[ARCHIVED THREAD] - rounds per rifle (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/30/2013 4:17:14 AM EDT
| if you guys had to say what a good amount of rounds per rifle to have on hand would be?how many rounds do military soldiers keep with them?im trying to figure out if my ammo stache is any where near adequate with 5 rifles to feed during a "need to use em all"scenario. |
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if you guys had to say what a good amount of rounds per rifle to have on hand would be?how many rounds do military soldiers keep with them?im trying to figure out if my ammo stache is any where near adequate with 5 rifles to feed during a "need to use em all"scenario. Basic combat load, i.e. what you carry on your person is 210 rounds of rifle ammo for an infantry soldier. This assumes guaranteed resupply at some point, with infinite amount of ammo behind that. Handgun is usually 30-45 rounds on person. How much do you need to stack? Well, depends on which guns, and what you are doing post SHTF. Bugging in, using guns primarily for hunting and maybe defense if it gets really bad? 1000 rounds per centerfire, 5000 per rimfire should be just fine. Planning on bugging out, or going Red Dawn? 2500-5000 per centerfire rifle, 500-1000 per handgun, and .22 conversion kits if possible with about 10,000 rounds of rimfire total. Training will eat up a lot of ammo, probably more than any actual combat you will face. That is if you plan on keeping your training skills up, or have the means to in a SHTF without drawing unwanted attention. Dry fire is you friend. YMMV |
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Let me also say, that if you plan on sticking with shooting as a hobby, either buy a shit ton of rounds now, or get reloading supplies set up. The price of ammo is not going to go down significantly, barring a major shift in environmental, trade, and economic policies in the US, and will most certainly go up over time.
Buy cheap, stack deep. Edit: On your person, just remember that you have to carry ammo until you shoot it. Weight means a lot when you are walking 10 miles or more in full kit. |
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Soldiers have a supply line. We wont have ammo coming in on the choppa. 2500 minimum per AR/AK should put you into a state of panic for being 'out'. 2500 good rounds. I have issues with what quantity to keep on hand also. If I have to go I can't carry a lot. But If I'm in a defensive set-up I want more. I'm prepared to have 4 extra mags on me. More would have to be kept elsewhere (exactly where I don't know). These guys in the field are in good shape. I'm a 24/7 civilian with a 9-5 job so I'm not as in good as shape as most of you and I do not plan carry a lot of weight. As an individual I do not plan to stand and fight, just get away. |
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It depends on how much you shoot that particular gun. If you're a Fudd, a couple of boxes is more than enough. If you're a range feature and you're always shooting, 25-50k is reasonable for what you shoot a lot.
If you're prepping for long term SHTF and the zombie apocalypse, as much as you can afford, and learn where real bulk is stored. 
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Stacking deep for SHTF is somewhat silly, unless your idea of SHTF is just another panic like we had this year.
