[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Reincarnation (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/16/2013 1:41:25 AM EDT
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If reincarnation is how the afterlife, or metaphysical existence works, is it instant or is it delayed?
What if the love of your life died and you continue on for decades more? Are they instantly reincarnated into a new body and the time delay will keep you apart when it is your time to be reborn? Is it bad to hope that your prematurely deceased loved one is instantly reincarnated as a dog or something so your lifespans can once again sync up? I really want to be reincarnated near the same time as someone dear to me who has passed. If that's not going to happen then fuck it, I want off this merry-go-round. |
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Quoted: If reincarnation is how the afterlife, or metaphysical existence works, is it instant or is it delayed? What if the love of your life died and you continue on for decades more? Are they instantly reincarnated into a new body and the time delay will keep you apart when it is your time to be reborn? Is it bad to hope that your prematurely deceased loved one is instantly reincarnated as a dog or something so your lifespans can once again sync up? I really want to be reincarnated near the same time as someone dear to me who has passed. If that's not going to happen then fuck it, I want off this merry-go-round. |
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Quoted: If re-incarnation was viable, then where do the extra souls come from as the worlds population increases? What if there's a cataclysmic event, is there some sort of waiting room?  |
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If re-incarnation was viable, then where do the extra souls come from as the worlds population increases? What if there's a cataclysmic event, is there some sort of waiting room? Maybe they move up or down according to their karma. Some may become human again while others become animals or lower while some achieve a higher plane of existence or break free from samsara completely. |
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Funny you should mention this.
the Native Americans in my tribe are Christian to the bone, but believe in Reincarnation and other variables. they believe that you will go to heaven and be recycled in some degree. I think of it as a type of "Highlander" system. Some have told that your interests and hobbies today indicate what you have done in your past and that you have gained your knowledge from each life. |
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I was listening to early-AM radio one morning at work (3:00 AM-4:00 AM in the morning...)
Some self-proclaimed expert was talking about intergalactic reincarnation. She said that Earth was the insane asylum for lost souls and anyone here had been sent for a "Time-Out" before they could progress to the next level. No, I don't follow that crap but it was an interesting theory. |
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. |
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The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. I'm a Christian and even I see the faults. Creek Indians were still hanging hardcore Christian missionaries as late as 1920 in Oklahoma. Sometimes the brass believers are our religions worst enemy. Considering my Tribe has been around long before Jesus Christo. Long before, Think Ice Age old. |
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The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. |
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1) Reincarnation is no less reasonable a topic than believing in heaven, so I'll discuss your situation with the same validity as I would those ideas. 2) As for the "love of your life", I hate to break it to you, but you aren't "sole mates". You are two people who are very compatable with one another. There are billions of people, and millions of people whom you are compatible with. You and your SO were just lucky enough to find one another before someone else (possibly less desirable) did. 3) I have never heard any people talking about riencarnation talking about trying to find the same person you banged in the last life (maybe in movies or TV shows...but that about it.) |
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Quoted: Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile See how making statements with tho corroborating evidence works? Just because you believe it doesn't make it true. |
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sorry, that is your opinion, no one actually KNOWS what happens next. I respect your opinion but it is just that-an opinion. |
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Quoted: There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. |
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But there is arrogance in your statement when you say "this mythology that I believe is absolutely true, the mythology that other people believe doesn't exist". Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. Thats what I was getting at too. |
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Quoted: Thats what I was getting at too. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. Thats what I was getting at too. Plenty of people on here say "this is what I believe, I feel that I am right, but I really don't know"...I respect that. Its honest. On the other hand you have the "I know everything about god/afterlife/paranormal/reincarnation based on my own opinion of a certain religion, and anyone else who thinks they do is wrong." Then they want to pretend that statement is not a relfection of arrogance.  |
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Reincarnation and the related karma do exist, there is no afterlife related to Jesus, heaven or hell. See how making statements with tho corroborating evidence works? Just because you believe it doesn't make it true. Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile See how making statements with tho corroborating evidence works? Just because you believe it doesn't make it true. Whether I believe it or not doesn't make it true or untrue. Truth is not relative to my or your perception. |
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Quoted: Recommended reading for those curious about the notion of re-incarnation. A prophet in his own country: The story of the young Edgar Cayce Edgar Cayce's story of the origin and destiny of man. Edgar Cayce's story of Atlantis. FWIW, Patton also believed in reincarnation, and thought he was a general in the roman army or something. |
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Sorry, that is your opinion, no one actually KNOWS what happens next. I respect your opinion but it is just that-an opinion. Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sorry, that is your opinion, no one actually KNOWS what happens next. I respect your opinion but it is just that-an opinion. I do know what happens next. |
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But there is arrogance in your statement when you say "this mythology that I believe is absolutely true, the mythology that other people believe doesn't exist". Quoted:
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Reincarnation and the related karma do not exist. Their is an afterlife. If you trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will enjoy it. If you don't then you will not. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The arrogance and damnation of your religion does not do it any favors to attract others. There is no arrogance in Jesus' love for his creation although I can see that some who called themselves Christians didn't act right. What I believe in is not myth. |
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Quoted: What I believe in is not myth. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What I believe in is not myth. Again, your statement and mine are equivalents. Didn't Jesus say his followers should be humble? Funny that so many never get the memo. Furthermore: "I can't possibly be wrong with my all encompassing view of the universe" is the PEAK of arrogance. |
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Evidently I didn't gain much wisdom from my previous lives because I have managed to fuck up this one quite a bit. Quoted:
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According to some, there's generally a rest period for reflection and to gain wisdom. Evidently I didn't gain much wisdom from my previous lives because I have managed to fuck up this one quite a bit. Maybe it's your first go 'round? |
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Quoted: Maybe it's your first go 'round? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: According to some, there's generally a rest period for reflection and to gain wisdom. Evidently I didn't gain much wisdom from my previous lives because I have managed to fuck up this one quite a bit. Maybe it's your first go 'round? |
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According to some theoretical physicists time is like a river, all that has been and all that will come exists. At any given point in our lives we are somewhere different in that river of time. You could be reincarnated in the past or future. DAMMIT! Its too early to make me think like that! |
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Is this fiction, or some guy claiming to have been reincarnated? FWIW, Patton also believed in reincarnation, and thought he was a general in the roman army or something.
