[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Stop Signs vs Yield Signs (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/30/2013 10:49:51 AM EDT
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One means Stop. One means enter cautiously. There's a difference.
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Most are, they are horribly overused in the US. Abused, really. Quoted:
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yield signs don't exist stop signs are yield signs Most are, they are horribly overused in the US. Abused, really. I'm sure you could replace 75% of the stop signs with a yield sign and nothing would change except revenue would go down. I wonder why they don't do it? 
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This one's getting old now, but I haven't posted it in probably a year or more:
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Say what. Isn't that what every yield sign is. Cars = don't go. No cars = go. Quoted:
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Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. Say what. Isn't that what every yield sign is. Cars = don't go. No cars = go. This thread is starting to remind me of the left lane threads, in a way. |
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Say what. Isn't that what every yield sign is. Cars = don't go. No cars = go. Quoted:
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Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. Say what. Isn't that what every yield sign is. Cars = don't go. No cars = go. I think he means on a freeway? I hate it when an onramp goes right into the freeway with no lane to merge. Piss poor design/planning IMO. |
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I'm sure you could replace 75% of the stop signs with a yield sign and nothing would change except revenue would go down. I wonder why they don't do it? Quoted:
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yield signs don't exist stop signs are yield signs Most are, they are horribly overused in the US. Abused, really. I'm sure you could replace 75% of the stop signs with a yield sign and nothing would change except revenue would go down. I wonder why they don't do it? Gotta get money yo. |
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This one's getting old now, but I haven't posted it in probably a year or more: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/distracting-miss-daisy/306873 Quoted:
This one's getting old now, but I haven't posted it in probably a year or more: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/distracting-miss-daisy/306873 A particularly vexing aspect of the U.S. policy is that speed limits seem to be enforced more when speeding is safe. As a colleague once pointed out, “An empty highway on a sunny day? You’re dead meat!” A more systematic effort to train drivers to ignore road conditions can hardly be imagined. By training drivers to drive according to the signs rather than their judgment in great conditions, the American system also subtly encourages them to rely on the signs rather than judgment in poor conditions, when merely following the signs would be dangerous. |
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If there's traffic, you yield to the traffic. Quoted:
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Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. If there's traffic, you yield to the traffic. At this particular intersection I'm thinking of, the only way to check for traffic is to come to a complete stop so you can turn your head 170 degrees and look out the rear window for traffic. |
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folks around here can't seem to figure out the difference between yield and merge. That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. |
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That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. Quoted:
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folks around here can't seem to figure out the difference between yield and merge. That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. That only works if there is a merge lane available. Otherwise, you run into the situation I described above. If you just kept going you wouldn't be able to stop by the time you are able to see the traffic. |
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Quoted: Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. I can do better than idiots stopping at a merge sign. We have an exit ramp here to a city street - the right turn lane continues on to the street in a protected lane with a solid stripe. People seem to think that there is no lane there, so people stop all the time for no reason. Or even worse, they cut over into other traffic because they aren't looking at the road to see that there is a lane right there in front of them. Or the worst ever yielding idiot was on US22 right where it meets the ramps from the PA Turnpike in Allentown. A guy decides to STOP in the middle of otherwise fast flowing traffic to let someone in from the on-ramp. Which resulted in some skid marks and a jack-knifed trailer on the guy behind him, and another near miss with the guy behind HIM, and then me behind them all going WTF in a semi. And then there are the people who seem to think that the signs telling them that the lane they are in is ending RIGHT FUCKING NOW means hit the gas and try to shove themselves into the bumpers of everyone next to them in an effort to cram into the line before they end up squished against a concrete wall. Usually doing so when there is 50 feet of open space in the lane behind the car that they almost hit. |
| Slightly off-topic, what's with people not knowing what an acceleration lane is meant for? Is it to give you time to finish putting make-up on or making inputs on your GPS to give you directions how to get home? Granted it is always wonderful to see people telling me I'm #1 after I run them down the shoulder for a mile or so cause they think it is my job to get out of THEIR way, lol. |
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At this particular intersection I'm thinking of, the only way to check for traffic is to come to a complete stop so you can turn your head 170 degrees and look out the rear window for traffic. Quoted:
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Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. If there's traffic, you yield to the traffic. At this particular intersection I'm thinking of, the only way to check for traffic is to come to a complete stop so you can turn your head 170 degrees and look out the rear window for traffic. I think I've been behind, and cursed, you a few thousand times over the years. |
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Quoted: One means Stop. One means enter cautiously. There's a difference. Sometimes I wonder how people even pass their written test. Am I wrong or right? You sir are WRONG!!! If a yield sign is next to a merge sign, say on an exit ramp, this means the driver must come to a complete stop, thus making the guy behind him slam on his brakes because he sees a opening large enough the land a 747 in and can't comprehend why the fucknut in front of him is stopping. |
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That only works if there is a merge lane available. Otherwise, you run into the situation I described above. If you just kept going you wouldn't be able to stop by the time you are able to see the traffic. Quoted:
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folks around here can't seem to figure out the difference between yield and merge. That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. That only works if there is a merge lane available. Otherwise, you run into the situation I described above. If you just kept going you wouldn't be able to stop by the time you are able to see the traffic. I don't need a merge lane. You just start heading toward the lane, get your speed right when entering the lane and someone will either speed up or slow down. Poof, you're in. |
