Posted: 11/14/2013 11:21:00 AM EDT
| Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? |
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Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? Plenty. Owned one for years, know lots of users of the gun in various .mil and LE endeavors. Good points: - Assuming you get one that's not subject to Sig's QC dip, they're reliable. (Note on that, while I've heard of complaints with other Sig pistols, so far not one on the P239...for whatever that's worth) - They work with pretty much whatever ammo you want to feed them - Tend to be durable for a single-stack - Aside from the small-ish mags, handles about as well as any full-sized Sig, so shootability, ease of manipulation, etc is as good as with full-sized Sigs. I mention the mags only because I found them a tad harder to perform speed reloads with than the double stack mags or even a 1911 mag. Not a deal breaker though. Bad points - Tends to be bulky for what it is. It's in the size range of the Glock 19, but it's got half the ammo. That actually might be an asset in NY since you're being raped by Bloomberg's fetid cock. - Tends to be heavy for what it is. Of the single stack non-.45 guns on the market, the P239 is probably the most widely issued as both a primary and/or off-duty or backup weapon in certain circumstances by a number of state, local, and even some federal LE and even in the military. It doesn't have the super concealability of a Shield, but it's a damn good pistol as far as single-stack automatics go. It's a big bruiser for a single-stack 9mm, bigger and bulkier than the 3913 by a considerable margin...but it's still a generally good gun if you can work with the size and capacity is irrelevant. In terms of performance it's likely to be far more than "passable", more in the category of "excellent" in terms of accuracy. |
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239's have the capacity compromises of smaller pistols but are still big. They seem outdated by newer options that have entered the market lately.
If you want a compact, look at 938's. If you can carry something the size of a p239, then why not just go with a G19 or similar. Or in the middle maybe a p224 if you like the decocker ergos and already have sig mags. G19 with no backstraps installed is good for small hands, if you are maybe looking for a wife gun you can still stand to shoot. |
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Great pistol. Very user friendly and easy to handle. My only dislikes [which have been covered here by several others] are that for its size it is woefully short on magazine capacity and it does have a slight weight problem. But honestly if I had to carry it, I would carry it happily. |
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239's have the capacity compromises of smaller pistols but are still big. They seem outdated by newer options that have entered the market lately. If you want a compact, look at 938's. If you can carry something the size of a p239, then why not just go with a G19 or similar. Or in the middle maybe a p224 if you like the decocker ergos and already have sig mags. G19 with no backstraps installed is good for small hands, if you are maybe looking for a wife gun you can still stand to shoot. I agree that as far as single-stack options go, the P239 is really put into an awkward position by its size. It's not a small gun by any stretch. It's not much smaller than Sig's full-sized offerings. That being said, I'd trust a P239 long before I'd trust a 938 or the 224. Those guns are just too new, IMO, and I'm skeptical of new until it's been out for a while and the bugs shake out. |
I've had a Sig P239 in .40 caliber for about 10 years. I've fired about 500 rounds through it and never had a single malfunction. I've never fired it at 25 yards, but it is very accurate at 15 yards and is easy to shoot. My only complaint is I do not like the rounded sloping trigger guard. I like wrapping a finger around the front of the trigger guard and the design of the 239 trigger guard doesn't allow you to do that very effectively without your finger slipping off during firing. I put some Hogue finger groove grips on it that help to hold the pistol more securely (hard plastic grips are slippery when you're sweating). I like it because it conceals easily in a holster due to its single stack mag, although it is somewhat heavy (29.5 ounces) compared to all the modern polymer frame guns. My P30 weighs a good bit less, but is harder to conceal. I would take a look at the S&W M&P Shield. The Shield is light at 19 ounces and is small and thin, and it has a manual safety. I am thinking about picking one up. It seems like the perfect carry gun.
