and wait for calls. They're expected to go out and patrol. What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Lolol!! |
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10 minutes? That would be a great response time around here for an alarm. When my parent's alarm went off the PD showed up 90 minutes later. It's not a priority call. After three we wouldn't respond for the next 6 months. Quoted:
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though 10 minutes? That would be a great response time around here for an alarm. When my parent's alarm went off the PD showed up 90 minutes later. It's not a priority call. Quoted:
I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. After three we wouldn't respond for the next 6 months. 
Back home you're often looking at 2-3 hours before a cop is able to swing by (that's Sheriff's Office response time, I can't speak to the city and village agencies' response times). That's assuming that they make it same-day. |
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To Serve and Protect (the State). Nothing in there is about serving, protecting, or anything about citizens. Quoted:
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They would be there in plenty of time to clean up the mess and write a report.  To Serve and Protect (the State). Nothing in there is about serving, protecting, or anything about citizens. In where? |
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Quoted: So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though So maybe they were six minutes in the other direction from your house. |
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What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Quoted:
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Most cops don't get paid to sit at the station and wait for calls. They're expected to go out and patrol. What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Dude. Where do I send the bill for screwing up my laptop keyboard, the screen seems to be ok after wiping it down. hahah |
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Quoted: So your upset about police response time to a false alarm that you caused by accident? When did the alarm company call the cops? That may be part of the delay. Your "emergency" competes with other calls for service for priority response. Hate to break it to you, but residential alarms have a history of being false alarms in my area at least. So the people that call in and actually explain what their emergency is may very well need an officer before an alarm with no other information. I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. |
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So your upset about police response time to a false alarm that you caused by accident? When did the alarm company call the cops? That may be part of the delay. Your "emergency" competes with other calls for service for priority response. Hate to break it to you, but residential alarms have a history of being false alarms in my area at least. So the people that call in and actually explain what their emergency is may very well need an officer before an alarm with no other information. I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. We have that here. It think it's either after the 2nd or 3rd false call, the city will start to bill you. I think $25 per call. |
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What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Quoted:
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Most cops don't get paid to sit at the station and wait for calls. They're expected to go out and patrol. What about the guy on his way home who was buying some twinkies for his pregnant wife? Boom. Next thing you know, Nakatomi Plaza and welcome to the party pal. Then years later he meets boring guys who ask him the ingredients in Twinkies. 
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though Well friend. Feel free to start applying, go through a process, go to the academy, strap on some Kevlar and a duty belt and show them how it's done. Since I'm betting you could provide much better service than they are apparently doing. You can be the top dog at responding to residential alarms. Go on now those apps aren't going to fill themselves out. Better get an accountant while you're at it, cause you'll need someone to manage all the money you are going to make at your new job! |
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We got in trouble if we hung out at the stationhouse. Quoted:
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I just figured it would be a good idea to have one patrol car or group or whatever to be at the station for the close stuff. We got in trouble if we hung out at the stationhouse. This is why shortly after patrol cars were invented, they invented the donut shop. 
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Quoted: Well friend. Feel free to start applying, go through a process, go to the academy, strap on some Kevlar and a duty belt and show them how it's done. Since I'm betting you could provide much better service than they are apparently doing. You can be the top dog at responding to residential alarms. Go on now those apps aren't going to fill themselves out. Better get an accountant while you're at it, cause you'll need someone to manage all the money you are going to make at your new job! Quoted: Quoted: So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though Well friend. Feel free to start applying, go through a process, go to the academy, strap on some Kevlar and a duty belt and show them how it's done. Since I'm betting you could provide much better service than they are apparently doing. You can be the top dog at responding to residential alarms. Go on now those apps aren't going to fill themselves out. Better get an accountant while you're at it, cause you'll need someone to manage all the money you are going to make at your new job! |
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Not upset. Amused. Mainly because if alarms work as described here. They are fucking useless. I would be dead before the call ever got placed. My parents are getting up there. I just am concerned for them is all. My mom has a ccw but when they get home all the guns to into the bedroom which is the absolute furthest part of the house. With multiple entry points in between. My dad is a pussy with little or no interest in becoming an armed citizen. I'm kind of a 180. My guns follow me around the house even if they are not on my person (a 45 is kinda hard to iwb in boxers) and any time after about 7 if I don't know your coming the iron gets skinned any time there is a knock. At least until I know who it is. Quoted:
