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Posted: 11/23/2002 1:08:43 PM EDT
What is Kwanzaa?
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:11:10 PM EDT
[url]http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/[/url]
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:15:29 PM EDT
Okay, what i'm looking for here is an opinionated, biased answer from the members here. Not some racist, liberal propagandist website like the one posted above. [:D]
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:20:09 PM EDT
OK, you asked for it, you got it: Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday for blacks, so they can push it in our faces ("our" being anyone not black) and show that they are different from the rest of us - that they have a distinct and unique culture that we are not included in. The wife thinks it is very anti-semitic because it appears to be a mockery of Hannukah. It appears to be a melange of pseudo-African make-up culture (no one in Africa celibrates this crap). There, how's that?
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:22:27 PM EDT
Thank you. This makes much more sense than that bullshit the website was spewing. [:D]
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:31:56 PM EDT
Well, I tried. All I know about kwanzaa is tha I hear them say, "Joyess Kwanzaa".
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 1:41:09 PM EDT
i probably won't be celebrating it this year, or next, or the one after that, or the one after that....
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:03:15 PM EDT
MY OPINION: Its another made-up holiday from Hallmark, like Mothers/fathers day, Valentines day, ect. It was a way to get the black people to spend more money then they wouold have normally around Christmas. If you look into the "traditions" of Kwanzaa, its like a little bit of everything all rolled up into one (but it does mirror alot of the Jewish Hannukah type things) Last year somebody said that it was an old traditional time of war. Tribes killing killing other Tribes for the several days it was taking place. BUT since they do that EVERYDAY now, they had to do somehting a little more peaceful on these special days. BISHOP
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:06:26 PM EDT
if you go to africa and say "kwanzaa" to someone, they'll throw a spear through your chest
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:09:38 PM EDT
No, greeting card companies didn't come up with Kwanzaa. Some black sociology professor in the 60's came up with it, so blacks could have their own afro-centric sacred holiday instead of Christmas which they adopted from their enslavers.
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:18:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Greywolf2112: OK, you asked for it, you got it: Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday for blacks, so they can push it in our faces ("our" being anyone not black) and show that they are different from the rest of us - that they have a distinct and unique culture that we are not included in. The wife thinks it is very anti-semitic because it appears to be a mockery of Hannukah. It appears to be a melange of pseudo-African make-up culture (no one in Africa celibrates this crap). There, how's that?
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Invented by some college prof as I recall...and your wife is correct.
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:27:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By -UHLEK-: What is Kwanzaa?
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Isn't it a Japanese motorcycle?
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:33:30 PM EDT
I thought it was a type of Physics...[:D] Bradd
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 2:34:11 PM EDT
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I'll post this again at the start of Kwanzaa season next month... Kwanzaa is a wholly and entirely [b]NON[/b]-African holiday made up by a radical Marxist Black separatist "Black Studies Professor" the '70s to compete with Christmas and all Western Civilized holidays. If you go to Africa and say "Kwanzaa" they won't have a CLUE what you're talking about. It is NOT African in origin - it's anti-white, anti-American and most importantly, ANTI-CAPITALIST in origin. It's SUPPOSEDLY based on the Nguzo Saba (seven guiding principles), one for each day of the observance, and is celebrated from December 26th to January 1st. [red][b]* Umoja[/b][/red]: Unity stresses the importance of togetherness for the family and the community, which is reflected in the African saying, "I am We," or "I am because We are."