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Plenty. Owned one for years, know lots of users of the gun in various .mil and LE endeavors. Good points: - Assuming you get one that's not subject to Sig's QC dip, they're reliable. (Note on that, while I've heard of complaints with other Sig pistols, so far not one on the P239...for whatever that's worth) - They work with pretty much whatever ammo you want to feed them - Tend to be durable for a single-stack - Aside from the small-ish mags, handles about as well as any full-sized Sig, so shootability, ease of manipulation, etc is as good as with full-sized Sigs. I mention the mags only because I found them a tad harder to perform speed reloads with than the double stack mags or even a 1911 mag. Not a deal breaker though. Bad points - Tends to be bulky for what it is. It's in the size range of the Glock 19, but it's got half the ammo. That actually might be an asset in NY since you're being raped by Bloomberg's fetid cock. - Tends to be heavy for what it is. Of the single stack non-.45 guns on the market, the P239 is probably the most widely issued as both a primary weapon in certain circumstances by a number of state, local, and even some federal LE and even in the military. It doesn't have the super concealability of a Shield, but it's a damn good pistol as far as single-stack automatics go. Quoted:
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Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? Plenty. Owned one for years, know lots of users of the gun in various .mil and LE endeavors. Good points: - Assuming you get one that's not subject to Sig's QC dip, they're reliable. (Note on that, while I've heard of complaints with other Sig pistols, so far not one on the P239...for whatever that's worth) - They work with pretty much whatever ammo you want to feed them - Tend to be durable for a single-stack - Aside from the small-ish mags, handles about as well as any full-sized Sig, so shootability, ease of manipulation, etc is as good as with full-sized Sigs. I mention the mags only because I found them a tad harder to perform speed reloads with than the double stack mags or even a 1911 mag. Not a deal breaker though. Bad points - Tends to be bulky for what it is. It's in the size range of the Glock 19, but it's got half the ammo. That actually might be an asset in NY since you're being raped by Bloomberg's fetid cock. - Tends to be heavy for what it is. Of the single stack non-.45 guns on the market, the P239 is probably the most widely issued as both a primary weapon in certain circumstances by a number of state, local, and even some federal LE and even in the military. It doesn't have the super concealability of a Shield, but it's a damn good pistol as far as single-stack automatics go. As usual John_Wayne777 is spot on! I have one and love it. It is a great gun. Very accurate, reliable etc. The problem it is a single stack and it basically the same size and weight as a Glock 19 with half the rounds. My is also a DA/SA. It takes a lot of shooting to get used to firing the first round Double action unless you are will cock the hammer. I much prefer the same trigger pull of the Glock 19. Not sure if they made any DAK versions in this model. |
| In my experience it is a reliable, accurate gun that is very comfortable to shoot. It is true that you can get a smaller pistol with basically the same capacity (or not much less) or a little bigger of a pistol with a lot more capacity, but I'm guessing you're not interested in the former, and the latter isn't currently of much help to you. |
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As usual John_Wayne777 is spot on! I have one and love it. It is a great gun. Very accurate, reliable etc. The problem it is a single stack and it basically the same size and weight as a Glock 19 with half the rounds. My is also a DA/SA. It takes a lot of shooting to get used to firing the first round Double action unless you are will cock the hammer. I much prefer the same trigger pull of the Glock 19. Not sure if they made any DAK versions in this model. Quoted:
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Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? Plenty. Owned one for years, know lots of users of the gun in various .mil and LE endeavors. Good points: - Assuming you get one that's not subject to Sig's QC dip, they're reliable. (Note on that, while I've heard of complaints with other Sig pistols, so far not one on the P239...for whatever that's worth) - They work with pretty much whatever ammo you want to feed them - Tend to be durable for a single-stack - Aside from the small-ish mags, handles about as well as any full-sized Sig, so shootability, ease of manipulation, etc is as good as with full-sized Sigs. I mention the mags only because I found them a tad harder to perform speed reloads with than the double stack mags or even a 1911 mag. Not a deal breaker though. Bad points - Tends to be bulky for what it is. It's in the size range of the Glock 19, but it's got half the ammo. That actually might be an asset in NY since you're being raped by Bloomberg's fetid cock. - Tends to be heavy for what it is. Of the single stack non-.45 guns on the market, the P239 is probably the most widely issued as both a primary weapon in certain circumstances by a number of state, local, and even some federal LE and even in the military. It doesn't have the super concealability of a Shield, but it's a damn good pistol as far as single-stack automatics go. As usual John_Wayne777 is spot on! I have one and love it. It is a great gun. Very accurate, reliable etc. The problem it is a single stack and it basically the same size and weight as a Glock 19 with half the rounds. My is also a DA/SA. It takes a lot of shooting to get used to firing the first round Double action unless you are will cock the hammer. I much prefer the same trigger pull of the Glock 19. Not sure if they made any DAK versions in this model. They make a DAK as well as a DAO model (that wonderful long trigger on every single pull) |