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I think I've been behind, and cursed, you a few thousand times over the years. Quoted:
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Gotta love the Yield sign that dumps you right into traffic lanes with no merge lane. That's basically a stop sign. If there's traffic, you yield to the traffic. At this particular intersection I'm thinking of, the only way to check for traffic is to come to a complete stop so you can turn your head 170 degrees and look out the rear window for traffic. I think I've been behind, and cursed, you a few thousand times over the years. Ditto. |
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I don't need a merge lane. You just start heading toward the lane, get your speed right when entering the lane and someone will either speed up or slow down. Poof, you're in. Quoted:
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folks around here can't seem to figure out the difference between yield and merge. That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. That only works if there is a merge lane available. Otherwise, you run into the situation I described above. If you just kept going you wouldn't be able to stop by the time you are able to see the traffic. I don't need a merge lane. You just start heading toward the lane, get your speed right when entering the lane and someone will either speed up or slow down. Poof, you're in. LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. |
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Google map link, please. |
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Google map link, please. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. |
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https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. Quoted:
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Google map link, please. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. I'd be all sorts of pissed and mocking the town if they put a stop sign there. |
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Quoted:
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folks around here can't seem to figure out the difference between yield and merge. That's where my comment stems from. There is always a yield sign where you need to merge. A lot of people stop at that yield sign and it drives me fucking nuts. Keep going and work your way in to keep the flow going. There had better be slow moving traffic for you to stop. That only works if there is a merge lane available. Otherwise, you run into the situation I described above. If you just kept going you wouldn't be able to stop by the time you are able to see the traffic. I don't need a merge lane. You just start heading toward the lane, get your speed right when entering the lane and someone will either speed up or slow down. Poof, you're in. LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Well come on man! There are always exceptions. lol Seriously though, the majority of the time what I said above works. There will always be a small amount of times when yes, you have to come to a complete stop though. Very few though. 
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https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. Quoted:
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Google map link, please. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. The key is to start looking before you even get to the yield sign though. You have to anticipate. I could handle that yield sign like a boss. 
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The key is to start looking before you even get to the yield sign though. You have to anticipate. I could handle that yield sign like a boss. Quoted:
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LOL You'd kill yourself and a bus load of nuns the first time you tried this yield that I'm talking about. You can't see any traffic until you're at the yield sign, because there are big shrubs, trees and signs in the way. Everybody stops there because you have no choice. Google map link, please. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&hl=en&ll=36.911948,-76.068153&spn=0.000002,0.001029&hq=shore+drive+great+neck+virginia+beach&radius=15000&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=36.911948,-76.068153&panoid=1XHYZpyoaRdyEdpc-HSWcA&cbp=12,344.57,,0,19.29 There will be cars coming through the intersection about 50 mph. Between the line of stopped cars and trees to the left when you approach, you can't really see anything until you are almost to the yield sign. The key is to start looking before you even get to the yield sign though. You have to anticipate. I could handle that yield sign like a boss. There is nothing to see as you approach. The lane of stopped cars blocks your view down the road as you approach. The google view doesn't seem as bad as actually being there in traffic. Of course, everyone can handle it from the safety of their computer monitor. But if you come flying through there at yield speed and dump out onto the traffic lane without being able to see down the road, you're going to get smacked. It's a nasty one that can catch you by surprise because there is no merge lane like you'd expect. |
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Around here, cops want to see your brake lights, even briefly, at a yield sign. Quoted:
Around here, cops want to see your brake lights, even briefly, at a yield sign. Odd, as that has shit all to do with the law. http://statutes.laws.com/arkansas/title-27/subtitle-4/chapter-51/subchapter-6/27-51-601 (e) The driver of a vehicle approaching a yield sign, if required for safety to stop, shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. In the event there is no crosswalk, the driver shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway. I see nothing about "ride the breaks before determining if it is required for safety to stop." Then again, you are talking about Arkansas cops. |
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Yield does not mean "enter cautiously," it means, well... yield. The reason to "enter cautiously," is to be prepared to, well... yield. Hence the word, "yield." This. A YIELD sign does not equal a MERGE sign. Yield means what it says, yield to traffic. It does not mean merge. |
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This. A YIELD sign does not equal a MERGE sign. Yield means what it says, yield to traffic. It does not mean merge. Quoted:
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Yield does not mean "enter cautiously," it means, well... yield. The reason to "enter cautiously," is to be prepared to, well... yield. Hence the word, "yield." This. A YIELD sign does not equal a MERGE sign. Yield means what it says, yield to traffic. It does not mean merge. I don't really see the difference between merge and yield. They both call for the same action. |
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Quoted: I don't really see the difference between merge and yield. They both call for the same action. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yield does not mean "enter cautiously," it means, well... yield. The reason to "enter cautiously," is to be prepared to, well... yield. Hence the word, "yield." This. A YIELD sign does not equal a MERGE sign. Yield means what it says, yield to traffic. It does not mean merge. I don't really see the difference between merge and yield. They both call for the same action. You must yield in order to merge... You can't merge into another vehicle. Such signs are often seen when a lane on a freeway becomes exit-only or ends soon. See them on some local streets as well. "Through traffic merge left" and such. There is no requirement to stop, and doing so in the middle of traffic is likely to piss people off and create a hazard(not that it ever stops people from doing so). Yielding has nothing to do with merging, as such - it is used for two roads joining, not a lane ending. If there is traffic that makes it unsafe for either party, you must STOP and yield the right of way to the other traffic before continuing. If there is no one in the way you don't have to stop.
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