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9/28/2013 1:28:51 AM EDT
Who thinks the courts decision to overturn the law was the best?

My opinion is that the law was unconstitutional and a huge overreach of the government in a religious subject.
9/28/2013 1:57:50 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
9/28/2013 2:00:19 AM EDT
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Yeah normalcy that's it.  Its normal for a guy to want to stick his pecker in another guys butt........



the anus is an exit, not an entrance
9/28/2013 2:06:36 AM EDT
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Some people trivialize marriage and call it "just a piece of paper."

Others see the traditional family as the foundational unit of our society.
9/28/2013 2:09:56 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
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9/28/2013 2:10:50 AM EDT
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Yeah normalcy that's it.  Its normal for a guy to want to stick his pecker in another guys butt........
the anus is an exit, not an entrance


You all sure put a lot of thought into gay sex.. Something you wanna tell me Larry?











 
9/28/2013 2:10:51 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
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No, you simply stopped reading.



 
9/28/2013 2:12:17 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
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No, you simply stopped reading.

 
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9/28/2013 2:13:52 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
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No, you simply stopped reading.

 
Still wrong

 
Then enlighten us.



 
9/28/2013 2:17:16 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.

Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.

Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.

But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.

Another disaster created by government.
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No, you simply stopped reading.

 
Still wrong

 
Then enlighten us.

 
There isn't any point you think the gays are out to get you so anything I say will have no meaning to you...



 
9/28/2013 2:18:22 AM EDT
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When where you made a "(Staff/Mod/Advertiser)"?

 
9/28/2013 2:26:31 AM EDT
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There isn't any point you think the gays are out to get you so anything I say will have no meaning to you...



 
You got THAT out of my post?



WOW.



Wrong. I personally am rather neutral on the subject.



I think that marriage is what it is, and that it began as a religious contract between a man and woman; therefore, you can't just change terms because it is "hip" to do so.



At the same time, gays have a point, if the government is going to dish out benefits (SS, etc.) then why shouldn't they get those benefits if they are in a committed relationship as well? That came about because the state took up marriage as well (getting a license to make it official and all).



Had the state kept it's damn nose out of where it did not belong, there would be no debate or divide today.



That was how it started.  Once there was push back (primarily from the religious folks), the gays got angry.  Led, as things usually are, by the extremist, it eventually became a matter of changing the definition of marriage because the religious folks HATED that more than anything.  Of course the long term goal was to get the idea accepted by a majority, but that was already happening.



As Plank said,"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."

That was already happening.
 

 
9/28/2013 2:33:09 AM EDT
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When where you made a "(Staff/Mod/Advertiser)"?  


It was a month or so ago.  Riding herd on the SC forum is like being the Maytag Repairman.  
9/28/2013 2:37:42 AM EDT
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I see traditional family as the foundation of society, but could give a shit less if two chicks want to get conjugalated. People give the gays a pedistal to preach from by treating less than 10% of population like they are dog shit. Gays are a non issue, they hurt no one. Well the pedos and pervs do, but then they should be hanged, instead of liveing 10 feet beyond their legal limit from an elementary school.

when I see a guy walking down the crowded streets in assless chaps in broad daylight I get the urge to kick the shit out of him.. Not because he is gay, but because there is young kids around that are forced to see what he is selling. That shit aint right but it is all too common is some places around here. They cant be touched because they are gays being gays.

I get the feeling if they had been accepted into society from the start they wouldnt get away with fuckery like that.
9/28/2013 2:45:23 AM EDT
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I'm pro gay rights and saw DOMA as an insult.  My hope is that Gays eventually see this Marxist for what he is. All that efforts such as DOMA do is drive otherwise good people into the enemy camp.


when I see a guy walking down the crowded streets in assless chaps in broad daylight I get the urge to kick the shit out of him.. Not because he is gay, but because there is young kids around that are forced to see what he is selling. That shit aint right but it is all too common is some places around here. They cant be touched because they are gays being gays.
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Fully agree. The idiot with his dick hanging out and wearing a feather boa has nothing to do with Gay rights. He's just a fucking idiot and needs to be ID'd as such....by everyone..gay or straight.
9/28/2013 3:17:36 AM EDT
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9/28/2013 3:25:34 AM EDT
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.
9/28/2013 3:33:31 AM EDT
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.


I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
slavery to marriage comparison=LOL

in the history of civilisation marriage has always been between man and woman, its a cornerstone.
9/28/2013 3:39:09 AM EDT
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All you have done this post is tell everyone how wrong they are. Do you have anything you want to share?

While the description of gay sex may have been crass, i think YOU may have a better understanding of how it works than he does.


9/28/2013 3:41:10 AM EDT
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I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
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Some people trivialize marriage and call it "just a piece of paper."

Others see the traditional family as the foundational unit of our society.




I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.


I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
slavery to marriage comparison=LOL

in the history of civilisation marriage has always been between man and woman, its a cornerstone.