| I used to carry one in 357 SIG as a bug / off duty gun. Concealled pretty well and got very use to it on my ankle. It was an extremely accurate gun but the trigger pull and big size eventually led me to sell it and get a G26. As a primary gun for ccw if you like da/sa its a good choice. Due to the weight the 9mm is very very easy to shoot. It also greatly reduced recoil in 357. |
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As usual John_Wayne777 is spot on! I have one and love it. It is a great gun. Very accurate, reliable etc. The problem it is a single stack and it basically the same size and weight as a Glock 19 with half the rounds. My is also a DA/SA. It takes a lot of shooting to get used to firing the first round Double action unless you are will cock the hammer. I much prefer the same trigger pull of the Glock 19. Not sure if they made any DAK versions in this model. Quoted:
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Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? Plenty. Owned one for years, know lots of users of the gun in various .mil and LE endeavors. Good points: - Assuming you get one that's not subject to Sig's QC dip, they're reliable. (Note on that, while I've heard of complaints with other Sig pistols, so far not one on the P239...for whatever that's worth) - They work with pretty much whatever ammo you want to feed them - Tend to be durable for a single-stack - Aside from the small-ish mags, handles about as well as any full-sized Sig, so shootability, ease of manipulation, etc is as good as with full-sized Sigs. I mention the mags only because I found them a tad harder to perform speed reloads with than the double stack mags or even a 1911 mag. Not a deal breaker though. Bad points - Tends to be bulky for what it is. It's in the size range of the Glock 19, but it's got half the ammo. That actually might be an asset in NY since you're being raped by Bloomberg's fetid cock. - Tends to be heavy for what it is. Of the single stack non-.45 guns on the market, the P239 is probably the most widely issued as both a primary weapon in certain circumstances by a number of state, local, and even some federal LE and even in the military. It doesn't have the super concealability of a Shield, but it's a damn good pistol as far as single-stack automatics go. As usual John_Wayne777 is spot on! I have one and love it. It is a great gun. Very accurate, reliable etc. The problem it is a single stack and it basically the same size and weight as a Glock 19 with half the rounds. My is also a DA/SA. It takes a lot of shooting to get used to firing the first round Double action unless you are will cock the hammer. I much prefer the same trigger pull of the Glock 19. Not sure if they made any DAK versions in this model. They did. I find the grip to be the single greatest impediment to good concealment, and the P239 to be far easier to conceal than the G19. |
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I used to carry one in 357 SIG as a bug / off duty gun. Concealled pretty well and got very use to it on my ankle. It was an extremely accurate gun but the trigger pull and big size eventually led me to sell it and get a G26. As a primary gun for ccw if you like da/sa its a good choice. Due to the weight the 9mm is very very easy to shoot. It also greatly reduced recoil in 357. WAY better pistol than a Glock 32, IMO. |
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...or are cursed to live in an area where a Glock 19 magazine can get you raped in prison. Quoted:
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They're very good pistols. They're also kind of pointless unless you have small hands and can't grip a double stack. ...or are cursed to live in an area where a Glock 19 magazine can get you raped in prison. True enough. |
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I put 100 rounds through a rented one this summer, at distances between 25 feet and 25 yards. Keeping shots on an FBI Q Target, one or two handed, was not a problem. In fact, for being a pistol that I had never handled before, it was fairly accurate- though I was not shooting it as accurately as my familiar Smith 6906. I did have one problem- a couple of times, the slide on the pistol I was shooting did fail to lock to the rear on the last shot. The staff attributed that to the gun being dirty from lack of cleaning/ rental use.
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WAY better pistol than a Glock 32, IMO. Quoted:
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I used to carry one in 357 SIG as a bug / off duty gun. Concealled pretty well and got very use to it on my ankle. It was an extremely accurate gun but the trigger pull and big size eventually led me to sell it and get a G26. As a primary gun for ccw if you like da/sa its a good choice. Due to the weight the 9mm is very very easy to shoot. It also greatly reduced recoil in 357. WAY better pistol than a Glock 32, IMO. If I had a choice between the two, i'd probably take the 239 but i'd want to have some trigger work done on it. I've tried to carry a G19 on my ankle but it was just too much to try. The 239, on the other hand worked pretty well. The G26 ended up being the best choice. As a belt gun for CCW the 239 is pretty hard to beat as long as you like the trigger. |
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Great pistol. My EDC.
I originally bought the 239 in 9mm for my wife, but she couldn't carry because it is illegal to do so where she works. I hung onto it as a training gun for students, but didn't use it much myself. I decided to bring it when I took the SigArms Academy pistol instructor class a few years back. I ran the gun for five full days and really fell in love with it then. It's extremely reliable, very accurate, and conceals very well. The fact it's a single stack helps with the concealment, but at the trade off of capacity. |
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ive got the SAS version in 9mm. fantastic little gun, once I got used to shooting it I became very accurate with it as well. its my everyday carry and is on my hip right now.
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Anyone with personal experience with these pistols, are they reasonable every day pistols that shoot accurately at say 25 yards despite the somewhat small size ie similar to a glock 19? |