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So your upset about police response time to a false alarm that you caused by accident? When did the alarm company call the cops? That may be part of the delay. Your "emergency" competes with other calls for service for priority response. Hate to break it to you, but residential alarms have a history of being false alarms in my area at least. So the people that call in and actually explain what their emergency is may very well need an officer before an alarm with no other information. I am not for this, but there are some cities that have ordinances that say after X number of false alarms the resident is charged for responses to further false alarms. My experience only: Alarms are often a false sense of security. They usually generate a high number of false alarms compared to actual real alarm activations. So it's not unusual here to see alarm companies hold alarms for X amount of time to give the end user a chance to notify the company if it was a false alarm. Some of the false alarms I've seen are caused by: Play/misalignment between contacts on doors (wind, vibration/change in pressure sets them off), interiour motion sensors are crap unless you live in a sterile environment with no pets or interiors objects that will move around with the HVAC kicking on and off (freaking balloons are a great example) and improper use/arming/disarming of the alarm system. The alarm company in turn has to walk the fine line of providing a service to a customer, with notifying the local authorities that they have a alarm activation that they request the agency to respond to. As others have mentioned, too many false alarms can sometimes lead to problems for the account holder or even the alarm company. |
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Quoted: It's your job to protect your family, not the PD's. Quoted: Quoted: Mainly conserved for aging parents who put way to much trust in alarm systems. It's your job to protect your family, not the PD's. |
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We got in trouble if we hung out at the stationhouse. Quoted:
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I just figured it would be a good idea to have one patrol car or group or whatever to be at the station for the close stuff. We got in trouble if we hung out at the stationhouse. Yep, just a place to piss, take a dump or file a quick report. |
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Awe how cute. He mad.. Like I said later if you bother to read the rest. Mainly conserved for aging parents who put way to much trust in alarm systems. But u go right ahead. Internet anger looks good on you.. I promise Quoted:
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though Well friend. Feel free to start applying, go through a process, go to the academy, strap on some Kevlar and a duty belt and show them how it's done. Since I'm betting you could provide much better service than they are apparently doing. You can be the top dog at responding to residential alarms. Go on now those apps aren't going to fill themselves out. Better get an accountant while you're at it, cause you'll need someone to manage all the money you are going to make at your new job! I'm sorry I also don't measure up to your standards as an internet tough guy  I'll work on it.
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So.. Went to parents house. Set off alarm... Call parents get new code... Turn off alarm... Miss alarm company phone call... Call them back... Get put on hold... Get them to call off the cops.... Total time spent between when the cops were sent and when they were called off...10 minutes... We live exactly 2 minutes from a sherif substation and 4 minutes away from the closest police station.... Makes me glad I don't have to rely on them for protection.... Would have been an interesting duty to inform moment though yup, alarm companies are a joke. always laugh my ass off at the commercials. "SOMEONE JUST TRIED TO BREAK IN!" "dont worry, we will send help!"
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Poor alarm setup. No alarm company needed, just program the panel to dial "911" , wait 6 seconds after connect, then hangup. They always roll quick on these. Everyone knows a 911 hangup is never a false call.  LOL, drove 96 miles, the temp was -43 (without windchill), had to drive into another county to get to the call; very remote place. Yup, cold phone lines tripped a false 911 call. No one home. |
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Yep, just a place to piss, take a dump or file a quick report. Quoted:
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I just figured it would be a good idea to have one patrol car or group or whatever to be at the station for the close stuff. We got in trouble if we hung out at the stationhouse. Yep, just a place to piss, take a dump or file a quick report. Yep, and on day shift I avoid it like the event horizon of a black hole. Head shed LOVES calling you in to do things they could've done with a phone call or a walk across the fucking office. |
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Quoted: Ok I lolled. I I'm not a cop. I just figured it would be a good idea to have one patrol car or group or whatever to be at the station for the close stuff. And have it rotate.. Hell. Might be a nice way to catch up on paperwork... Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just to add.. Just drove by the police station... Four cruisers in the lot... I get that they are not paid to sit at the station. But common man... I'm practically in your back yard... There typically are some extra cars around because not everybody works 24/7. There usually aren't any patrolmen on station in most places. They're out on, well, patrol. Probably handling someone else who also doesn't know how to use an alarm. I'm at the office now, typing up requests for warrants. Otherwise, if I'm hanging out at the station, the boss is going to be asking me why I'm not out working. |