[b] ("We are Borg" = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Kujichagulia[/b][/red]: Self-Determination requires that we define our common interests and make decisions that are in the best interest of our family and community. [b](BULLSH!T - "The needs of the community outweigh the needs of me" = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Ujima[/b][/red]: Collective Work and Responsibility reminds us of our obligation to the past, present and future, and that we have a role to play in the community, society, and world. [b](HORSESH!T - Collectivism/Marxism/Socialism = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Ujamaa[/b][/red]: Cooperative economics emphasizes our collective economic strength and encourages us to meet common needs through mutual support. [b](ZULUSH!T - Gov't Control of Property/Business = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Nia[/b][/red]: Purpose encourages us to look within ourselves and to set personal goals that are beneficial to the community. [b](ELEPHANTSH!T - The individual works for, and is subordinate to, the greater collective = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Kuumba[/b][/red]: Creativity makes use of our creative energies to build and maintain a strong and vibrant community. [b](HERDS-OF-ELEPHANTSH!T - "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their need" = Kwanzaa)[/b] [red][b]* Imani[/b][/red]: Faith focuses on honoring the best of our traditions, draws upon the best in ourselves, and helps us strive for a higher level of life for humankind, by affirming our self-worth and confidence in our ability to succeed and triumph in righteous struggle. [b](AFRIKAANASH!T- Affirm our self-worth by keeping racial quotas = Kwanzaa)[/b] [b][red] Kwanzaa is Collectivism. Kwanzaa is Socialism. Kwanzaa is a Marxist grab for the "hearts and minds" of the most gullible of the dumbest of the masses. [/red][/b]
Link Posted: 11/23/2002 3:13:47 PM EDT
Thats what I said. Didn't you get it? I must've had a typo... Good work The_Macallan BISHOP
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 4:32:31 AM EDT
All I know is someone here a couple days ago said you'll get a spear thru your heart if you say it to the wrong dude.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 4:39:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By -UHLEK-: What is Kwanzaa?
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Main Entry: Kwan·zaa Variant(s): also Kwan·za /'kwän-z&/ Function: noun Etymology: Swahili kwanza first Date: 1972 : an African-American festival held in late December
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 4:40:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/24/2002 4:48:10 AM EDT by Boom_Stick]
I thought a Kwanzaa was something Gomer Pyle lived in! A Kwanzaa hut? No wait, there's Quonset hut [(:)]... and then there's Kwanzaa hut! [@:D] AAHH, I get it!!! [;)]
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 5:00:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 1_153_370_371_407: if you go to africa and say "kwanzaa" to someone, they'll throw a spear through your chest
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dont ask me why, but i found this post to be fucking hilarious.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 5:44:19 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 7:43:05 AM EDT
So for KWANZAA where do you steal the gifts? It is a racist holiday made up by black people who do not speak or understand a word of Swahili or have the slightest idea what tribe they are from. Most of them have been in America longer than most whites, since slave imports ended in the 1810's. It is not based on a religion, and I think the typical gifts are some sort of free cheese and dries beans, followed by some toys from the Marine Corps Toys for tots, the free food chits from the government and a new SUV from any parking lot to drive the collection home to the free house from the government. And by the way, they asked real Africans about Kwanzaa and they laughed, hell they could not even name the tribes from Oakland where it was invented.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 7:57:56 AM EDT
kawanza
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gesundheit
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 8:42:44 AM EDT
But, but, but....didn't Thomas Magnum wish TC, happy Kwanzaa?
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 9:01:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By -UHLEK-: What is Kwanzaa?