Most people, Arfcom members included, are not going to survive their first full combat load if presented with reactive (read: two way range) targets. It doesn't matter if you have 500k rounds in your ammo fort if you don't survive the first volley. |
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Quoted: Stacking deep for SHTF is somewhat silly, unless your idea of SHTF is just another panic like we had this year. Most people, Arfcom members included, are not going to survive their first full combat load if presented with reactive (read: two way range) targets. It doesn't matter if you have 500k rounds in your ammo fort if you don't survive the first volley. Reality. Sad but true... However; survival usually means avoiding 'contact'. |
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It depends on your outlook, your geography, bugin/bugout, and cash situation. 2k each caliber or firearm is sensible for me. I will probably wind up passing ammo along to the kids after I die, and since ammo is never going to get cheaper I can use what I've stashed after I retire and go broke slowly. If the S really does HTF, I don't intend to be the first to die and I know I won't be the last to die. I simply have enough to make things interesting while I wait. |
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What's a guy to do re: ammo when you're up over 50 rifles? Decide what Your go to rifle and pistol is, and concentrate on those. I think 1k rounds per rifle, and 500rd per pistol is the minimum. That would be Your hold and go no lower amount. You would have to buy more to even train. |
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Stacking deep for SHTF is somewhat silly, unless your idea of SHTF is just another panic like we had this year. Most people, Arfcom members included, are not going to survive their first full combat load if presented with reactive (read: two way range) targets. It doesn't matter if you have 500k rounds in your ammo fort if you don't survive the first volley. This. Unless you live out in the boonies, plan on having enough to live on your own, hunt, etc for years in a worse case scenario. Some to trade, etc. If you live in a urban and suburban environment, enough to get you out. A case, 1K rounds is a good number. have enough Magazines for all of it. Buy extra springs, extractors, etc.. or a backup rifle. 2 is 1.. If you could only have 1 weapon; Me.. I would have a semi-auto .308 carbine with 1K rounds already in magazines. Carry 10 and stash 40 mags. |
| Six full mags per rifle for what ever you use plus one in the weapon as a minimum and one ammo can ready to go. Honestly, hoarding ammo because you think you're going to hunker down in your house just isn't going to work. You have to be prepared to be mobile and that includes taking ammo with you but not so much that you don't have room for anything else. |
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Unless you do like the guys over in Syria and do mag dump after mag dump at empty buildings.  Quoted:
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If you outlive a combat load you will be able to find plenty on the ground. Unless you do like the guys over in Syria and do mag dump after mag dump at empty buildings. Oh yeah? I bet those buildings know who the boss is now. |
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Quoted: 200 for a rifle 50 for a pistol more than that and you are fucked anyway. |
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Unless you do like the guys over in Syria and do mag dump after mag dump at empty buildings. Quoted:
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If you outlive a combat load you will be able to find plenty on the ground. Unless you do like the guys over in Syria and do mag dump after mag dump at empty buildings. The Odds are incredibly high that in the US, you will likley never fire off more than a single 30rd magazine in self defense, statistically speaking. (yes, there are rare exceptions, and you are likley to never fire a single shot in SD in your lifetime..) A battlefield is a whole different ballgame. You may be the guy that didn't make it out his front door with his safe queen, or you might be the next Alvin York. |
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The Odds are incredibly high that in the US, you will likley never fire off more than a single 30rd magazine in self defense, statistically speaking. (yes, there are rare exceptions, and you are likley to never fire a single shot in SD in your lifetime..) A battlefield is a whole different ballgame. You may be the guy that didn't make it out his front door with his safe queen, or you might be the next Alvin York. Quoted:
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If you outlive a combat load you will be able to find plenty on the ground. Unless you do like the guys over in Syria and do mag dump after mag dump at empty buildings. The Odds are incredibly high that in the US, you will likley never fire off more than a single 30rd magazine in self defense, statistically speaking. (yes, there are rare exceptions, and you are likley to never fire a single shot in SD in your lifetime..) A battlefield is a whole different ballgame. You may be the guy that didn't make it out his front door with his safe queen, or you might be the next Alvin York. I just read something along those lines the other day for NYS justification to limit mag capacity to 7 and NYC to 5. 
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Reminds me of a time when I was discussing barrel lengths and weights with a guy for long range "sniper rifle" type guns. I had a rifle that grouped well but did not have a heavy barrel. His response was basically "if your day involves firing more than 10 rounds from a bolt action rifle at other people you have a whole lot more to worry about than barrels heating up". Quoted:
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200 for a rifle 50 for a pistol more than that and you are fucked anyway. exactly. Cold bore shot is the only one that really matters (at least thats what I have been told) Personally 1 up 3 carried for an M4 and 1 up and 1 spare for a G19 and I think I could handle anything out there short of overseas battlefield. and the spare for the G19 is simply for malfunctions. I didn't carry any spare mags for my beretta in afghansitan. |
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my min stash per caliber is 2k for rifle. 500 for handguns. that is factory ammo. i generally shoot reloads at the range and i buy when i find deals. i haven't hit my minimum in years. This is a reasonable answer. I think 1000 for rifles and 250 for handguns is a good baseline. |