But homosexuality has been seen throughout history.  Whether it is acceptable depends on the societal rules of the time.  If two men or two women pledge to each other to love each other until their dying days and then fulfill their promise, isn't it a "marriage" even if we call it that or not?
9/28/2013 3:52:07 AM EDT
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Compromise leads to more compromise leads to decay.. While it may be ok with you, dont think it should be something to strive for. First marriage. Can i now have 4 wives, a goat and a cow?

Next will be 1A and 2A and so on..

Where do you draw the line..
9/28/2013 4:03:18 AM EDT
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I wish the Government wouldn't let me as a heterosexual get married.  Poor suckers (and lickers) don't know what they're in for.  
9/28/2013 5:27:47 AM EDT
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Almost 80% are radical left progressives. They want that special big .gov victims tag to scream discrimination for their butt hurt feelings when the boss tells em get to work or the bone out of their nose or the hockey puck out of their ear lobe or the tone or the mean look or ..........



Already seeing liberal dem toads and gay libertines busy spamming the internet with Hilda Youtubesfault Clinton can't lose because she for liberation. Legalized freedom! statism. No mention Hilda is a radical progressive world governance anti gun leftist. unfit for high office. or dog catcher
 



I stand with Ted and Rand

9/28/2013 5:31:18 AM EDT
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The whole issue has been created by government interference where it should not be.
Gays only want "marriage" to get the benefits which come with the "official" government sanction of the act.
Had government not been handing out benefits, then they would have no interest in infringing on the word.
But, then it became personal, now too many are interested in pushing it into the face of the religious crowd that tried to keep them from getting said benefits in the first place.
Another disaster created by government.
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Exactly, the whole lack of separation of church and state on this one pisses me off.  Flip the shit so they are all civil unions in the fed & states eyes, then if same sex couple want to get "married" they have find a sect of religion that aligns with their world views and will perform the ceremony.  In addition the government CAN NOT tell religious institutions that hey MUST marry same sex couples its non of the .govs fucking business.
9/28/2013 5:36:39 AM EDT
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While the description of gay sex may have been crass, i think YOU may have a better understanding of how it works than he does.





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All you have done this post is tell everyone how wrong they are. Do you have anything you want to share?



While the description of gay sex may have been crass, i think YOU may have a better understanding of how it works than he does.









 
9/28/2013 5:41:38 AM EDT
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I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.


I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
slavery to marriage comparison=LOL

in the history of civilisation marriage has always been between man and woman, its a cornerstone.


First, wrong.

Second, just because something is old doesn't mean it's good, right, or the only way. Surely you wouldn't fall victim to being illogical like that, would you?
9/28/2013 5:48:31 AM EDT
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.
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I see your point.....traditional values are important. I guess it's just a matter of what time frame you set your perspective.  Until recently I also held traditional beliefs from the 1600's.....what changed my mind is when I went over to Downtown St.Pete....south central....a bit north of Gulf Port and tried to buy some slaves. Those folks got so damn mad at me when I asked where the slave market was!  After that I realized that maybe what I called traditional values might have to change a bit.  But maybe you're right.....I'll have to try and buy some slaves again today. Maybe I'll meet some traditional Blacks who don't mind being slaves.


I see you are one of the tolerant ones, if we don't agree with you ,you ridicule.
slavery to marriage comparison=LOL

in the history of civilisation marriage has always been between man and woman, its a cornerstone.


I'm not sure exactly what you "see" as I never compared slavey to marriage (though there is some irony there.... )

What I used was a loose and satirical example of traditional values and how they evolve throughout history, over time. Here's a link to a paper that explores gay marriage throughout history (caveat...the author is pro gay) A histiry of same sex marriage

Another...Same sex unions throughout time….

etc...etc...

A couple of things....I'm sure that you can also find studies that "prove" the opposite and that's good as it'll drive intelligent discussion.  The other caveat is that I would recommend checking sources on the links that I provided because more often than not many of these documents provide a pro-gay slant which is exactly my point.....

Which is....Gay people have been, over time, driven into this vile leftist camp of politics. Hence we often see radical gays willing to lie or obfuscate the truth to achieve their agenda. This is based partly on the perception that they won't be treated fairly by the established the socio-cultural norms.

I believe that a fair and objective study of human history through an anthropological and sociological lens will show that Gay unions are not as much as an anomaly as traditional family values people will have us believe. They're also not as common as radical gay leftist will have us believe either.....but there are good examples throughout history that can't be ignored.

The fact is that most gays are good Americans and their votes have been almost wholly given to the left.  Like I said, I have no issue with 2 adults who are in love and want to marry. An argument can be made for allowing children in the equation but I have seen first hand that a loving household will triumph.

I want people to be in love and happy. I wish that on everyone.....well, almost everyone...    I also want their votes to help stop this Marxist march of insanity.
9/28/2013 5:49:50 AM EDT
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When can a man have sex with his dog and not get punished for it?

That's what I want to know.
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You worried about your dog telling?