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It is when you celebrate the building of a Kwanzaa hut. It is kind of like a barn raising but instead it celebrates the assembly of a the half circle, prefabricated building known as a Kwanzaa hut. If you remember episode 119, the one before Gomer went to Vietnam, they disassembled their Kwanzaa huts in a ceremony call kaimba-doo. They were then shipped to Da Nang. How can anyone who has ever put one together forget Kwanzaa.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 9:49:27 AM EDT
I'll tell you what it is... It is a fabricated holiday that is celebrated and taught in our schools with emphasis on the black aspect... This while Christmas is diluted to a mere Santa Clause - NO JESUS - time of the year to go shopping. I think the only reason Kwanzaa is not an actual National Holiday is because most of the people who celebrate it are off anyway! It is too funny to me how so many black Americans spew all of the Africa shit when; 1. They do not know jack about where they came from and under what circumstances. 2. They have no F'ing clue how F'd their homeland is right now. And 3. They damn sure do not want to leave the land of free food, medical care, housing, crazy checks, unemployment checks, welfare checks, food stamps, WIC (WTF?), education and a shit load of victims, ripe for the picking to return to the starvation/AIDS/war capital of the word (also known as the cradle of civilization, BTW!!!! HA!!!) Anyway, sorry and happy fucking Kwanzaa.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:04:01 AM EDT
OT: I was at the local USPS buying some Christmas stamps, appearently the USPS has printed up some Kawansa stamps; I didn't know they sell enough of those to justify the expense of printing the stamps. [url]http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productCategory.jsp?prodCat=/Stamps+by+Subject/Holiday&BV_UseBVCookie=yes[/url]
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:44:08 AM EDT
Kwanza is a Swahili word. Swahili is a language invented by Arab slave traders. The Arabs bought or traded for slaves from many different tribes on the east coast of Africa. There was a need to be able to communicate with all of the tribes that they traded with so Swahili was invented. It is a very simple language for basic communication. So american blacks celebrate a holiday with a name invented by Arab slave traders.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:44:30 AM EDT
anybody else here ever been to a kwanzaa celebration? well i have. in the ghetto. there were no burning effigies of white people nor any mention of marcus garvey, louis farrakhan, or anybody of those kinda folks. and it wasn't because there was a blue-eyed devil, i.e. ME, there. i had a great time and got butt wasted on some hootch. and the rottweiler only bit one person. harambe, mofos.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 11:42:36 AM EDT
Ron Karenga (not sure of spelling) a pinko socialist black professor at U.C.L.A. "black history" department was the creator of this so called "holiday". He was a phoney as his holiday rhetoric.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 12:33:50 PM EDT
Yes, its a bullshit holiday for black people who do not want to join the American culture. I would celebrate Ramadan before I celebrated Kwanzaa!!!
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 1:00:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tc6969: I think "Festivus" is a much better holiday! "Festivus.....For the rest of us"
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"I have a lotta gripes with you people and now you're gonna hear about them!" Bring out the aluminum pole!
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 3:25:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elvez: anybody else here ever been to a kwanzaa celebration? well i have. in the ghetto. there were no burning effigies of white people nor any mention of marcus garvey, louis farrakhan, or anybody of those kinda folks. and it wasn't because there was a blue-eyed devil, i.e. ME, there. i had a great time and got butt wasted on some hootch. and the rottweiler only bit one person. harambe, mofos.
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Point is their basic principles are entirely based on Marxism. Every one of them. There is nothing "African" about December 26. That date was chosen to be a wet blanket on Christmas. There is nothing "African" about ANY of the "guiding principles" of Kwanzaa. They are pure Marxism. The entire Kwanzaa "celebration" is a farce, a lie and a propaganda tool used by Marxist Black Separatists to diminish a MAJOR American/Christian/Western holiday and to drive yet another wedge between whites and blacks in America. Deceptions, divide & conquer and class-warfare all rolled into one.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 3:55:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By warlord: OT: I was at the local USPS buying some Christmas stamps, appearently the USPS has printed up some Kawansa stamps; I didn't know they sell enough of those to justify the expense of printing the stamps. [url]http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productCategory.jsp?prodCat=/Stamps+by+Subject/Holiday&BV_UseBVCookie=yes[/url]
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I used to use these every year.. It killed my friends and family to see them. We all had a damn good laugh at that.. Don't Let the Man keep you down.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 4:46:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: Point is their basic principles are entirely based on Marxism. Every one of them. There is nothing "African" about December 26. That date was chosen to be a wet blanket on Christmas. There is nothing "African" about ANY of the "guiding principles" of Kwanzaa. They are pure Marxism. The entire Kwanzaa "celebration" is a farce, a lie and a propaganda tool used by Marxist Black Separatists to diminish a MAJOR American/Christian/Western holiday and to drive yet another wedge between whites and blacks in America. Deceptions, divide & conquer and class-warfare all rolled into one.
