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12/16/2013 10:00:54 AM EDT
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/national-security-agency-phones-judge-101203.html?hp=f3

 




A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency program which collects information on nearly all telephone calls made to, from or within the United States is likely to be unconstitutional.


U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon found that the program appears to run afoul of the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures. He also said the Justice Department had failed to demonstrate that collecting the so-called metadata had helped to head off terrorist attacks.





Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/national-security-agency-phones-judge-101203.html#ixzz2nfMADdh7
12/16/2013 10:03:43 AM EDT
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Gee... Ya' think?
12/16/2013 10:05:33 AM EDT
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In before the hordes of NSA apologists come in here to tell you what an idiot you are, how it doesn't infringe on your rights, and how it saved us from 20 nukes going off in each major city.
12/16/2013 10:05:40 AM EDT
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So I guess they will no longer be listening in? Yeah riiiiiight.
12/16/2013 10:10:41 AM EDT
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We'll just find out that the judge was just joshing us.
12/16/2013 10:12:12 AM EDT
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"Likely"?



Ya fuckin think?






12/16/2013 10:13:35 AM EDT
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We'll just find out that the judge was just joshing us.


Well, we will after the NSA threatens to release his personal spending habits and his Internet search history to the public.  
12/16/2013 10:21:04 AM EDT
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If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear!!1
12/16/2013 10:23:53 AM EDT
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12/16/2013 10:23:59 AM EDT
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As a Christian conservative- I'm a lot more offended by people spying on me than I am by people beating off to granny porn or smoking pot.  Mr. Federal Judge, tear down this Gestapo.





12/16/2013 10:25:11 AM EDT
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There better be some trials/convictions/jail time for quite a few IF our gov't decides its going to follow the Constitution and call this for what it is.
12/16/2013 10:26:51 AM EDT
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Likely eh... I guess their waiting for the Shaman throw down and read the chicken bones before they finally know.
12/16/2013 10:35:18 AM EDT
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Good.
12/16/2013 10:38:38 AM EDT
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In on 1.
12/16/2013 10:39:11 AM EDT
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So how long before they fall up the stairs and shoot themselves 3 times in the chest to commit suicide?
12/16/2013 10:39:43 AM EDT
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And the NSA doesn't give a shit what the judge says.

12/16/2013 10:40:13 AM EDT
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Bunch of Snowden worshipers.....

Judge is just a commie spy lover.
12/16/2013 10:43:26 AM EDT
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motion stayed, so nothing changes.  pretty sure more than one federal judge will be involved in any policy change.
12/16/2013 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Pull up his porn records, search history and frequented websites, then contact him immediately. I could have sworn we already had this judge under our thumb. Never mind, that was Roberts.
12/16/2013 10:45:36 AM EDT
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This

Like they are just going to close up shop on that program.

Yeah ok
12/16/2013 10:47:04 AM EDT
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12/16/2013 10:47:34 AM EDT
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Just another Stupid ass judge appointed by a Democrat..

Oh wait... A Bush Appointee

hmmm...

Just another child who Doesn't Understand (tm) and wants the Terrorists to win. Stupid ass child should just STFU and let the MEN speak. The Men that keep you safe at night !!!
12/16/2013 10:48:08 AM EDT
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So, is the NSA going to tear down the data center located south of me by 15 miles? No?

By the way, why aren't environmentalists going apeshit over the 19 million gallons of water that place uses DAILY. Screw the NSA!

12/16/2013 10:49:38 AM EDT
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Probably a doper fuck as well maybe even a homosexual



 
12/16/2013 10:50:43 AM EDT
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If I may quote the eminent actor R. Lee Erhmy in his finest role, GySgt Hartman,"Well. No shit?"
12/16/2013 10:52:09 AM EDT
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You must be joshin' me.
12/16/2013 10:52:13 AM EDT
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BWAH HA HA HAH AHH HAAA HAHA AH HAHA!!!!!!!!1!!!ELEVEN!!!1!

That is one giant motherfuggin IF.

Also, not happening.
12/16/2013 10:52:22 AM EDT
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We'll just find out that the judge was just joshing us.

either that or he'll be the only one to die in an airplane crash after mysteriously shooting himself in the back of the head several times
12/16/2013 10:52:43 AM EDT
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Nobody needs a telephone to hunt with, and those laws were written before we had today's high capacity communication devices.
12/16/2013 10:53:00 AM EDT
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Yup, I'm sure it's already offline and all data purged.

Excuse me while I go puke over the balcony.

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12/16/2013 10:56:36 AM EDT
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The sad part of this is even if SCOTUS said it was illegal this government is so corrupt they'd continue to do it anyway.


They wiped their ass with the Constitution a long time ago.
12/16/2013 10:57:27 AM EDT
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"Likely" - That's an interesting choice of words. Either it is or it isn't. Sounds like he is leaving the door open to technically unconstitutional but national security bs so they get a free pass. As Chuck Schumer says "no rights are absolute".
12/16/2013 10:59:55 AM EDT
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In before said Judge gets retired.
12/16/2013 11:04:31 AM EDT
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It's hard to say these days.  The SCOTUS may side with the NSA.  Afterall, the NSA knows what they have been doing in their free time.



 
12/16/2013 11:05:34 AM EDT
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In before the judge's mistress sends a threatening e-mail to a woman who has a friend in the FBI, which causes a scandal which forces him to resign.


Oh wait! They used that one already.
12/16/2013 11:19:51 AM EDT
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Anyone who submits to the authority and accepts the opinions of these bought and paid for government employees is a fool.
12/16/2013 2:48:42 PM EDT
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bumpski
12/16/2013 4:21:56 PM EDT
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I saw this on fox while at my inlaws. Even though there was no action this will guarantee that it goes to SCOTUS... The outcome is probably not be what we want though.
12/16/2013 4:23:14 PM EDT
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Good, lets reel this bitch in a little.
12/16/2013 4:25:19 PM EDT
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Yep.  This child needs a spanking.
12/16/2013 4:28:23 PM EDT
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I thought the secret court ok'd it?
12/16/2013 4:30:11 PM EDT
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And in other news....

Water is wet.

12/19/2013 8:20:39 AM EDT
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"By ruling that two now-outdated Supreme Court cases are no longer controlling, he almost guaranteed that the high court will take this case.

The NSA was emasculated before Judge Leon. Gone were the lies of Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper, who stated under oath that the government does not spy on Americans. Gone was the bravado of NSA boss Gen. Keith Alexander, who claimed initially under oath that his spies stopped 52 terrorist plots and then mysteriously corrected himself and said they really stopped just three, but declined to identify the three. Gone was the if-we-don’t-do-this-we-all-will-die argument. Gone was the if-you-have-nothing-to-hide-you-have-nothing-to-fear nonsense that congressional NSA apologists have advanced."

Judge Leon wrote, “I have serious doubts about the efficacy of the metadata collection program as a means of conducting time-sensitive investigations in cases involving imminent threats of terrorism.”

Judge Leon wrote: “I have little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison, who cautioned us to beware ‘the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power,’ would be aghast.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/18/napolitano-nsa-spies-pick-up-interference-from-the/#ixzz2nwUAzkiJ