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Recommended reading for those curious about the notion of re-incarnation. A prophet in his own country: The story of the young Edgar Cayce Edgar Cayce's story of the origin and destiny of man. Edgar Cayce's story of Atlantis. FWIW, Patton also believed in reincarnation, and thought he was a general in the roman army or something.
Not fiction. Google Edgar Cayce, or search him on Wikipedia for a short answer. Edgar Cayce did not write any books. These, and others, were written after his death. If you're truly interested, I would suggest reading "Forbidden Archeology", "Gods of air and darkness (if you can find it), "Forbidden History" and "Gold of the Gods". I have to say I really was an Agnostic until I read the books about Cayce and other unrelated books about forbidden, discounted and ignored archeological findings. I am not a church-goer, but became a firm believer in GOD after reading these and doing some critical thinking. |
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What people who believe in reincarnation believe are not myths. Again, your statement and mine are equivalents. Didn't Jesus say his followers should be humble? Funny that so many never get the memo. Furthermore: "I can't possibly be wrong with my all encompassing view of the universe" is the PEAK of arrogance. Quoted:
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What I believe in is not myth. Again, your statement and mine are equivalents. Didn't Jesus say his followers should be humble? Funny that so many never get the memo. Furthermore: "I can't possibly be wrong with my all encompassing view of the universe" is the PEAK of arrogance. Thank you! that my take on it exactly. And we are off to the races I see...this is why I usually stay out of these threads.
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Quoted: Extinct species. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If re-incarnation was viable, then where do the extra souls come from as the worlds population increases? What if there's a cataclysmic event, is there some sort of waiting room? Extinct species. Thats why you have small hands.  |
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If re-incarnation was viable, then where do the extra souls come from as the worlds population increases? What if there's a cataclysmic event, is there some sort of waiting room? 
They just get repurposed from other ones that were sitting in inventory which were meant for sheep and cephalopods. Ultimately, it might be like bit coins and perhaps there are only a finite number. So whatever else springs to life after that figure is reached doesn't get a soul. Maybe we've already reached the limit and that's why we have gingers. When they appear, it's like a glitch in the Matrix. |
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Quoted: I choose to believe the Gospel and the promise of everlasting life well away from this existence we have here. This is the message of hope that makes the walk of life bearable. Without hope, the people perish. You are either convinced of something and believe it or you're not and don't. Lying to yourself doesn't work. |
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How can you choose to believe something? You are either convinced of something and believe it or you're not and don't. Lying to yourself doesn't work. Quoted:
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I choose to believe the Gospel and the promise of everlasting life well away from this existence we have here. This is the message of hope that makes the walk of life bearable. Without hope, the people perish. You are either convinced of something and believe it or you're not and don't. Lying to yourself doesn't work. Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see. Hebrews 11:1 We are not animals. Everything we consciously do is a choice. We are not animals that do not have power over their decisions. We cannot lie to ourselves....at least if we are sane. If believing were easy and if there was evidence for all things we Believers trust, then it doesn't take faith. It doesn't take faith to believe that the earth is round. It is proven and the evidence is overwhelming. But to believe in the unseen based only on the testimony of others that cannot prove what they believe is purely a matter of faith. For those who believe, no explanation is needed: for those who do not, no explanation will suffice. |
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Ever heard of Roger Penrose?
He has an idea that consciousness works on a quantum level not the classical, and it's not the synapses that are processing our thoughts but tiny things called microtubules. That's why single cell organisms can learn. There is another thing called holographic principle which says the information states that make up our reality are actually stored remotely, like the way the info of what's inside a black hole is stored on the horizon of it. The layer that stores the information stores everything at once, all the quantum superpositions. Quantum computers hope to tap in to this layer. Then when a super position is collapsed to an outcome, we get a state in the classical 3D physical reality. Now if you want to go a bit new age, you can couple microtubules and the holographic principle together and it could be that our consciousness is stored remotely on the information layer and our brains are just kind of a carrier or condensing point. Then stretch it even further in to the realms of metaphysical hippy bullshit and maybe consciousness can get condensed in to new brains? There is actually a kernel of science/math behind some of this new age stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFFbxoHp3s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsbZT9bJ1s4 The real universe happens on the information layer, basically the universe is a quantum computer. What we experience as reality is just an artifact or illusion left over from the computational processes. When you look at a star you are really just seeing an artifact of informational processing that happened billions of years ago. A relic/artifact. |
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Quoted: Everything we consciously do is a choice. We are not animals that do not have power over their decisions. We cannot lie to ourselves....at least if we are sane. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I choose to believe the Gospel and the promise of everlasting life well away from this existence we have here. This is the message of hope that makes the walk of life bearable. Without hope, the people perish. You are either convinced of something and believe it or you're not and don't. Lying to yourself doesn't work. Everything we consciously do is a choice. We are not animals that do not have power over their decisions. We cannot lie to ourselves....at least if we are sane. You don't go out and say "hey, I'm going to choose not believe in gravity today", or "I am going to choose to believe in santa claus" It just doesn't work. You either think these things are real or you don't. Having hope that they are real even if you aren't convinced simply because it would be cooler if they were real is lying to yourself. |