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i've noticed no wedge-driving. most of the people that celebrate kwanzaa don't know anything about marx/ism. so is oktoberfest a secret nazi thing? it's german, ya know. jeez, must be. christmas is arbitrary and made up too. do some research and you'll find this out.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 5:28:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By elvez: so is oktoberfest a secret nazi thing? it's german, ya know. jeez, must be.
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I see you know of Frankenmuth.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 5:34:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By elvez: i've noticed no wedge-driving. most of the people that celebrate kwanzaa don't know anything about marx/ism.
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Name ONE "guiding principle" of Kwanzaa that isn't an exact ripoff of Marxist principles. Do some research and you'll find out.
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:33:55 PM EDT
Ya'll seem to have overlooked another fact: the inventor was/is also a convicted felon! Somewhat ironic, yes?
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:40:17 PM EDT
Hey ,,,,I guess the best thing about Kwanzaa is that you can use all the discounted Jewish and Christian stuff for Kwanzaa gifts since it starts on the day after Christmas. You got leftovers from decent holidays to eat and it ends with Bowl games in New Years day,, maybe they got something here?????
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 10:50:19 PM EDT
[img]http://www.interlog.com/~porteous/festivus2.gif[/img] Frank: Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had -- but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way. Kramer: What happened to the doll? Frank: It was destroyed. But out of that, a new holiday was born -- a Festivus for the rest of us!
Link Posted: 11/24/2002 11:36:45 PM EDT
is there a kwhiteza ?
Link Posted: 11/26/2002 10:23:24 AM EDT
The best way to descibe it is "a phony holiday made up by an avowed Maxist and Convicted Felon for the cheif purpose of left wing propoganda". [url]http://report.ca/archive/report/20011217/p41i011217f.html[/url]
Link Posted: 11/26/2002 12:46:44 PM EDT
In Nov 98 as I was getting ready to leave the Army, I began to grow out my hair in preparation of re-entry into the civilian world. My black platoon sgt says to me "Sgt revrat, yo hair gettin to be out of regs. What up wit dat?" I told her, "I be tryin to grow out my fro fo da upcomin Kwanzaa season." She was not nearly as amused with my equal mastery of ebonics as the rest of the folks standing around. Short timers attitude at it's very best!
Link Posted: 11/26/2002 1:37:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Saiga12: is there a kwhiteza ?
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Yes, it's called Christmas and is celebrated every year in late December, sometime around the Winter Solstice.
Link Posted: 11/26/2002 1:48:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By elvez: anybody else here ever been to a kwanzaa celebration? well i have. in the ghetto. there were no burning effigies of white people nor any mention of marcus garvey, louis farrakhan, or anybody of those kinda folks. and it wasn't because there was a blue-eyed devil, i.e. ME, there. i had a great time and got butt wasted on some hootch. and the rottweiler only bit one person. harambe, mofos.
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Point is their basic principles are entirely based on Marxism. Every one of them. There is nothing "African" about December 26. That date was chosen to be a wet blanket on Christmas. There is nothing "African" about ANY of the "guiding principles" of Kwanzaa. They are pure Marxism. The entire Kwanzaa "celebration" is a farce, a lie and a propaganda tool used by Marxist Black Separatists to diminish a MAJOR American/Christian/Western holiday and to drive yet another wedge between whites and blacks in America. Deceptions, divide & conquer and class-warfare all rolled into one.
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Come on man you know the answer to this : [b]There is nothing "African" about December 26. That date was chosen to be a wet blanket on Christmas.[/b] Wet blanket, hell we all know the day after Christmas is the biggest sale day of the year. What better day to do your last minute kwanza shopping but on the day everything is half off!! Unless you were just going to steal it anyway, in that case everyday is a sale day!![;)] [beer]
Link Posted: 11/26/2002 5:04:02 PM EDT
And after the Airing of the Greivances, we have the Feats of Strength! Oh God no, not the Feats of Strength!
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